So this vote got away from me, as you can no doubt tell. The 1x votes were not, at the time I posted the vote, intended to be trap options. I'm not sure if the "they are a trap" was me having a genuine sudden insight, or just me being absolutely furious at the vote going exactly how I expected it to go. Because I expected some assholes to pick a 1x option and it to win because of it, that is what I entered the vote expecting.
First, if you don't want a option to win then you don't have to offer it. I hate the "assisted suicide" of the elderly and consider it unrealistic for the Ymaryn civ, but I am willing to suspend my disbelief there.
Give them their territory back is something the Ymaryn aristocracy is unlikely to do, but we can easily suspend any disbelief if that is the way you choose to write the quest.
Second, I strongly dislike trap votes.
If you consider people assholes for voting for it then it is a trap vote. You didn't consciously intend it to be a trap, but I think it was a trap from the very moment it was posted due to your feelings about that choice.
Hell, in the original formulation the "give the land back" was crossed out and not an available option. For some reason, at the last second, my brain decided it was a good idea to turn this into a weighted vote like in the lightning rounds.
The lighting rounds were explicitly "rocks fall, everybody dies" because AN had become tired of the original PoC.
Weighted votes can work, if one option is worth 4 times the lowest vote. When one vote is worth 100 times as much then it will only produce salt and frustration.
1. I drop the quest. I have had a person come into my quest and advocate for genocide. I feel dirty and icky and like I am somehow responsible for this. It is not a good feeling. A large part of me wants to drop the quest and curl up in bed for a month.
2. I go with the vote that won. Which would have been "put them in charge of their old lands under your system".
3. I redo the vote with the mechanical incentives I have already established instead of the weighted vote bullshit that just blew up in my face.
I would like the thread's input on this, even if this is not a formal vote and I will not be bound by the thread's desires here. This is just an informal survey to help me figure out what I want to do.
I would prefer if you just take the votes but without any weighting (which means that
Give them their territory back won by 5 votes). (3) is my second preference followed by (2) , but anything works.
Perhaps take a break for a day and think about what option is best for you.
Lots of the readers of this quest like it, and anyone can make a mistake.
Personally, I was surprised when it was revealed that [
Make the Tin Tribes full members of The People, and put loyal commoners over them. (1x) ] would result in cultural genocide and constant guerrilla warfare.
full members of The People should include all the rights of the People, including the freedom to choose what to believe, think, etc. Loyal commoners shouldn't become immediately corrupt the moment they gain power, most should remember their negative experiences with aristocrats and try to avoid acting the same way.
I was planning to vote for it until the actual meaning of the vote was revealed.
The Ymaryn Kings have committed their Authority to 10 turns of
Praise the Sun Part 2 , where they are basically enforcing religious tolerance. The Ymaryn are very arrogant and elitist, but don't seem genocidal or oppressive (compared to historical 14th century nations).
I expected the formerly-commoner Lords to become multilingual, using the native language among their people and the Ymaryn language as a 'court language'. Certain things would be imposed, such as taxes and the overall laws, but their culture would be left alone. Local governments have (by necessity at this tech level) a great deal of independence, and they can easily keep many of their laws and traditions unchanged especially if we put their " old leadership " in charge.
If the lords become corrupt and start trying to oppress the Tin Tribes(likely in a couple of generations), well the King can always bring in the army to enforce tolerance.
