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Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)

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The targeting to your hud is the only thing I see as valuable. But even then only as for hip firing or having your gun remotely fire when an enemy walks into the cross hairs.
Everything else really should have been checked and double checked before the gun was ever taken into the battle field. All eezo and blocks and whatever else that needs to be refilled should have been filled. And those things are already solved by Halo. Just put a screen just in the back of the gun underneath the sights to display ammo lvls and all the stuff you need to know moment to moment.
If the gun is so buggy that you need to constantly keep an eye on it then it needs replacement.
If the wifi needs to stay constantly open then it should be so short range that you need to hold it for it to connect that Omnitool on your wrist.
@Red Bovine
She did but it was never specified what. So I can only assume it was an overall improvement rather than anything specific. Only the hardsuits were specifically mentioned to be basically a stripped down Legionary.
I get that most soldiers are gonna be Soldiers, rather than Engineers but it feels like it would be a easy 50 research to save lives in critical moments. Also if I could I'd go to my Engineer friends/comrades to get a copy of their Overload and Sabotage programs and whatnot. I'd imagine that they'd simplify those programs down to taping the Icon then target select to make them work I'm a life or death fight.
There were also enemies with tech abilities.

I'm talking about the Alliance as I assume our people get the improvements by default.

I'm actually for increaseing our ParSec's recruiting efforts by several magnitudes most as I see spreading our people over more and more planets as spreading too thin and like to make a strike against Batarian supply lines. Failing that more titans to 'double' them.
 
Doccer said:
The targeting to your hud is the only thing I see as valuable. But even then only as for hip firing or having your gun remotely fire when an enemy walks into the cross hairs.
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Also useful if, say, you're wearing a helmet which makes it hard to get your eye lined up with the scope, or if your suit has better sensors than the gun does (nightvision, etc.).

Doccer said:
Everything else really should have been checked and double checked before the gun was ever taken into the battle field. All eezo and blocks and whatever else that needs to be refilled should have been filled. And those things are already solved by Halo. Just put a screen just in the back of the gun underneath the sights to display ammo lvls and all the stuff you need to know moment to moment.
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Yes, the gun should be ready before you start. It won't stay that way. You need to monitor heat buildup (if it's an ME1 gun) or heatsink capacity (for ME2 guns). You need to be informed of ammo levels, power supply, and any jams or mechanical problems (none of which are a problem in the games, but this isn't a computer game where those things are totally abstracted away). All of these things will be indicated on the gun itself somewhere, but it's a hell of a lot more convenient to have all that information in one place.

Doccer said:
If the gun is so buggy that you need to constantly keep an eye on it then it needs replacement.
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Who said anything about bugs? The primary value here is in viewing consumables and being able to adjust configurations. Fighting guys in street clothes? You want to turn down the power so you don't over-penetrate. Fighting guys in heavy plate? Max power to cut through. Fighting a mix of both? Gee, sure would be nice if your gun could be automatically toggled between the two depending on who you have targeted at the moment...

(Yes, there will sometimes be problems with the weapon itself, because it is a complex mechanical device being subjected to violent and unpredictable conditions. That doesn't make it 'buggy', just fallible. But it would be nice to have it reported in your HUD when it happens!)

Doccer said:
If the wifi needs to stay constantly open then it should be so short range that you need to hold it for it to connect that Omnitool on your wrist.
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There's no surefire way to limit the range. When you're designing the transceiver, you can assume that the suit your talking to is close... but you also have to assume that its using a cheap, low-power, omnidirectional antenna while the enemy tries to jam it. But to be sure the enemy cannot connect, you can assume they're far away... but you also have to assume they're using a custom-made, high-power, directional antenna under clear broadcasting conditions. There's simply no way to do both at once; if its strong enough to reliably connect to a suit 1m away, it's strong enough to be potentially hacked into from across the room by an enemy engineer with a directional antenna.
 
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So, it seems like the issue of ME guns being hackable originates from them needing to have a wireless connection to a suit which is very much a separate item from a different manufacturer. But if you could just sell a suit which comes with fully integrated weaponry, and then put a few goodies on top so everyone wants to buy it, you'd have guns that can't be hacked because they are plugged in directly by design.

I'm not saying the problem is already fixed... But it's already fixed, there is no reason for the weapons we sell for our suits to not have a wire connection. The suit would still have its own wireless ports so people can use other guns if they want but if they don't want to be hacked they can just buy the good stuff we make, which plugs in.
 
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065tdsa said:
So, it seems like the issue of ME guns being hackable originates from them needing to have a wireless connection to a suit which is very much a separate item from a different manufacturer. But if you could just sell a suit which comes with fully integrated weaponry, and then put a few goodies on top so everyone wants to buy it, you'd have guns that can't be hacked because they are plugged in directly by design.

I'm not saying the problem is already fixed... But it's already fixed, there is no reason for the weapons we sell for our suits to not have a wire connection. The suit would still have its own wireless ports so people can use other guns if they want but if they don't want to be hacked they can just buy the good stuff we make, which plugs in.
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Yeah for Legionarys. I'm talking about the upscale hardsuits and weapons we just sold the Alliance.
 
065tdsa said:
So, it seems like the issue of ME guns being hackable originates from them needing to have a wireless connection to a suit which is very much a separate item from a different manufacturer.
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That's my theory, yes.

065tdsa said:
But if you could just sell a suit which comes with fully integrated weaponry, and then put a few goodies on top so everyone wants to buy it, you'd have guns that can't be hacked because they are plugged in directly by design.
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For Legionary suits, yes, but we also produce hardsuits which don't have integrated weapons.
 
plus wouldn't make sense for Revy to upgrade the suit only to make it incompatible with 99% of the rest of the galaxies equipment.
 
tri2 said:
plus wouldn't make sense for Revy to upgrade the suit only to make it incompatible with 99% of the rest of the galaxies equipment.
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If we make an optional physically connected guns with our suits/Omnitools, that'll encourage customers to buy our PI brand gear when they have options that work with other PI gear the best.
 
Not sure if it still counts for this quest but I do recall that one of the perks of the Mk2 armor was that it would be possible to create models for aliens that have different body types from humans. Also that the Mk2 being more flexible makes it work with biotics with next to no issues IIRC. Meaning that this may be really good to have if we get alien employees we can trust to use them.

On the topic of hiring alien help really hoping we can get Wrex as an employee. He should be free at this time and would love to see him have interactions with teenage Jack. Especially if we can get him as a trainer/minder for Jack which seems like it would be really fun.
 
That is a thought. We do have the Hyper modularity in effect. And I like the get Wrex thru highering a Battlemaster. And that Social Worker did say she'd likely get along with Krogan parents too.
Let's do it. Next turn let's search up some Krogan Battlemasters and get Wrex. Via him we can try to help Jack and build him up till he's ready to retake his homeworld as leader!
Furthermore this will give us a path to hirimg (small sized) mercenary groups to help fill out the ParSec and share their experience!
 
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UberJJK said:
Something worth discussing is the potential of up-skilling our researchers. While the mechanics haven't actually been explained yet (@tri2) it pretty clearly seems to be indended that we can spend RP on leveling them up (IE: them studying) rather then researching projects.
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How did rank leveling through research work in the old system? (Or still work in the current system?)
 
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  • Apocrypha
    • Loyal Subordinate or Double Agent?

    Illyria, the capitol of Elysium,     2174

    Andrew Nicholas, Commander of Paragon Security, smiled as he surveyed the aftermath of the battle with the latest group of Batarian Raiders.

    "No", Andrew thought to himself, "not a battle, A Slaughter,"

    A battle would have insinuated that this latest batch of alien scum had any chance of victory. Due to PI's excellent relationship with the Systems Alliance and its ongoing contract to guard the Colonies. SA intelligence was more than happy to provide ParSec with detailed intelligence on Batarian Pirate Activity within the Skyllian Verge. This intelligence normally would have to have gone through the Alliance Bureaucracy before he could even get a glimpse at one page. However, after few discrete calls and a few whispered promises, ParSec's friends within the Alliance Military were more than happy to discretely supply all of ParSec's intelligence needs without the burdensome interference of politicians.

    And what amazing intelligence it was. It not only provided information on the Batarian pirate fleet's movements, troop numbers, the composition of their equipment and ships, but also their plans for their attack on Elysium. Honestly, a child could have planned out the ambush he had inflicted on their forces. Even without the latest PI gear from their Golden Girl.

    Having full knowledge that the pirates were planning to attack Elysium as well as their landing site. Nicholas, had his non-legionary troops and the local militia dig in around the capital. He ordered Jelica Evelina and the majority of the Legionary contingent, to remain hidden near the pirate's landing site, while Ithix commanded their air assets. His plan was to draw out the pirates to attack the Capitol. Once their assault faltered in face of the firepower from ParSec's hammerheads and Tigers. The pirates, being the cowardly lot that they were, would immediately begin to flee back to their ships at which Jelica Evelina and the ParSec Legionaries, would spring the trap and pin the Batarians down in a kill zone while Ithix destroyed their ships.

    And the plan worked perfectly.

    Nicholas continued to smile as he walked back to his headquarters within one of the "nicest" hotels on Elysium, Andrew began typing a note on his Omni-tool. A reminder to buy, Lindsey Bradley, that Pinot Noir, that she happened to like from New Zealand. It was only fair, after that favor she did for him. The men and women of PI were still celebrating downtown, enjoying the hospitality of a grateful populous.

    Nicholas wanted to join them, but, he needed to report to his superior. Hence the reason why he was now entering the deserted headquarters. Nicholas closed the door to his office and open a secure communication link to his mentor.

    In the blue light of the holographic image, the Illusive Man smiled.

    "Agent Nicholas, it is good to see you again. I trust you succeeded in repelling the Batarian attack on Elysium"

    Nicholas drew himself to attention before responding, "Yes Sir, the plan worked perfectly. The Batarian Pirates had no idea that we were ready for them. Every Batarian Pirate, who came to raid, kill and plunder, is dead. The intelligence provided by the Systems Alliance and our Organization was invaluable, However ...".

    "Go on"

    Nicholas continued, "This has been the Fifth raid this month. The frequency and intensity of these raids have only increased since Revy send us to protect the colonies. And it is only going to get worst as this war goes on. I need more men."

    The Illusive Man began to smoke a cigarette. Tasting the cigarette, Illusive Man took his time before replying.

    "I don't have the men to spare".

    Nicholas was shocked, "Sir with all due respect, that answer is not good enough! I need more men! Revy needs more men! My men and I are playing an important role in her plans. I can't let her down! We can't let her down!"

    "Easy Andrew! The Illusive Man raises his hands in a calming gesture. I am fully aware of ParSec's importance in Humanity's war effort. I am fully aware of Rebecca Shepard's importance for our plans and Humanity's future. But I need not remind you that ParSec is not the only Military Organization fighting this war. Our wider organization has been fighting the Batarians before this conflict even began and this unexpected conflict has now stretched our resources thin. I will send you more men when I am able. But, as of this moment, you must make do with the men I have already provided to you and ParSec.

    Nicholas calmed down. His face reddening due to his outburst.

    The Illusive Man noticed, "I take it that you have grown fond of Miss Rebecca Shepard"

    Startled but regaining his composure Nicholas replied, "Yes Sir. She is a remarkable woman. She has plans for Humanity and for the Galaxy that I can barely comprehend, but if she succeeds, she will launch Humanity into a millennia-long Golden Age. She deserves my full efforts in any assignment she assigns to me"

    "Excellent, just remember Nicholas, Rebecca is an remarkable woman. Not since Leonardo Da Vinci has Humanity produced such a prodigy. That does not mean she is knowledgeable of what needs to be done."

    Nicholas nodded, "Not to worry sir, Revy is an amazing woman, but she is naive about the intentions of the other Races towards Humanity. The Citadel is attempting to limit our strength just when we need it the most and now they seek to cripple her just before she could get truly started. She doesn't even realize that Mordin Solus is an STG plant. Revy is a great leader, but she needs our guidance in regards to the Citadel Races".

    "Excellent, I am glad we are of one mind on this. Please send me the data package on the hammerhead tanks whenever you have the chance. I await your next drop off" Illusive Man ended the call.

    Andrews Nicholas got up from his stair and began to walk back to downtown Illyria.

    Note to Everyone: Hi Everyone, this is my first Omake for this quest. I am pretty sure it is horrible, but what do you guys think? Should I change anything or fix anything?
     
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    • Do we have any in-universe reason to do so? Cerberus has likely already started. Jack is proof enough of that. Though I do enjoy the idea of his benefactors where they should be investing.

    Edit: Wasn't there a Krogan scientist that killed his mentor after the mentor insulted him and he wanted to make a 'ground pounder'.
     
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    Pretty much every Cerberus Project got loose and started killing all their dudes. From Thresher Maws, to Rachni, to Commander Shepard and EDI.
     
    Ithillid said:
    Pretty much every Cerberus Project got loose and started killing all their dudes. From Thresher Maws, to Rachni, to Commander Shepard and EDI.
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    Only the ones we saw. We gotta assume they regularly successful at something, or they wouldn't have any backers.

    I do like the fact that if Revy eveefails a fight there is a good chance that tri2 will just roll for survival and we'll either get Batarians locking her in a cave demanding golden eggs, or she'll die and Cerberus will have even greater reason to bring her back from the dead.
    We may even have Brian and Liara take the place of Alenko and Williams. In that scenario.
     
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    Admittedly I think the omake has it's issues, no offense. First issue is The Illusive Man having such a big role here, I don't think it makes much sense. I mean here we have Andrew asking him for men which doesn't make sense. Cerberus is a black ops organization at this point meaning they shouldn't have that many men, none of their agents should be begging TIM for men since the SA has numerous more connections. On top of that them being black ops means that they are more than likely already helping the war effort by doing actual black ops that ParSec wouldn't be getting involved in.

    Second I don't think that TIM would actually be that interested in trying to influence Revy, he is pragmatic enough to realize that doing so is likely to cause issues and even backfire since it's pretty obvious that Revy, while the main reason for humanities rapid advancements and her putting humanity first in most cases, isn't xenophobic and is pretty likely to be turned off by the more xenophobic organization. On top of that he doesn't really need to do anything since Revy is already constantly helping humanity in numerous ways from investing heavily into protecting human colonies, spending colossal amounts of money to lobby more favorable deals for humanity, to making the most advanced tech available to humanity. If he does try to influence her he'd likely try to be very subtle about it.

    Basically she is doing almost everything he approves of already minus maybe being a bit more pro human but as is he's probably already fine with her as is.

    Second is that I doubt if Andrew was an agent that he would have a direct connection to TIM. Andrew is after all pretty young and wasn't that much older than Revy and joined ParSec early on. I can't see him trusting someone as young as him with his identity. Miranda at least is four years older than Shepard and was picked up by Cerberus as a teenager so it's a bit more believable in her case, especially with her being the original peak human before Revy's treatment and even then he probably didn't trust her that much right away.

    Third on the topic I don't doubt that he may already have agents, I doubt that he wouldn't send the more 'photogenic' members. As in TIM would probably screen and pick members that are the most 'friendly face' for Cerberus like he did in ME2. Meaning that if he did send agents they'd be more like the Normandy's crew in ME2 where everyone is more humanity first than the truly xenophobic members of Cerberus. So you'd get guys more like Miranda, Jacob and Kelly then the more terrible/extreme members of Cerberus to avoid potentially alienating Revy. So if Andrew was picked for such an important and major role from a pragmatic standpoint TIM wouldn't have sent someone that would give a horrible impression so I'd imagine that he'd be one of the moderate members like Miranda and Jacob.

    Those are my critiques on the matter.
     
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    Anybody remember that Varren can develop Biotic abilities if they grow up on places like Thessia?
    Let's search for a Varren Whisperer and bring in some Biotic Varren, train them, give them Magi and the tune up genemod (how long do they live anyway?) and some armor and shields then send them in with ParSec. Alliance too if they want to add a K-9 unit to their forces. Might need to research to keep their pups Biotic too.
     
    @tri2 Here is another project idea.

    Biotech:
    [ ] Refined Red Sand: Red Sand is known as not just a stimulant for enhancing biotics but outright able to give telekinetic biotics to many non biotics in multiple races albeit at low levels. Unfortunately it comes with side effects including addiction. Fortunately you are sure you can fix those issues, pretty much just leaving the positives. With this anyone can experience what it's like to have biotics.

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    For the record the idea is to have a new recreational drug that is able to give anyone biotics but only at low levels. While it can enhance biotics imagine it wouldn't be as much with their being drugs more geared towards specifically in enhancements like Minagen X3 which is what we may want to work on for serious biotics boosting. One of the main reasons I came up with the project is that after reading the wiki it's noted that biotics face a lot of prejudice on Earth even by canon in a decade from now.

    The idea was that if we can give people even low level biotics with casual drugs like this that the fear in regards to biotics would rapidly start to disappear as the drug became more widespread and many people can experience what it's like to be a biotic. Also imagine it as a great money maker if we can spread it out to the other races like the Salarian's. On top of that also imagining that said drug is only meant for low level biotics and if we want anything more powerful we are going to need more in depth medical procedural like our treatments or surgery.

    Another fun fact, according to the wiki apparently the Krogan did come up with a surgery that lets them give other Krogan biotics. It just had a high mortality rate and after the Genophage they stopped deploying it. So such projects do already exist in Mass Effect making our own project fit very well in universe.
     
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    Nice! And that fits very well in my Biotic Varren idea too. We even have a Krogan with ties to Krogan college of scientist and we do have that species of bio experts we can make deals with to help it along as well!
     
    urrrrrggggghhhhh, SV has deleted the stuff saved in this posting section again, glad I did not really do that much or else I would have been really pissed.
     
    tri2 said:
    urrrrrggggghhhhh, SV has deleted the stuff saved in this posting section again, glad I did not really do that much or else I would have been really pissed.
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    Yeah I've had that happen to me many times. It is why whenever I'm working on a sufficenty long post I always back it up (in BBCode form) in Notepad++ (although regular Notepad would work just fine). That way I've got a saved copy I can just paste in the reply form and resume from should something happen.
     
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