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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Silverias said:
And Hitler saves the day!
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He's not really Hitler though.

He's merely his genetic twin, and you have to account for epigenetic drift creating slight changes in his DNA as he ages.

Schreiber may have Hitler's genentic propensity to paranoia, borderline personality disorder and IBS but given their different diets, upbringings and other sociological factors creates a person who does resemble Hitler a great deal, but is otherwise his own individual.

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What do you mean I missed the point?
 
mrttao said:
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I think the point is, we shouldn't take it too casually or too literally when assuming what it will or won't block. The metaphysical magical concept of lightning is not the same entity as the scientific force of electricity, and it's up to the casting mage to determine the right spellwork to produce the proper effect. And maybe you have to care how Zeus feels about it today.
 
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Nice. No better way to have a clone prove he's not his progenitor than have him get some Green Text denying said progenitor and all his works. I also liked the thematics of him using the Spear of Destiny. I wouldn't be surprised if he's got some sort of mystic attachment or thematic link to it, given the whole Hitler thing.
 
So... 1 clone viable out of 94. Is it because of the faulty cloning tech or because Hitler is special? I rather suspect the latter. And, if so... Well, Superhero Hitler with the Spear of Destiny... That might actually be quite a force.
 
rkyeun said:
I think the point is, we shouldn't take it too casually or too literally when assuming what it will or won't block. The metaphysical magical concept of lightning is not the same entity as the scientific force of electricity, and it's up to the casting mage to determine the right spellwork to produce the proper effect. And maybe you have to care how Zeus feels about it today.
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sure, but that largely depends on just how the spelleater works. does it eliminates all magic?
it doesn't seem selective, and cannot allow anything beneficial which indicates the answer is yes
but it doesn't eat the soul of the wearer, which indicates no.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"Witch! Bastard Nazi!" Mister Schreiber pulls the Spear free and stabs Wolf again and again. As I watch, whatever spells held his aging carcass together all this time fail. He doesn't decay completely, but he does take on the appearance of someone slightly mummified, like a climber who died too far up for bacteria to live and who was then dried out by the elements. Mister Schreiber then staggers back, breathing hard, Spear held inexpertly in a two handed grip. "Try taking my soul now!"
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He gets to keep the spear, right?
So does that make him a super hero now?
 
Yog said:
So... 1 clone viable out of 94. Is it because of the faulty cloning tech or because Hitler is special? I rather suspect the latter.
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It was the seventies, and he had to work in absolute secrecy. And with a sort of primitive arcanotechnology exowomb.
Vaermina said:
It's very possibly the most powerful magical weapon in existence.
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Full explanation for what it does Sunday. It isn't so much a weapon as a tool, really.
 
Silverias said:
And Hitler saves the day!
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Clitler, actually.
Silverias said:
I wonder if OL will offer to give Discount Hitler a genetic alteration
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Why would he? He's not Hitler.
mrttao said:
He gets to keep the spear, right?
So does that make him a super hero now?
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As a seemingly devout man, he'd probably give it to the Church. And that's assuming OL tells him what it is instead of going "I'm going to have to take this in. It's evidence." Followed shortly by Nabu feeling a cold shiver up his helmet.
 
gourdcaptain said:
That's an argument that would make sense in most settings. Here? Schizo-tech's a thing, supervillains built artificially intelligent robots in the 30's, that kind of failure rate is still something I can laugh at. :p
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yes but in this case the supervillains in question wasn't a mad genius inventor, it was a wizard and a flying brick. IF they had used purely mystical means, he may have had a better success rate, but he opted for the technological route, which was outside his specialty.
 
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