Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)

[Red Bovine]

She does have issues with selling tech to anyone but humans. Otherwise she'd sell more than the arc reactors to them. Which as far as I know she still sells at the original prices and amount set by the Council.

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I will once again say not really, I mean we did try to sell the repulsors to Citadel space with the only reason that not going through being because SA didn't allow it. In fact we have sold other pieces of tech like the stuff we are selling to the Hanar and the VI that we sold to that race that's helping us with our biotech. I also recall us selling stuff like modular housing as well. It just seems like we don't sell much tech to aliens because a lot of our stuff are weapons tech that is high level. There is a reason I suggested making new tech besides weapons to sell to the other races.

Well obviously. But I thought you were referring to Citadel species.
How would the Batarians and what not get access to blueprints to repulsors and arc reactors?

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They likely reverse engineered some of our very first arc reactors that had low level black boxing. Sovereign may or may not have helped them there.

 

[tri2]

I will once again say not really, I mean we did try to sell the repulsors to Citadel space with the only reason that not going through being because SA didn't allow it. In fact we have sold other pieces of tech like the stuff we are selling to the Hanar and the VI that we sold to that race that's helping us with our biotech. I also recall us selling stuff like modular housing as well. It just seems like we don't sell much tech to aliens because a lot of our stuff are weapons tech that is high level. There is a reason I suggested making new tech besides weapons to sell to the other races.

They likely reverse engineered some of our very first arc reactors that had low level black boxing. Sovereign may or may not have helped them there.

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doccer is referring to the patent datas i think. how would the batarian steal those.

 

[Doccer]

doccer is referring to the patent datas i think. how would the batarian steal those.

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Correct. With how much if a pariah the Batarians are in Citadel space it seems unlikely they would have been first served amoung the measly 250000 Arc reactors sold every quarter. The Big 3 likely pulled strings to get the loin's share. I would imagine that the Volus used their merchant savy to get the rest.
And I have doubts they'd let non-Citadel species get access to too much life altering tech. Especially stuff that isn't old hat for them.

In fact we have sold other pieces of tech like the stuff we are selling to the Hanar and the VI that we sold to that race that's helping us with our biotech. I also recall us selling stuff like modular housing as well.

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I mentioned the Hanar.
I meant weapons and military gear type of things. So I didn't think about that other stuff. That stuff seems fairly low techish and humanitarian compared to the big goodies we got.

 

[newwriter]

She does have issues with selling tech to anyone but humans. Otherwise she'd sell more than the arc reactors to them. Which as far as I know she still sells at the original prices and amount set by the Council. The Hangar are just because it's against these galaxy enders. Which I can see her obsessing about like Tony did after seeing Wanda's visions.

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Revy really doesn't have any issues selling her tech to the Citadel species. She does favor the Systems Alliance over any other client. She will adhere to the SA's judgment and respect their wishes because Revy is a genuine patriot. She personally wants the Systems Alliance to succeed and prosper which is why she frequently goes out of her way to make sure the Systems Alliance Military gets the tools and resources to protect Humanity and their colonies. It is why she builds and provides new defense systems for SA colonies free of charge. And why her Private Military company is protecting human colonies. And why she seeks to increase her ties with the Systems Alliance rather than with any other government or go independant or multinational.

If Revy was a Turian, then she would do the exact same thing for the Turian Hierarchy. This is the in-canon reason why Turians have a fond opinion of PI as it's only flaw is that it isn't a turian company.

if the Systems Alliance decides to let the reins off Revy and let her sell any type of weapon to the rest of the Galaxy. She will do so. She has repeatedly asked the SA to let her sell repulsers to the Citadel species, but stopped due to resistance from the SA board. She is not unwilling to sell to Aliens, Revy simply has a strong preference for the SA, thus gives the SA preferential treatment.

 

[Red Bovine]

doccer is referring to the patent datas i think. how would the batarian steal those.

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Oh, in that case @Doccer It is more meant to stop people from selling our stuff illegally in CItadel space but it doesn't stop criminals or enemies from doing so. That said they'd still need to reverse engineer out stuff.

On the topic of melding just a few posts back anyone imagine that if an Asari tried to forcefully do it to Revy it might not end well? I mean in canon we see with the Prothean beacon that downloading too much information at once can be outright fatal to people and Liara herself noted that Shepard survived only due to their insane willpower and that anyone else would have died. Seeing as it seems like Revy's unique mind would have as much information as such a Beacon I can't help but picture an Asari trying to steal such information from Revy's mind only to either die from the mental overload, be reduced to a vegetable or suffer brain damage. Doubt it would happen but is funny to think about.

 

[tri2]

Oh, in that case @Doccer It is more meant to stop people from selling our stuff illegally in CItadel space but it doesn't stop criminals or enemies from doing so. That said they'd still need to reverse engineer out stuff.

On the topic of melding just a few posts back anyone imagine that if an Asari tried to forcefully do it to Revy it might not end well? I mean in canon we see with the Prothean beacon that downloading too much information at once can be outright fatal to people and Liara herself noted that Shepard survived only due to their insane willpower and that anyone else would have died. Seeing as it seems like Revy's unique mind would have as much information as such a Beacon I can't help but picture an Asari trying to steal such information from Revy's mind only to either die from the mental overload, be reduced to a vegetable or suffer brain damage. Doubt it would happen but is funny to think about.

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Asari that attempts to mind rip Shepard: Oh My GODDESS! IT'S FULL OF DATA!
Shepard: Thanks I like to think a lot, your brain looks pretty empty though. Think I am gonna have to say no to that coffee.

 

[DXCS]

[X] Yes, donate the planetary defenses
[X] Yes, sell UV lasers to customers
[X] Keep Cortana name
[X] Default Halo Cortana

 

[lbmaian]

I thought Asari mind melds required the consent of the target, with the exception of Ardat-Yakshi? Anyway, our greatest info security risk is social engineering attacks, rather than direct (bio)hacking - Asari may have a leg up on that, but others are capable of such attacks.

right yes, so no IC reason to use the brain shield when handling any reaper/batarian tech, will have a event roll to see if noticed or something or someone get indoctrinated if it ever gets to that point.

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So, from both this and the way Mordin described the brain shield research, it sounds like we need to wait for an indoctrination incident that we happen to detect, before we can actually research reversing said indoctrination.

Still though, if we can miniaturize brain shields and make them cheap enough, it would be easier to justify using them everywhere "just in case". A brain shield mk3 that can provide that, even without the ability to reverse indoctrination, would be a very appreciated research option.

Tier 0 Turians: 62
Tier 1 Asari: 32
Tier 2 Salarians:16
Tier 3 Volus/Humans: 8
Tier 4 Hanar: 4
Tier 5 Elcor: 2
Tier 6 None: 1

Humans and Hanar used to be Tier 6, then they both economically grew hard.

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Hanar probably aren't too happy with this since they're aiming for 7 dreadnoughts. I wonder what happens if they "rank up" - would that leave tier 4 empty or would the Elcor fill it?

Heat management is a major issue in combat:

Given that is with droplet heat sinks providing a 10x to 100x increase over radiator strips and we are talking about dropping to zero radiation it could actually be a serious problem. I say zero because any heat radiated would hit the inner wall of the TIR shield and bounce back into the ship which effectively cancels out any thermal radiation.

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Then thermal compensators would synergize very well with TIR shields. Without them, TIR shields will have to be used similar to kinetic barriers - activating only when threat is detected. Depending on how quickly TIR shields can be activated, how quickly the EM threat can be recognized (FTL sensor setup helps here), and how much damage said threat can deal while TIR shield is not yet activated, this may not be practical.

So to truly take advantage of TIR, we need to not only research TIR (stealth + EM shield) but also gravitational wave detectors (negate TIR blindness) and thermal compensators (sustained TIR). Somewhat ironically, high powered lasers - anything that uses shitload of power really - would also greatly benefit from thermal compensators.

Not saying that these should be our highest priority research, but it's pretty high up there, especially if we start catching wind of enemy advancements, whether stolen/reverse-engineered, in high power laser-related tech.

 

[tri2]

Hanar probably aren't too happy with this since they're aiming for 7 dreadnoughts. I wonder what happens if they "rank up" - would that leave tier 4 empty or would the Elcor fill it?

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would leave it empty, this is made in consideration of any future species they integrate

 

[Darkcrest]

[X] Yes, donate the planetary defenses
[X] Yes, sell UV lasers to customers
[X] Keep Cortana name
[X] Default Halo Cortana

 

[Dark as Silver]

From what I remember the TIR was proposed as a stealth system. The guy who put it up originally went into a lot of technical discussions about how the physics of it would work. What I took away from it in layman speech was that the system accumulated all forms of radiant energy which over time would cook what was inside of it but for a time it would basically be optical stealth in space.

Edit: TIR - Total Internal Reflection - from what I remember it was a specially configured ME shield system which warped space so that radiant energy would be trapped within it. Light could come in but light from inside would be reflected. It would have allowed for stealth but caused an accumulation of radiant energy.

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We should be able to create and chose the nature of the shield and which way its reflecting light though surely, just flip the signs on the mass effect fields, and now you're reflecting everything out rather than in.
I guess I misremembered that the boundary was reflective both ways?

 

[tri2]

Front page has been updated to what you will see at the beginning of Turn 22, and man that construction time reduction really did a doozy.

edit: building limits updated

 

[Tazered]

We should be able to create and chose the nature of the shield and which way its reflecting light though surely, just flip the signs on the mass effect fields, and now you're reflecting everything out rather than in.
I guess I misremembered that the boundary was reflective both ways?

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The guy who wrote it seemed to have been intending to write a physics thesis on the plausibility of ME tech ( Posted links to a few pages of it, might have been a joke or at least I think it was a joke). Now remember this was back in SQ Mk I or II, it was supposed to be based on the physics of light at the event horizon of a rotating blackhole or something, much of it was hard physics that went over my head and in waaay too much technical detail for a typical quest. Which is ironically, why I even remember it.

You can go take a look if you like but the details I remember was: fancy space bubble allows stealth via trapping light inside by reflecting every thing off the inner surface (not actually a surface). The bit about the laser defense was because while the TIR would let in some light which would also be trapped, it would also distort the path of the rest around it the way massive objects do. End result was too much energy being collected if left on for too long, shooting it would have made it worse because that was adding energy to the system.

This was after the GM at the time ruled no tech from other fiction but stuff from Iron Man*, the real world or ME was allowed. So of course a nerd working on his physics PhD would jump in...

*(specifically the sane-ish science stuff Tony Stark made which we had to work for... finally at Mark II? This was originally female Iron Man Punches the Reapers in the face quest, the players turned into a Tony Stark business simulator)

 

[Dark as Silver]

The guy who wrote it seemed to have been intending to write a physics thesis on the plausibility of ME tech ( Posted links to a few pages of it, might have been a joke or at least I think it was a joke). Now remember this was back in SQ Mk I or II, it was supposed to be based on the physics of light at the event horizon of a rotating blackhole or something, much of it was hard physics that went over my head and in waaay to much technical detail for a typical quest. Which is ironically, why I even remember it.

You can go take a look if you like but the details I remember was: fancy space bubble allows stealth via trapping light inside by reflecting every thing off the inner surface (not actually a surface). The bit about the laser defense was because while the TIR would let in some light which would also be trapped, it would also distort the path of the rest around it the way massive objects do. End result was too much energy being collected if left on for too long, shooting it would have made it worse because that was adding energy to the system.

This was after the GM at the time ruled no tech from other fiction but stuff from Iron Man (specifically the sane-ish science stuff Tony Stark made which we had to work for finally at Mark II? This was originally female Iron Man Punches the Reapers in the face quest, the players turned into a Tony Stark business simulator), the real world or ME was allowed. So of course a nerd working on his physics PhD would jump in...

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I don't know if we're making progress discussing things neither of ourselves are fully confident we remember in its entirety

 

[dbRevned]

Btw, On the tech tree on the front page it says the 5 meter mech isn't researched yet, But we did it last turn (Its on page 43 of this thread).

I personally dont care about having a mech but since we spent 400 research on it I would like it marked as done please.

 

[KhazintheDark]

What's the point in hiring a architect that spent 3-5 years studying the stuff

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Seven years and accreditation. We can download physical skills but a knowledge base is far harder to copy through mimicry. Especially at the bleeding edge of research.

 

[LollipoPReapeR]

Seven years and accreditation. We can download physical skills but a knowledge base is far harder to copy through mimicry. Especially at the bleeding edge of research.

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Yup, skills are there, but the equivalent of muscle memory isn't. Neither is the creativity that's needed to actually prosper.

 

[lbmaian]

You can go take a look if you like but the details I remember was: fancy space bubble allows stealth via trapping light inside by reflecting every thing off the inner surface (not actually a surface). The bit about the laser defense was because while the TIR would let in some light which would also be trapped, it would also distort the path of the rest around it the way massive objects do. End result was too much energy being collected if left on for too long, shooting it would have made it worse because that was adding energy to the system.

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I also vaguely recall that the weakness of TIR shields is that they can't refract light that's normal (geometry) to shield, and that this is solvable by layering TIR shields such that light that is normal to one of the shields is never normal to at least one of the other shields. Light that breaches the outer shield would be trapped between the shields, protecting the ship itself albeit resulting in the loss of some stealth (if not due to escaping refracted light, then due the lack of some light reaching the other side of ship). That trapped light can be released by shifting the TIR shields to let it escape, ideally in the same direction the light was originally traveling.

Hah, I also recall discussion about in-universe physics preventing feasible FTL weapons (preventing the "teleport nuke to target" tactic), related to discussion of FTL sensors.

 

[SCO]

Yup, skills are there, but the equivalent of muscle memory isn't. Neither is the creativity that's needed to actually prosper.

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This is a fallacy of 'specialness'. You think the average employer wants creativity, 'bleeding edge' research or the 'equivalent of muscle memory'? And the fact the vast vast majority wouldn't care would have all the effect necessary to snowball this into catastrophic results for the 'skilled employed' class.

The example of the 'bum off the bar' was hyperbole, but i absolutely think this would simply collapse every kind of 'proletariat' and thus eventually collapse capitalism, because of simple lack of capital not tied into absolute needs in the vast majority of replacable cogs - if they can even get it that is - into whatever form of dictatorship or communal sharing i don't know and i don't care for this digression.

 

[UberJJK]

I thought patents kept us being the only makers and sellers? If not then why haven't I heard of the Citadel making their own? Why have the Prothean knockoff Arc Reactors been built? And what is to stop them from figuring out the repulsors anyway? And don't say it's the black boxing. That was alot weaker when we sold the first few hundred thousands. They most certainly have been working on reverse engineering those alliance the beginning.

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Currently Paragon Industries products fall into three categories:

1. Internal - There are no patents on these because they are for internal use only if they are produced at all. This is stuff like the Mk3
2. "Secret" Military Patent - This is for restricted products we sell to the Alliance like Repulsors or the Gladius. They are patented so no one is allowed to produce copies without permission but the details of the patent are secret to limit reverse engineering.
3. Citadel Patents - These are goods we sell on the open Citadel market like Arc Reactors. Theoretically these should include a full set of instructions on how to make them, since that is how you check for copies, but in practice we, like most major companies IRL, just patent key components to hinder reverse engineering.

For the security of our Black Boxing here are the descriptions for the various tiers:

1. []Basic Black boxing/FRM (100) Setting up your technology such that it cannot be easily reverse engineered is basic common sense, but it will take some work. At this level your defenses are not insurmountable to the most skilled Engineers, but they will pose a difficulty, and make reverse engineering your technology a much more trying endeavor.
2. []Improved Black boxing/FRM (400) At this level your technology is virtually impervious to corporate reverse engineering attempts. Intelligence agencies and other similar organizations may have more success, but even then it will require a great deal of time and effort on their part to discover your secrets.
3. [ ] Advanced Black boxing/FRM (800): Knowledge is power, guard it well. You have taken this old saying to heart, and even moderately sized intelligence agencies would have to devote non-trivial amounts of resources in order to crack your tech. The amateurs who call themselves your competitors wouldn't stand a chance of retrofitting it before you'd already made it obsolete.
4. [ ] Flawless black boxing/FRM [3200]: By riddling your technology with superfluous wiring and casing, adding minute self-destructive devises, and shielding it all from all known forms of non-intrusive tomography, you have been able to keep your rivals (and most governments) guessing as to how it is your devices work. Now, you start getting serious about secrecy. (Makes reverse engineering your technology practically impossible to any of the Citadel species.)

Advanced Black Boxing honestly sounds like a step backwards from Improved Black Boxing but I'm going to be generous and assume by "moderate" they mean the Asari, Salarian, and Turian intelligence agencies.

As far as I can tell by the time we started selling goods in any serious number (Mass Production) we had already completed Improved Black Boxing. So even then reverse engineering our goods was already a nation state level challenge. We didn't actually start selling on the more vulnerable Citadel market (at least for Arc Reactors) until 7 April 2171 at which point they were already secured under Advanced Black Boxing.


As for the "knock-offs"; they are entirely original. The Asari started datamining their Beacon for an Arc-Reactor competitor waaay back and actually ended up failing. Instead their knock-off:

Tento Ra Iy interview with Sana Vand
"So how does you new power generator compare with the arc-reactor produced by Paragon Industries?" The interviewer asks a young Asari.

The Asari, Sana Vand, responds, "While the arc-reactor is great for large-scale or high power needs we're hoping to provide a cheaper power source for small lower power systems. Arc-reactors are rather expensive for civilian use and our new DESC cells provide reliable long-term power at a lower price."

"Goddess, Gilla will be insufferable," Benezia said turning off the holoscreen on her desk, "'Hey look, I'm the Matriach funding the company that is providing the humans some competition.' Maybe I should take a vacation so I don't have to listen to her."

"Woman doesn't even know about the Beacon. Useless as it is right now. Crazy girl claims she figured it out by looking at the data Liara got from PI. Then again Shepard claims that she just "figured out" the arc-reactor, no Prothean tech or data involved; maybe we're beginning to surpass them? For all we know the rest of the Beacon contains a million and one stir-fry recipes"

Benezia smiles "I should at least send Liara congratulations. She's come far."

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is instead it is a knock-off of the Prothean power generators we reverse engineered and discarded:

[X] Liara's Prothean Artifact [100]: 0d10 + 50 (Well, if it ain't broke . . .) + 50 (The Accipter) (100%)
100/100 Finished! Pooled RP-100=100

You sit back in your chair staring off into space. Before you is a holoscreen showing a pair of exploded mechanical schematics.

"Hey Revy!..." Conrad says as he walks though the do, the diagrams on the holoscreen distracting him almost immediately.

"Hey, Conrad. Great, look at those two diagrams, tell me what you see." You say.

"Well the one on the right... that's an exploded diagram of an arc-reactor. On the left..." he pauses looking at the diagram on the left for a few moments. Then he begins looking between the two diagrams.

"Okay I don't know what the one on the left is. But that," he points to part of the leftmost diagram, "Is an accumulator chamber, much like that," he says pointing to part of the arc-reactor diagram, "Or at least it looks like it might be. So the entire thing is probably a generator?"

"I came to the same conclusions. That components design is too much like parts of the arc-reactor for it to be chance." You say.

Conrad grins, "What is it?"

"As far as I can tell its the power core of a Prothean device Liara asked me to look at."

"So Protheans used arc-reactors?"

"No," you shake you head, "They may have used something vaguely similar, they apply similar bits of physics. About the same as comparing a steam engine to an internal combustion engine, both use expaning gasses. However, the systems uses eezo and dark energy is not helpful for arc-reactor operation. Somewhat detrimental over some power levels. Which to me says that this power core would never work as well as an arc-reactor. I'm not really sure how it works exactly, I have a few wild hypotheses."

"So, arc-reactors are better than what the Protheans used?"

"Pretty much." You say with a satisfied grin. "As far as I can tell the generator design is a curiosity at best in the face of what the arc-reactor can do."

"Of course the best part is this," You say, causing pats of the diagram to collapse. "As you can see the accumulator chamber is fairly close to the surface and the material used in that part is semi-transparent to x-rays. Part of what allowed the scans to get such a good picture. I'd bet that bombarding the accumulator with x-rays would jump-start it."

"But that wouldn't be enough to make it work would it to get any power you'd need other systems to work. Right?"

"Ah, but you see," you alter the diagram more putting the wires back where they belong, "The wiring for some odd reason forms circular pattern right around the accumulator. Wires that have no reason to pass though the area."

"Induction!" Conrad exclaims, "You could make a fairly small tool that would restart the generator. It's nicely set up to do that."

"That was my hypothesis. Mind we still need to find the right wavelengths, voltages and the like but I think that can be done."

You can now turn on some deactivated Prothean artifacts.

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Notice how the source is "looking at the data Liara got from PI" and it occurred the very turn after we completed the above project and worked out how the Protheans powered their stuff. So yeah; it seems like we sent this data to Liara, because it would be helpful with activating Prothean artifacts, and Gila took it and started selling it. We just didn't care because it was blatantly inferior.

 

[KhazintheDark]

This is a fallacy of 'specialness'. You think the average employer wants creativity, 'bleeding edge' research

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We're one of the bleeding edge research corporations. Plug and play doesn't solve our workforce problem and will take years for even a minimum level of adoption since it would need to go through safety regulation hell because it is unproven tech. We know it works but it would take at least a decade to be greenlit by the alliance for use as even a tuition tool let alone industrial applications.

 

[Dark as Silver]

We're one of the bleeding edge research corporations. Plug and play doesn't solve our workforce problem and will take years for even a minimum level of adoption since it would need to go through safety regulation hell because it is unproven tech. We know it works but it would take at least a decade to be greenlit by the alliance for use as even a tuition tool let alone industrial applications.

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Just to backtrack. SCO wasn't talking about PI's hiring habits unless they think that PI hires everyone in the Alliances middle class.

 

[SCO]

We're one of the bleeding edge research corporations. Plug and play doesn't solve our workforce problem and will take years for even a minimum level of adoption since it would need to go through safety regulation hell because it is unproven tech. We know it works but it would take at least a decade to be greenlit by the alliance for use as even a tuition tool let alone industrial applications.

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I'm not saying anything about revy's company. It's not harmful to her or 'generally' yet because she can keep it 'in house' for unskilled workers that she needs to get skilled in a few days without having to move the company or import mass quantities of qualified labor which doesn't exist in the colonies. Will it affect salaries of PI? Only if Revy wants, which she probably doesn't (maybe a bit if you consider 'attracting qualified workers' to the colonies would require salary bumps).

It's when that technology inevitably spreads that the shit hits the fan.

BTW this was the exact backstory/technology of a duology of classic science fiction books, including the term 'tape', the Cyteen books. Though there the 'tape' was limited to lines of cloned workers because it couldn't generally be used by the population (to company slavery effects ofc) and it brainwashed wonderfully too (it was so good at fomenting loyalty, they used it on the executives themselves - they were the second generation and clones of the company founders).

In the backstory, it started similarly - a corporatist meritocratic colony suddenly at war with the inner worlds needed skilled population for the war, and fast.

 

[cageorks]

it has been awile but what was chats thought on hiring quarian on pilgrimage? and what the blow back for hiring a lot of them to work on our shipyards and factories?

only asking because next turn l really want to spend some money on a migration campaign and the workers that could fill areas intill we educated our new generation. plus l want some that relationship boost to go above 50 same with volous

 

[Doccer]

I've had a thought.
When technology advances enough that the tank's folding tech as Origami Tech and sell droppable Prefab Origami buildings that allow the owners to alter the physical shape as easily as changing your phones wallpaper. That'd be a high end commodity.

@newwriter
What are we argueing about? You tell me that she doesn't have any problems selling her hardware to aliens then list her reasons for why she is not selling to aliens. All of which I agree with. Potato poetahtoe?
Personally I see her priorities as Mindoir first humanity first. (Earth second but we don't need to let Terra Firma know that).

Can we give discounts to people who shoot at Hegemony ships and batarian 'pirates'?

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Yes! Let's put up bounties!

i really think that we should keep this for the Alliance only for now as the other races are not helping the humans with the war, so no need to reward them with this high end tech

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Agreed. Let's donate a pair for Admiral Hackett and whoever he needs to talk to for when he leads the strike into enemy territory.

@UberJJK
Thanks for clarifying all that but that argument you quoted me on was to this:

As of yet? No, as that would basically allow Citadel to produce Repulsors and the SA do not want repulsors getting out yet.

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Is the Citadel Council allowed to make our shit when we patent it?
My understanding was that the Citadel could only lay claim to our shit if we failed to produce the amount they said we have to at the price they've set and fail to sell that amount.
Speaking of which why did they undo those restrictions and give Revy free reign?
And I am aware of the inferior Prothean knockoffs that the Asari made. That's why I asked why the Prothean knockoffs have been made. If they could just take our patent to make Arc Reactors then the knockoffs wouldn't be required as they are clearly inferior.