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[X] [Urthdysh] Accept it and give farming expertise to the Urthdysh.
just voting to make sure getting farming for the Foresters gets in.
just voting to make sure getting farming for the Foresters gets in.
Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest
- Thread starter Oshha
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- Original
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- Simi Valley, CA, United States
Alright. Diplomatic caution it is then.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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@Oshha I'm not entirely clear on how voting is working for the Urthdysh thing and I think this response should be public rather than a discord-only discussion:
Which among the following is true?:
Which among the following is true?:
- Votes for [GA] that don't vote for [Urthdysh] penalize [Urthdysh]
- I note that this disincentivizes people who don't care about Urthdysh one way or the other to vote at all, OR to vote for everything.
- Voting for all but the highest-voted option on [Urthdysh] will increase the likelihood that the lower options pass without decreasing the chance for the highest-voted option to pass
You know, I even though I still agree with the idea of the match I think people are being a little too optimistic about what a match between Arthwyn and Urthwyn will result in. Urthwyn is definitely not going to be passive or submissive in this relationship if it happens.
Urthwyn is the goddess based on a master manipulator of incredible will who created Daughters who invented and mastered manipulating your romantic partner to do what you want. If this was anyone else I would be certain they would end up a pawn in no time. Regardless, even though she love Arthwyn and don't expect her to stop scheming or even doing thing we may not be happy with. She might love Arthwyn but I highly doubt she would bat an eye at doing morally questionable things to help her or because she thinks it is for the best even if Athwyn disagrees.
Urthwyn won't be neutralized she will just be Arthwyn's scheming wife and partner now.
Urthwyn is the goddess based on a master manipulator of incredible will who created Daughters who invented and mastered manipulating your romantic partner to do what you want. If this was anyone else I would be certain they would end up a pawn in no time. Regardless, even though she love Arthwyn and don't expect her to stop scheming or even doing thing we may not be happy with. She might love Arthwyn but I highly doubt she would bat an eye at doing morally questionable things to help her or because she thinks it is for the best even if Athwyn disagrees.
Urthwyn won't be neutralized she will just be Arthwyn's scheming wife and partner now.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
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- He/Him
The second, but not the first.
[X] [Urthdysh] Accept it and give farming expertise to the Urthdysh.
[X] [Urthdysh] Accept it and give knowledge of how your laws work to the Urthdysh.
[X] [Urthdysh] Accept it and give nautical expertise to the Urthdysh.
[X] [GA] Unlock the Grand Theatre Megaproject. (-2 Temp Mystic, -2 Temp Culture)
[X] [GA] Gain random nautical technology advancement. (-1 Temp Diplo, -1 Temp Econ, -1 Temp Mystic)
I changed my mind about boats.
[X] [Urthdysh] Accept it and give knowledge of how your laws work to the Urthdysh.
[X] [Urthdysh] Accept it and give nautical expertise to the Urthdysh.
[X] [GA] Unlock the Grand Theatre Megaproject. (-2 Temp Mystic, -2 Temp Culture)
[X] [GA] Gain random nautical technology advancement. (-1 Temp Diplo, -1 Temp Econ, -1 Temp Mystic)
I changed my mind about boats.
For The Cadlon
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
For The Cadlon
Glydin scowls as the priestess looks at the latest missive from Greenbay."See what I mean?" says Edwaryd as old farmer waves his hand through the air, "Ridiculous. What happened to the days of when the Cadlon was actually the ruler of the People?"
"The Cadlon is the still the ruler of Arthwyd," points out the third member of their group, the scarred Cateye Farlyn.
"And they should be so without being collared by this goddessdamn Assembly," retorts Edwaryd, "Divine Daughters, the Cadlon serves with the favour the goddesses. They should be able to rule properly and not be held back self-important men and women who don't understand what it is like to be Cadlon."
"What do you think Glydin?" asks Farlyn as he turns to look over at Glydin.
"The Cadlon cannot be everywhere and handle all of the day to day matters that leaders must dealt with," answers the Evalynite priestess, "Because of that, local leaders like ourselves have the duty to pick up the work and do for the Cadlon so they may focus ruling over the whole the People. Now the local leaders of Greenbay have sought to seize some of the Cadlon's rightful duties and have been successful. We could have seen it coming before, but it is only now that they begin to excise their power that their greed has been obvious."
"It isn't right," growls Edwaryd as he stalks back and forth, "I have no grudge against anyone and I bear no ill will to anyone, but I serve my Cadlon and I am loyal to my Cadlon. Not to this boar-arse Assembly nonsense they got going in Greenbay."
"So what are you going to do about it?" asks Farlyn, "Going to start an uprising?"
"Goddesses, no!" exclaims Edwaryd as he turns a glare upon and Farlyn and the Cateyes returns it with one of his own.
"Knock it off men," intervenes Glydin as she steps in between the two, "No one here is considering any form of treachery. You know this Farlyn and we both know it so don't just pick a fight like this."
The Cateye and priestess stare each other in the eye before the latter breaks eye contact with a sign as Farlyn turns away from Glydin.
"I am just on edge," says Farlyn, "Too many of those Urth-born griffins poking their noses about and getting too close to my warriors. I don't care how sacred those beasts are, they are dangerous and fearless and I am certain it is only a matter of time before they attack someone."
"I am with Farlyn on that," says Edwaryd as he leans against the wall, "Those beasts are deadly and dangerous. They have stayed away from the villages so far, but I and others have seen what they have done to livestock. Only a matter of time until they go for people and I would bet an arm that they will go for children first."
"Aye, I don't want any children wondering off on their own," declares Farlyn, "I was going to bring up at the next meeting and I'll ordered the Catclaws to watch the children make sure none of them wonder off on their own."
"The griffins are dangerous then?" inquires Glydin, already knowing the answer.
"Very," confirms Farlyn with a grim look, "They combine the best of both wolves and bears as they have the packs and grace of the former, but the strength and power of the latter. Throw in their ability to fly and you got a goddessdamn nightmare to deal with."
"With talk about the griffin problem later," says Edwaryd, "We need to talk about this storming Assembly and their usurpation of authority that rightfully belongs to the Cadlon. I hope we can all agree that is what happened?"
Glydin's eyes flicker over to Farlyn and the Cateye sighs again.
"Aye, I concur that the Assembly is bunch of greedy fools trying to steal the power of the Cadlon for themselves," says Farlyn, "But by Arthryn's Bountiful Bosom, what are we going to do about it? What can we do about?"
"Not let their stolen authority spread to here," answers Edwaryd, "We are loyal to Cadlon not this corrupt and greedy Assembly. We shall serve the Cadlon dutifully and we shall teach others to. Most of the local council agrees with us on this and the rest can either fall in line or move to Greenbay."
"Like Ayrlyn," says Glydin, naming one of her fellow priestesses, "That woman seeks more power and authority. She is part of the council here, but that isn't enough for her. Given that she cannot become Cadlon, she is a firm supporter of the Assembly as it gives her the opportunity to gain more power."
"Of course that woman would," sneers Farlyn, "That cow would definitely support anything which allows her to increase her power. All-Seeress knows that she has been trying to draw some of my warriors into the ranks of her supporters?"
"I hope they saw her for what she was," states Glydin, turning a look on Farlyn.
"Most did, but to my shame, a few fell for her charms," answers Farlyn, "I can sideline them, but some of them are quite promising."
"I think that if they were able to be swayed by Ayrlyn, then you are better off knowing about that aspect of them now rather than finding out the hard way," says Glydin.
"Aye, that is true," agrees Farlyn, "Still annoying, but there is truth to it that I am better off finding out now then after I given them some positions of power."
"I got enough of that to understand where we stand with this Ayrlyn," cuts in Edwaryd, "The question is how do we deal with her."
"Get her to go to Greenbay," answers Glydin, "It is what the woman wants, but by Evalyn's Claws, it would get her out of our lands. She might even be grateful to us if we helped her along."
"Perhaps we should do that," says Farlin thoughtfully, "Make her the problem of the Assembly rather than our problem."
"It does sound suitably poetic," agrees Glydin with a smile, "I shall make an offer to help her move over to Greenbay in the upcoming days. Between our influence and her also wanting it, I am sure that we can get it done quickly and with minimal fuss."
"Try to see if you can get some of her supporters to go with her," suggests Edwaryd, "The more that we are able to get rid of Assembly supporters, the easier it will be to entrench Grythwyd as a bastion of support for the Cadlon and the royal family. We don't need an Assembly to help run the People when the royal family can do it just fine."
"It is the royal family that has the blood of the goddess in them and not the Assembly," notes Glydin, earning an approving nod from Edwaryd.
"Right!" agrees Edwaryd, "We just need to strength the Grythwyd and make sure that the royal family knows they have a base of support."
"We will need to take it in stages," says Farlyn abruptly, a thoughtful expression on his face, "Too fast and it will come tumbling down as the Assembly moves to crush our rightful opposition. We need to clear about the prominent Assembly supporters like Ayrlyn. Get the likes of her and Baryn and Harwyd out and we can get the lesser supporters out or swayed to our cause. Once we have gotten rid of those that would meaningfully resist us, we focus on securing Grythwyd as a bastion of support for the Cadlon and the royal family against the Assembly."
"We will be with the goddesses by the time that comes to pass," points out Edwaryd.
"And we fail in our lifetimes if we try to rush things," retorts Farlyn, "We move too fast and too openly and we will get too much attention from those that would oppose us. The Assembly has not restrained itself from stealing authority and power it should not have and I have no doubts it will refrain from crushing our opposition to it."
"Farlyn is right," cuts in Glydin as Edwaryd opens his mouth to argue back at the Cateye, "This is something you need to do at the right pace as rushing will end in failure. You can't rush this anymore than you rush to the harvest."
Edwaryd gives an annoyed grunt, but he accepts the words of the priestess as he falls silent. The silence extends for a few moments as neither the priestess, the elder nor the Cateye have anything to say.
"For the Cadlon," says Edwaryd.
"For the Cadlon," agrees Farlyn as he gives the other man an approving nod.
"For the Cadlon," purrs Glydin as the three of them come to their mutual agreement.
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The joys of Legitimacy: 4/3 and the Divine blood value.
Probably does not help that the assembly's first action was to make its own private army.
mixed up church with the proto parliament.
mixed up church with the proto parliament.
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- He/Him
It hasn't done that at all?
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I have sneakying suspicion that Wryn and Evalyn are involved.
If they continue this i think that we should introduce them to the wonders of monotheism.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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Actually, I believe the Law was written by the elders and priestesses.
With the Cadlon's support though. Heck one of the cadlon's actions was getting it in place.
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Ironically system is in spirit of Arthryn as it now allows nonroyal members of the Arthwyd's to take part in governance but it seems that ruling class(as much as they try to tell everyone are equal ) doesn't like that.
My idea is that some members of royal family don't like this since rebels said that they will support Cadlon and royal family.
My idea is that some members of royal family don't like this since rebels said that they will support Cadlon and royal family.
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- Southampton, Great Britain
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- He/Him
It was written by a mixture of Cadlon Wonlyn, Cadlon Evalon, Evatine and the Greenbay elders, the high-ranking members of both the military and the priesthood.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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Fools, the whole lot of them!
yes random, we all know you think it should have just been put to anarchy. But that just wouldn't have made sense to them in character.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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The problem is that the most influential people on the pro-parliament side move to Greenbay to be part of the parliament, leaving the anti-parliamentarians in charge of the narrative.
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I believe this was probably consequence of rapid expansion. Remember Grythwyd is Arthwyd colony, what we should do now is focus on building up our connectivity faster (good thing we chose infrastructure as province action).
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Agree with this, last couple of turns we spend on diplomacy outside, now is the time to turn inside once again and consolidate.
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Agree with this, last couple of turns we spend on diplomacy outside, now is the time to turn inside once again and consolidate.
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Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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- Behind You
"But what you propose will lead to anarchy!" says the Reactionary to every proposal that is not Absolute Monarchy by, so-called, Divine Right. Someone who opens his eyes however, will notice that this slope is nowhere near as slippery as they claim it is.
Guys you are all ignoring the real problem here.
@Oshha how do we get Griffon cav faster so we end these heretic's grumbling!
HERESY!!! How dare you shit talk are holy flying boys for being awesome! It not there fault they are so good at being badasses for our future army.
@Oshha how do we get Griffon cav faster so we end these heretic's grumbling!
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They would more likely get rid of the Assembly - not the monarchy.
I think our best bet is to go "they're both right", pardon the revolutionaries do to them having good intentions, and elevate a third branch of government to check the Assembly.
I'm thinking the priestesses.
Judiciary anyone?