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Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)

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lbmaian said:
Questions:
1) Round up or down?
2) Does it apply for the current construction projects? For ex, if there is still 4 quarters left of construction, is that now halved to 2 quarters?
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1. round up
2. Yes
lbmaian said:
What tier is the SA at? Are they still allowed 6 dreadnoughts? or is it now 8 dreadnoughts? (Can't be down to 4, since no polity would agree to mothballing existing dreadnoughts.)
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Tier 0 Turians: 62
Tier 1 Asari: 32
Tier 2 Salarians:16
Tier 3 Volus/Humans: 8
Tier 4 Hanar: 4
Tier 5 Elcor: 2
Tier 6 None: 1

Humans and Hanar used to be Tier 6, then they both economically grew hard.
Tazered said:
Just a bit of fridge logic but with all this construction, why haven't we found the beacon?
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You think anyone is going to let any company build next to or essentially on a very important dig site? Plus not even sure that digging has even started yet, this is 6 years before eden prime mission. Also like people said planets are big.
Inbetweenaction said:
a very reasonable reasoning. The only real counterpoint would be that Tony's system was designed to be easier to bring everywhere, and then kilos start to matter more. But seeing how we have a reasonable extra risk of being spaced when our meeting rooms get shot up, a few kilos extra is a good trade of. We are also risking way heavier guns then Tony would ever reasonably expect, so not going ultra thin on the armor just makes sense.
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plus unlike Tony, Revy has captain america like body so she can handle a heavier suit of armor.
 
[X] Yes, pay 60% of the planetary defenses
[X] Yes, sell UV lasers to customers
[X] Keep Cortana name
Red Bovine said:
So what should we officially name the Mk2 armor?
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If we are staying with Roman themes then Hoplite comes to mind. Is that second exo armor that goes above it counted as apart if the Mark II armor? If so? Given how thick you are indicating this'll be then Bustuarius might be a good name. Or Bustuarius could just be an umbrella term for the armored overcoat for any of your armor types. Because 'Bustuarius' is supposed to mean 'tomb fighter'. And if you can get hurt underneath that much armor then your gonna be dead. Plus it has the 'bust' of 'buster' in it! I wonder if that had to do anything with naming the original buster armor?
At this point forward I think we should focus on purpose built armors to be super good at very specific tasks.
Or stuff like Tony Stark's watch that becomes a metal glove with a repulsor.
I am surprised. I honestly thought it'd be the Mark 3 or 4 that we get something like this. Seems too OP'd. But with all that other tech I suppose it makes sense that something like this would happen. But how do you collapse something that strong and thick into a "briefcase" and actually lift it?
 
Inbetweenaction said:
a very reasonable reasoning. The only real counterpoint would be that Tony's system was designed to be easier to bring everywhere, and then kilos start to matter more. But seeing how we have a reasonable extra risk of being spaced when our meeting rooms get shot up, a few kilos extra is a good trade of. We are also risking way heavier guns then Tony would ever reasonably expect, so not going ultra thin on the armor just makes sense.
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We're also physically stronger and fitter compared to Tony, so it would easier to carry all that extra weight.

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Inbetweenaction said:
The only real counterpoint would be that Tony's system was designed to be easier to bring everywhere, and then kilos start to matter more.
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Something else to consider is that Eezo is a thing. I wouldn't put it past Revy to have designed the Mk2 such that when in carry mode the shield generators act as a mass reduction field. So she could pump in even more kilos then her peak human body would allow for.
 
dammit I need a reminder, Revy is aware of something destroying the protheans, but she is not aware they are reapers specifically or about indoctrination right?
 
tri2 said:
dammit I need a reminder, Revy is aware of something destroying the protheans, but she is not aware they are reapers specifically or about indoctrination right?
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Er, all I remember is that the Hanar wanted the fleet anticipating a fight with "The Extinguishers" or something.
Sounds like we have reason to believe they are still around somewhere or that they might come back, but probably not indoctrination.
 
tri2 said:
dammit I need a reminder, Revy is aware of something destroying the protheans, but she is not aware they are reapers specifically or about indoctrination right?
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She received a vision of the Reapers wiping out a Prothean planet:
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The greatest shock comes when Liara removes the thin metal rectangle. An electronic device of some sort, it activates the moment Liara's gloves touch it. You quickly attempt to move it away in case it's dangerous, but all you succeed in is being in contact with it when it turns on, and you see.

You are in Paragon Industries HQ/The Citadel/Center and you gaze upon the greatness of your Company/Empire/Achievement, and it is wondrous indeed.

Then you suddenly stand outside Landing/An Unknown City/Home and it burns. From the sky come ships. Black-Necron?-Tyranids??/Metal-Insect-Cuttlefish/Destroyers and they destroy all that oppose them. Even the Cabria/Particle-Beam-Crusier/Powerful Warship floating above the city to protect it is swatted aside. You turn and run.

After a journey you are exuasted and spent before a cave. In the cave you approach a box. Opening it you see a set of items. Toys, pieces of a civilization. You pull out a ANI/thin metal rectangle, bring it to your head and...

Returning to reality, you pause, "So that was either the fall of the Prothean empire, or a commercial for a movie."

Liara looks profoundly disturbed, "The first, I'd argue. That city... it's the one that the treasure hunt for the box said to start from. There's nothing there any more. Just a flat plain with no signs a city ever stood there."

"You should probably take a break. You said you were too far into the memory before, that had to have just made it worse." concern filling you voice.

"Yes that may be for the best. I... I think I'll take a nap."

As you leave the room, you contemplate how to tell the galaxy the Protheans were wiped out by giant Metal-Insect-Cuttlefish things. At least, you're fairly sure the Necron and Tyranid imagery was your brain trying to translate the memory using your own associations. The galaxy is screwed if the people who invented 40k were on to something.
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so she knows of them and would probably recognize one on sight but she doesn't really know any of the specifics or details like indoctrination.
 
right yes, so no IC reason to use the brain shield when handling any reaper/batarian tech, will have a event roll to see if noticed or something or someone get indoctrinated if it ever gets to that point.
 
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KhazintheDark said:
We might need to expand more into the core worlds soon. I don't think the outer colonies have enough educated/skilled workforce for our plans.
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Did you miss the casual commoditization of all mankind labor with 'skilltapes' in the update.

BTW that technology would 'obsolete' the middle class. Everyone (except billionaires and highly highly highly intelligent specialists) is lumpenproletariat now. What's the point in hiring a architect that spent 3-5 years studying the stuff when you can get a bum off the pub and the next afternoon he'll give the plans for a keg. It's almost as bad as true AI, and cheaper, which means it's possibly worse (if with a lower highest level of skill), true AI which is also in the update btw.

But it's not like capitalism wasn't shit before, so any and all pressures that lead to the 'revolution' are good i guess.
 
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cageorks said:
take the size below as a tier 3 factory we build. 13 million square feet
13 million square feet something like 1.2 squared kilometre and earth itself is 510.1 million km²(the sea included) so 40 factory 3 are 48km² not even 0.01% so yea very easy to see why we not found the prothens
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Then there's subsurface surveys to ensure you install the proper type of foundation, digging for roadways, water lines, data lines, sewage and other waste reclamation and treatment systems...
tri2 said:
You think anyone is going to let any company build next to or essentially on a very important dig site? Plus not even sure that digging has even started yet, this is 6 years before eden prime mission. Also like people said planets are big.
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Doubt they would if a dig was ongoing or planned for, it's just that in the games we head first to the dig site on the outskirts of the city and then to the station where it was moved for eventual transport into orbit. Not taking a hard position on it but I just thought that it wouldn't be out of expectations for a construction crew to make an archeological find.

Edit: I think players wanted the option of having a defense for indoctrination and leveraged the fact that Prothean tech had a way of influencing minds to communicate into an in-game reason for designing tech that stops other forms of mental influence.
 
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Hoyr said:
News:
Hanar Initiate Naval Rebuilding Program
It has been recently announced that the Hanar intend to replace their entire fleet with new vessels and to build up to the largest possible Navy that they can possibly sustain economically. This includes seven brand new Dreadnought class vessels, as well as five to six thousand other combat vessels and numerous additional support craft.

"The Message from the Enkindlers is clear. Just as the Enkindlers brought light, in their wake follows the Extinguishers. We must prepare for them to come. When we do not know, but the price of being unprepared is too high!" said a spokes person for the Illuminated Primacy.

This comes amid the shocking revelation of what may have been the end of the Prothean Empire and a general trend toward increased military spending caused by the implementation of new technologies. Analysts expect other races to contemplate similar programs.
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never mind, I don't think anyone in universe has a logical reason to belive the Reapers or whatever they're called are around. The Hanar are just assuming because reasons.
 
[X] Yes, donate the planetary defenses
[X] Yes, sell UV lasers to customers
[X] Keep Cortana name
[X] Default Halo Cortana
 
tri2 said:
right yes, so IC reason to use the brain shield when handling any reaper/batarian tech, will have a event roll to see if noticed or something or someone get indoctrinated if it ever gets to that point.
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Makes sense, on top of that meta wise we can just not research any such tech and in character Revy has her own tech which is ridiculously advanced itself so we don't really need to research them. Especially on the Batarian's end since Revy's stuff is outright better than theirs.

Throw in that if indocrination does show up it's far, far more likely that it would be due to someone else researching which would give us an IC reason to start doing so on mass for our people. As is we don't really need to worry as much about it. Especially since the Reapers likely want Revy's mind as intact as possible.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Ah yes, the eternal quarterly PI vs PI arms race.
If we'd researched TIR sheilding we could announced we'd obsoleted a form of weapon in the demonstration immediately after it had revolutionised space warfare.
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I doubt that TIR would obsolete lasers considering that kinetic barriers didn't obsolete kinetic weapons. I imagine that they work like KB in that they absorb laser attacks for as long as the shields are up.

Tazered said:
Then there's subsurface surveys to ensure you install the proper type of foundation, digging for roadways, water lines, data lines, sewage and other waste reclamation and treatment systems...
Doubt they would if a dig was ongoing or planned for, it's just that in the games we head first to the dig site on the outskirts of the city and then to the station where it was moved for eventual transport into orbit. Not taking a hard position on it but I just thought that it wouldn't be out of expectations for a construction crew to make an archeological find.
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Something important to remember is that the Prothean's were deliberately hiding from the Reapers so it makes sense if certain facilities are hidden from anything trying to look for them.
 
UberJJK said:
She received a vision of the Reapers wiping out a Prothean planet:

so she knows of them and would probably recognize one on sight but she doesn't really know any of the specifics or details like indoctrination.
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I don't think she saw them clearly. She has then represented in 40k terms Tyranids and calls them cuddle fish. I don't think she can identify on sight.


Edit: I could see mind shields being researched because Revy wants it To be perfect of she decides to use it sell it.


Edit2: Maybe we should create a protean converter so people don't have to meld to get tech off beacons. It'll convert their visions to computer code.
 
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Red Bovine said:
I doubt that TIR would obsolete lasers considering that kinetic barriers didn't obsolete kinetic weapons. I imagine that they work like KB in that they absorb laser attacks for as long as the shields are up.
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TIR isn't dependent on the strength of the laser to bleed through. The T stands for total.
There isn't a total barrier power beyond which it cannot absorb anything it just reflects 99.9999% of light that impacts it. For every MWatt of power only 0.1KWatt actually gets through. This number was based on a solid silvered surface absorbing some of the light as heat, and since TIR sheilding just bounces off of a bubble of space this is actually an extreme worst case for the target.. Why is light energy 100% reflected in total internal reflection?

And since the shooter can't even see the target (because light is reflected from the shield not the ship) they have to just hope they're shooting where the target is and the TIR bubble is centered on the target ship or something, rather than offset to cause anyone shooting at it to miss.
 
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@tri2
I want to propose a tech in the shipbuilding tree!
Article:
[] Mothership
The heart of the fleet. An indipended beginning wherever one reaches. A dream of exploring new galaxies. Something practicality has teached as impossible. On paper it is possible to design a ship that can be all of these things but the thought experiments end with ships projected to be the size of Omega. You are sure that putting it all into a dreadnaught frame is not possible but Quarians show that it is possible with far less.

It would mainly unlock the requirements to build one. But it would be really cool!
 
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