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Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest

Should the world be a Low Fantasy setting?

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See as a counterpoint @10ebbor10 i feel like we havent been taking choices that would make those differences natural to write about.

All our interaction with foreign actors has been either war or integrating them. There hasnt been a groundside view or at least a chance too.

Weve been focusing on monument building and stuff.

To my knowledge any chance we have of seeing an IC comparison of arthwyd and foreign peoples has been torpedoed.

We wouldnt care about labour differences when we were fighting Urth or Vervovs line. Further our only real foreign interaction we subsumed and tried to assimilate in the Maradysh.

All im saying is that there havent been many opportunities to show what youre asking for. Has oshha been missing the few that pop up? Yeah admittedly.
Like we couldve gotten a PoV of a maradysh or bronwyns mom or sumthing but weve been pretty isolationist.

The fact that the arthwyd dont mention the frailer constitution id chalk up to them not having longterm peaceful contact with a foreign power where it would be visible. So IMO they and the QM resorted to the most immediate and obvious differnence between the arthwyd and foreign peoples. The beauty of their women.

Although the lack of thigh or hip appreciation is a sad thing :V.

Thats my 2 cents(more like dime) anyway.
 
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Oshha said:
Okay, here is what I've got for the upgraded Blessing of Arthryn:
  • Passive Breast Support Spell (no big breast problems)
  • Close Empathy between Blessed (lets you have an idea of whatever someone else is feeling when they are physically close to you, amplified by holy sites and other Arthrynite holy stuff)
  • Limited Shapeshifting (can make minor changes to existing features)
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I would be a fan of Reduced Senescence, myself, but that might be a bit OP if it lets heroes live for many turns regularly.
 
Oshha said:
Okay, here is what I've got for the upgraded Blessing of Arthryn:
  • Passive Breast Support Spell (no big breast problems)
  • Close Empathy between Blessed (lets you have an idea of whatever someone else is feeling when they are physically close to you, amplified by holy sites and other Arthrynite holy stuff)
  • Limited Shapeshifting (can make minor changes to existing features)
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What's the limits of the shape shifting? Are they simply able to alter facial features and color of their hair, or something more extensive like growing taller? In other words, is it simply cosmetic or does it have any functional capacity?

Edit: a few examples;
1. Hair color
2. Facial features
3. Skin color/tone
4. Height
5. Expanding muscles for increased strength
6. Skeletal alterations such as broader shoulders, longer limbs, solid rib cage
 
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Cariyaga said:
Wait, I know of a character in a fic analyzing excrement to determine how many people were there, but you're telling me players did that in another quest? Bahahaha!
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Honestly it was just someone pointing out the MC had never been to the toilet and that it was weird given the time frame and other players were about to brush this off when Avalanche (the QM) blundered in saying "How did you figure out that Anna hasn't actually used her digestive system in decades and instead processes food she eats with the hammerspace of her mech?" He read a lot into that post that wasn't there.
 
More slang @Oshha

Wryns mind/imagination - dirty, perverse mind or wild imagination.

Searching for Wryn / you are my Wryn - searching for inspiration/muse/you are my muse. Mostly used by artists and writers

Wryn will write stories about you - you will be remembered for all times , mostly refered to hero's, persons that achieved extrodinary things in life.

Council of Ymarn - council of elders, wise council (can be used on council of priests).
 
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Look everyone, can we just drop this for now? If anyone wants to discuss this further, take it to Discord or something. :(

The quest has frozen under all of this debating.
 
Been away for a while, chiming in- the main complaint seems to be that your emphasizing the blessing/big breast's over everything else in our society.

Like, the whole forest of undead and the lich we fought should be at least equally focuses on in our culture, as we literally warred with and army of the undead and continue to keep them bottled up in their forest.

Like, why doesn't our religion have a huge emphasis on proper care of the deceased, turn undead magic, or have a segment of our holy warriors dedicated to combatting the undead.

Because the whole forest of eternal evil filled with undead should be a constant stress in the back of everyone's mind. It doesn't matter that they haven't been doing anything-

There is a literal army of the damned laying in wait just beyond their sight, and they know it.
 
The more time the thread spends talking about something, the more it's going to end up in the authors mind, and therefore writing. So if you want a shift in focus - start being the change you want to see in the thread.
 
Gino said:
Been away for a while, chiming in- the main complaint seems to be that your emphasizing the blessing/big breast's over everything else in our society.

Like, the whole forest of undead and the lich we fought should be at least equally focuses on in our culture, as we literally warred with and army of the undead and continue to keep them bottled up in their forest.

Like, why doesn't our religion have a huge emphasis on proper care of the deceased, turn undead magic, or have a segment of our holy warriors dedicated to combatting the undead.

Because the whole forest of eternal evil filled with undead should be a constant stress in the back of everyone's mind. It doesn't matter that they haven't been doing anything-

There is a literal army of the damned laying in wait just beyond their sight, and they know it.
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Because they basically got kicked down the one time, without use of any specialized magic, and haven't recovered yet. The Boarfolk were a more serious threat, and we never developed good anti-cavalry tactics either so there you have it.
 
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Yeah, in retrospect it doesn't really make sense that we won those conflicts but that's the power of dice rolls I guess.
 
UlseDovThur said:
What's the limits of the shape shifting? Are they simply able to alter facial features and color of their hair, or something more extensive like growing taller? In other words, is it simply cosmetic or does it have any functional capacity?

Edit: a few examples;
1. Hair color
2. Facial features
3. Skin color/tone
4. Height
5. Expanding muscles for increased strength
6. Skeletal alterations such as broader shoulders, longer limbs, solid rib cage
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Basically, I liked this suggestion.
kingreaper said:
Woman decides to have kids? Hips expand, breasts grow - men know she's fertile and interested.

Man decides to be a sneaky scout? He shrinks a little, becomes more lithe and acrobatic,
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kingreaper said:
So rather than every woman being top heavy all the time, if a woman chooses to be a scout or a warrior her body shifts to a more athletic/acrobatic form, while if she chooses to concentrate on raising children she goes to the "fertility goddess" form of birthing hips and large breasts.

If you start doing hard labour it doesn't take years for you to build up your muscles, just days or weeks, and if you move from that to running messages your muscles switch over jobs quickly and cleanly.
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Because of this is I view as limited ability to change your physical build such as increasing or decreasing muscles and altering breast size and widening or thinning hips depending on you currently want to do. You would be limited to only a small amount of change away from your default/natural form so it won't be massive changes, just making yourself more adjusted to whatever your job is at the moment or what you are trying to achieve. It would still be distinctly you and couldn't change stuff like hair length or any of your colouring or any facial features.

I have changed the description to the below:
Limited Shapeshifting (can make minor adjustments to your physical build)

kingreaper said:
The more time the thread spends talking about something, the more it's going to end up in the authors mind, and therefore writing. So if you want a shift in focus - start being the change you want to see in the thread.
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At this point, I'm half-tempted just to shove a bunch of talk about 'mountains' into the next updates to be honest. Probably won't, but the thought is there after all this.

Gino said:
Been away for a while, chiming in- the main complaint seems to be that your emphasizing the blessing/big breast's over everything else in our society.
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No, the main complaint is stupid at this point and has long since lost basis in reality and actual facts. It has descending into cherry-picking certain bits and ignoring everything else as far as I can tell, they project their own breast-obsessed minds over their reading of the quest to see stuff there isn't actually there.

I'm seriously considering having a couple of Arthwydish people discuss mountain-climbing the next update at this point just because people who are supposedly against the mentioning of breasts keep bring up breasts.

Gino said:
Yeah, in retrospect it doesn't really make sense that we won those conflicts but that's the power of dice rolls I guess.
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Keystone Army. Urth's army of the walking dead was beating your forces when Evalyn got really lucky and defeated Urth in single combat. Without him, his army basically fell apart. That was over two centuries ago and no threat has arisen from the Cursed Forest since.
 
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Gino said:
Been away for a while, chiming in- the main complaint seems to be that your emphasizing the blessing/big breast's over everything else in our society.
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Eh, not sure the undead forest would have such a big influence, but close enough.

Oshha said:
No, the main complaint is stupid at this point and has long since lost basis in reality and actual facts. It has descending into cherry-picking certain bits and ignoring everything else as far as I can tell, they project their own breast-obsessed minds over their reading of the quest to see stuff there isn't actually there.

I'm seriously considering having a couple of Arthwydish people discuss mountain-climbing the next update at this point just because people who are supposedly against the mentioning of breasts keep bring up breasts.
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Very mature conversation we got going here.

In addition, the argument that in order to criticize something the criticism shouldn't be mentioned is, of course, completely inane.
 
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This is why we shouldn't have upgraded the Blessing. Having it become an even more important part of our civ's culture will lead to.... well. How to put it? A degradation of certain values?
 
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I will argue that at this point this discussion has long left the point of usefulness. Both sides are clearly not budging and now tempers are rising.

So chill out before the mod hammer comes fallin on our mortal heads.

Fuckin breasts man.

I aint saying we stop forever. But clearly we should wait a bit.
 
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This is why we shouldn't have upgraded the Blessing. Having it become an even more important part of our civ's culture will lead to.... well. How to put it? A degradation of certain values?
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Eh, the problem was never with the blessing, but with the narrative around it. That narrative can change, remain, or worsen regardless of whether we do or do not upgrade it.

Remember, the original blessing was described like this.

Oshha said:
At first nobody knew what Arthryn had done as there were no visible indications or clues to reveal what she had changed, but as the seasons went on and winters would come and go, the People would soon begin to realise what the blessing had done.

It was a gradual thing and only those belonging to older generations had been around long enough to notice the differences. The People were naturally tougher and while they still got injured and ill, it happened less often and would recover quicker.

Some others claimed other differences, but it was hard to prove the claims of increased strength and speed and stamina. What some claimed was due to the blessing of the goddess, could easily just be the result of hard work and training.

The biggest change that happened was due to the new resilience of the People, it took longer for old age to claim those belonging to the People. The silver hair of an elder took longer to appear and the elders would begin to live for a few more winters than they had in past generations.
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The figure aspects weren't described in the narrative at all. They got a single sentence in the author's note below the post.
 
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He has mountainus terrain = used by Arthwyd females to describe well builded/muscular man.

Little Slag for Arthwyd women when they talk about males.
 
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Oshha said:
Okay, here is what I've got for the upgraded Blessing of Arthryn:
  • Passive Breast Support Spell (no big breast problems)
  • Close Empathy between Blessed (lets you have an idea of whatever someone else is feeling when they are physically close to you, amplified by holy sites and other Arthrynite holy stuff)
  • Limited Shapeshifting (can make minor changes to existing features)
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Wyrn: "...I can work with this. Hey, All-Seeress, I need some help with planning."
 
I've gotta say, getting Empathy at the same time as resolving this fissure in the Merntir seems really awesome narratively. Looking forward to this!
 
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The Tragedy of Evalyn The Mighty: Evalyn the Boarslayer
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    • The Tragedy of Evalyn The Mighty: Evalyn the Boarslayer

    Of once there was the mighty

    whose footsteps were so weighty,

    whose gods tore heaven a gash,

    and whose legacy is so much ash.

    Seven in name and seven in deed,

    Terrible Vervov atop his steed,

    is the end of Merntish Malbyn,

    the equal of long and loyal Cadyn.

    Vasov in his forefather's mold,

    Faces young Cerwyn the bold,

    While the rampage of Urth

    is met by Evalyn sallying forth.

    Each legend has its tale,

    which future poets will detail,

    but this is the tragedy,

    of Evalyn the divine mighty.

    Sing in me, Wyrn whose visage

    I imitate in this homage.

    For Evalyn's tale is long,

    and I wish not to sing this wrong.

    Her birth was to Zaradysh

    but her blessing realized her wish

    and among the Cateyes whom

    she grew up watching bloom

    she was recognized as the greatest

    fighter to the east and west

    borders of the Arthwryd,

    her young strikes swift as a bird

    and strong as the northern boars.

    Then that same bloody band roars

    across the mountains North

    bringing war to the Merntir earth,

    so the Cateyes and Evalyn head

    to the villages filled with the dead

    as the Merntir cut a bloody sea

    and Vervov summons another three.

    Of Malbyn, Cadyn, and Evalyn,

    no one alone suffices to pin

    that vicious unrelenting Vervov,

    who in his ten on twentieth

    clash with the three of myth

    ends old stalwart Malbyn

    leaving only Cadyn and Evalyn.

    Despite Evalyn's catlike tread

    and sharp eyes on a catlike head,

    Vervov escaped, saying only

    that Malbyn had been manly

    and that he wished for clashes

    against the girl with the three slashes.

    For ten on twenty seasons more

    the two carried on as before,

    until all Merntir falls, and Evalyn

    finds Vervov among the din

    of the burning Seer's village where he

    sought to put the survivors to sea

    Evalyn fells a half-dozen around

    where Vervov stands his ground

    to which he dismisses the rest

    because only the greatest

    can stand this meeting

    and that makes things exciting.

    Evalyn replies with an upper

    a poke, and a pivot to the lower,

    which the sparks the memory

    of parting words in history

    so savage Vervov boasts true:

    "There are warriors like you

    amongst every people I have met

    and I have bested all of them yet."

    Evalyn spared no words

    to focus on cutting Vervov's cords.

    Ten on twenty blows are made

    as even Evalyn begins to fade

    so moved, the goddess Arthryn

    rewards her future-kin

    with a final swell

    of power enough to fell

    the scourge and foe

    with a single blow;

    as Evalyn lands the divine fist,

    Vervov soon ceases to exist,

    his final words an elegy

    for Evalyn, whose strategy

    had exhausted her might:

    "Girl with the far sight

    and the three blows

    Do not make all your foes

    as I did, or you too

    will see this side of the blue."

    But Evalyn could not hear,

    what Vervov thought was clear,

    so Evalyn did not heed,

    and brought tyranny without need.

    I present the thread this as my official delurk. Hope you enjoy :V
     
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