Having the people question the authority of the elites after the recent Collapse could have catastrophic consequences, what with the potential to cause people to start ignoring the technocratic priests or the nobility. We did just reject the option to let commoners join the bureaucracy, after all.
Problems like this is why I opposed that decision.

That's not really the situation though. It isn't about ignoring the nobility, but not blindly trusting them.
 
I would rather the people be angry at the nobility and demanding them to do more than the alternatives. Also I note the priests don't seem to be mentioned anywhere in that. The nobility is going to need to step it up though, and work harder to reunite the empire now that the core isn't on fire.
 
[X] The arrogant and foolish nobility, and themselves for listening without question. (1x)
[X] With Fury and Outrage! (1.5x)
 
[X] The arrogant and foolish nobility, and themselves for listening without question. (1x)
[X] With Fury and Outrage! (1.5x)
 
How long was the timeskip until we faced the Great Khan and where does that exactly put us in relation to OTL?

I thought maybe 500 years. 1000 years if you want to be conservative. @KlinkerKing thoughts maybe 250 years passed.

Edit: Clarify
 
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I don't think there has been a time-skip. We are still going to have the same king and I think we will pick up where we left off in the next year.
 
Current kings predecessor was the one who insulted the Khan and after the war Khan decided to cut his losses and leave back to east, never to return.
 
It has been about thirteen and a half centuries since the Lightning Rounds started in the original quest. 0 Andyidh Dyadorn is the start of this update: Paths of Civilization Original

I honestly feel that is way too long of a timeskip. When the lighting round started, we were already in late antiquity, which is only a rather short period.

Isn't this news to me. Isn't this post Khan? Because we savaged him and won, but died to our wounds.

I am not talking about the current state of the quest.
 
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Eh, the exact timeskip is meaningless. We are roughly at 12th century tech wise with bombard being a new thing. Gunpowder is a tech driver so it's schedule dominates where we are.
 
[X] The evil and savage nomads who burned the fields and smashed the walls. (1.1x)
[X] With Fury and Outrage! (1.5x)
 
[X] The arrogant and foolish nobility, and themselves for listening without question. (1x)
[X] With Fury and Outrage! (1.5x)
 
Info from @Aranfan on discord.

I am wrong by the way, it has been less than 1500 years since Alyx

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the calender puts year zero at the godfist with Yenyna

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and alyx was like, 300 years after that

[7:14 PM]
but yes, China has been rapidly catching up

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honestly, if you two were in the same playground they'd probably be king of the hill

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if for no other reason than outnumbering you by a hell of a lot

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you are impossibly stable compared to them tho

Also this:

does anyone know what "star metal" would be in bad welsh?
 
[X] The arrogant and foolish nobility, and themselves for listening without question. (1x)
[X] With Fury and Outrage! (1.5x)
 
This seems decisive. Closing. Generating update. I'll probably do up a new map first tho.

Adhoc vote count started by Aranfan on Nov 17, 2020 at 8:32 PM, finished with 75 posts and 41 votes.
 
Interlude: Survival (Part 2)
"'I am a punishment from God. If you had not committed great sins, god would not have set such a scourge as me upon you.'

"So spake the Great Khan. The People, after long thought, agreed. So it is that all Ymaryn sources during and after the Collapse began to speak of the Great Khan by the name 'Sherynyt', an ancient term for iron that translates most directly as 'Star Metal' but could also mean 'Weapon of the Gods'.

"The People, it was decided, had strayed from the path of God. They had abandoned humility, and thought only of their own aggrandizement rather than the safety of their community. Thus had the Lord sent the Khan to them as a lesson, and let their own arrogance doom them. Had it not been the will of the People that the traditional bribes to nomad kings be sent out? Was it not the arrogant nobility that saw fit instead to send the Khan's messenger back with an insult? Had the commoners not performed many of the roles of the old nobility adequately when the kingdom was rebuilding itself amidst the Collapse?

"The Nobility openly decried the decline of traditional values and respect for authority, yet their private journals reveal that they had thoughts among similar lines themselves. Many of them blamed themselves for failing to discharge their duty to protect their lessers from the Collapse. Perhaps it was this that led them to so weakly oppose the erosion of their power and status.

"Or perhaps they realized that they could still retain plenty of power by stoking the anger of the mob. For the People were furious at the shattering of the Kingdom. For more than a millennia and a half, they had invested the Thunder Plateau with black soil and agricultural expertise. For almost three thousand years they had tended the banks of the Yllython Mor. Now those provinces were under the boot-heel of nomads or openly rebelling. The People cried out against this, and demanded of their nobility that the borders of the Old Kingdom be restored."

Social Stratification reduced.
Debilitating Belief: Revaunchism, gained.
 
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