[Warhammer Fantasy: Colony Quest] Your Prize is Responsibility.
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Oh an idea for a quest or a quest chain involving Elise of Albion in that the idea is that she has a vision quest to meet and convince the slann or a high skinks to atleast give more support to Albion and help grow and become more secure in the protection of the leyline. Just a brainstorm of an idea but it could have massive changes down the line and it could lead to an early less violent resettlement of Albion without belakors intervention to spur it.
Also what's the strength of old ones in there manifesting there powers like the elven and human gods cause like basically all beings in lustria with sentience and not corrupted believe in the old ones and sotek and rigg can they manifest themselves like the gods of the emperor because where were going that's there play ground. Cause I feel the old ones should get a bit more attention as active deities as I like sotek i think the likes of tepok huanchi and tzunki should get some spotlight here cause they are fun.
Well, then i am leaning for Gertrude as an Advisor. Else works better ad a Quest-giver for me.
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I think Sasyana is bad. Her trait is fully mediocre. To even get a +5% she'd have to have visited in the past month. Spending four actions on the same target is too much, and made worse by actions that take more than a week to complete. Her only saving grace is having 1 more Diplo than Berry without Imilar's penalty, which makes her the best advisor for talking to dwarf factions for the very first time and nothing else.
Berry is honestly quite good. Lower Diplo than the others, but the +5% she gets covers for it. Food Parcel is excellent, just not critically fantastic like action time reduction. 10% contract reduction has good combo with Gus.
Gertrude's pretty darn good. She's a defensive expert, which is what we want for intrigue, but her lower Intrigue makes her only very slightly better than Sylvester at it.
Else has bonuses we really want, but Sylvester's largely emulates the counter-intel bonus and adds another +1 Intrigue for good measure. That passive penalty to all sabotage and assassination is mighty tempting though.
Berry is honestly quite good. Lower Diplo than the others, but the +5% she gets covers for it. Food Parcel is excellent, just not critically fantastic like action time reduction. 10% contract reduction has good combo with Gus.
Gertrude's pretty darn good. She's a defensive expert, which is what we want for intrigue, but her lower Intrigue makes her only very slightly better than Sylvester at it.
Else has bonuses we really want, but Sylvester's largely emulates the counter-intel bonus and adds another +1 Intrigue for good measure. That passive penalty to all sabotage and assassination is mighty tempting though.
Our court wizard is just our top wizard, not our only wizard. Similarly, just because we're getting a Martial advisor doesn't mean we'll never have any other soldiers.
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Warmach1ne32
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My thoughts on Diplo and Intrigue advisors.
Sasyana sounds like she will be a generalist Diplomat. But the fact that she needs 3 actions with the samw faction to ramp up her bonus is a bit of a let down. We would have at most 4 factions with a bonus +15% if we go from 1 of the 4 factions to the next. But we have to maintain that rotation to maximize the bonus. So she is mainly an Old World focused Diplomat as she had met them before and already have her bonus ramped up.
Imilar is a much better option. Not only does she get a bonus to locals (which is always more important because we are in their backyard and they can make our stay as unpleasant as they want), not only does her bonus always stay on so we don't need to micromanage it, she also makes diplo actions go faster. The faster we can get Diplo actions done, the more of them we can do. The Malus to Dwarves can be side-stepped by using Flynn if we really need to talk to the Dwarves. Otherwise we can ask the Empire for some technical expertise.
Mater looks like she has a good Diplo trait, +20% bonus for 1 Food sounds like a steal since we'll have a wide variety of food sources to choose from. The cheaper Mercs are nice and they would add up over time. But her Diplo is 5 and 10% cheaper mercs is meh.
Gertrude is basically the cooler Pietro.that I predicted would come up in Intrigue.
Sylvester is looks like a good agent when he is against another. Like when he is infiltrating anothe faction or defending our colony from another faction. But our main issue is finding cultists that snuck aboard which Gertrude does a better job against. The Vampires might be a problem, but if they count as corruption then Gertrude is still better. Dark Elves infiltrators or rival human colonies might be the only factions that Sylvester is better than Gertrude at but that is a whole other issue.
Else seems like a 2 for 1 deal, we get +10% bonus against cultists but also makes all assassination and sabotage attempt suffer a -10% penalty, passively. I think I prefer her over Gertrud. Gertrud needed to actively search for cultists while Else have a general bonus to Intrigue while also debuffing any assassination or sabotage while she is doing something else.
Sasyana sounds like she will be a generalist Diplomat. But the fact that she needs 3 actions with the samw faction to ramp up her bonus is a bit of a let down. We would have at most 4 factions with a bonus +15% if we go from 1 of the 4 factions to the next. But we have to maintain that rotation to maximize the bonus. So she is mainly an Old World focused Diplomat as she had met them before and already have her bonus ramped up.
Imilar is a much better option. Not only does she get a bonus to locals (which is always more important because we are in their backyard and they can make our stay as unpleasant as they want), not only does her bonus always stay on so we don't need to micromanage it, she also makes diplo actions go faster. The faster we can get Diplo actions done, the more of them we can do. The Malus to Dwarves can be side-stepped by using Flynn if we really need to talk to the Dwarves. Otherwise we can ask the Empire for some technical expertise.
Mater looks like she has a good Diplo trait, +20% bonus for 1 Food sounds like a steal since we'll have a wide variety of food sources to choose from. The cheaper Mercs are nice and they would add up over time. But her Diplo is 5 and 10% cheaper mercs is meh.
Gertrude is basically the cooler Pietro.that I predicted would come up in Intrigue.
Sylvester is looks like a good agent when he is against another. Like when he is infiltrating anothe faction or defending our colony from another faction. But our main issue is finding cultists that snuck aboard which Gertrude does a better job against. The Vampires might be a problem, but if they count as corruption then Gertrude is still better. Dark Elves infiltrators or rival human colonies might be the only factions that Sylvester is better than Gertrude at but that is a whole other issue.
Else seems like a 2 for 1 deal, we get +10% bonus against cultists but also makes all assassination and sabotage attempt suffer a -10% penalty, passively. I think I prefer her over Gertrud. Gertrud needed to actively search for cultists while Else have a general bonus to Intrigue while also debuffing any assassination or sabotage while she is doing something else.
From these discussions it seems that I need to adjust Pieter and Sasyana up a bit to make them on par with the others in their category.
Any suggestions?
Pieter, for example, could perhaps have some sort of bonus to food/construction in siege or emergencies?
And Sasyana I feel could do with her ramped up bonus remaining longer or perhaps perpetually until some sort of failure occurs.
Like 'every time she fails at a diplomacy check with a faction, her bonus with them goes down by 5%'
Any suggestions?
Pieter, for example, could perhaps have some sort of bonus to food/construction in siege or emergencies?
And Sasyana I feel could do with her ramped up bonus remaining longer or perhaps perpetually until some sort of failure occurs.
Like 'every time she fails at a diplomacy check with a faction, her bonus with them goes down by 5%'
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From what I can tell, Pieter is well-regarded by players and IMO his trait's good, so I think he can be kept the same.
For Sasyana, I'd say make it so we get +5% to rolls and 20% decay reduction with factions we're cordial with, representing regular correspondence between Sasyana and established contacts. No cumulative bonuses. Berry's better at breaking the ice and quickly improving relations, Sasyana is better at maintaining and using established relationships. Imilar's still better than both though thanks to that action time reduction.
Could balancing do with removing the action time reduction/making it more niche?
Like making it such that she can only perform the reduction with factions that are above a certain level of relationship?
Good suggestions for Sasyana, and I think I am going to adjust Pieter a tiny bit to make him less 'intrigue lite'.
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I'd say limit it to factions associated closely with the forests. She speaks for the trees, and if the trees don't like her friends, why would they help her talk to them?
Thank you by the by!
I've tried hard to make them cute and not overly super-horny.
I'll save the horny for the eventual side-stories where we'll develop Rapunzel's latent esoteric elvish fetishes.
I made some modifications to Sasyana and Imilar. I'll think longer on Pieter.
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[X] Yes, Wizards should have a seperate advisor slot
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I didn't consider that his current trait is more Intrigue than Stewardship. In that case, I have an idea. Replace Corruption resistance with disaster mitigation to population and infrastructure. In the north of Kislev, things went wrong because of the harsh weather or the plots of Chaos, so he learned how to prepare stockpiles, fire drills, quarantines, and so on. His specialty is dealing with the worst conditions.
One thing I'll say is that Xiao Yun needs a rework because her current bonus is the most woeful any of the advisors have had thus far. -25% penalty reduction means that if we have a -8 penalty to an action, we essentially get a +2 bonus. That's nothing. Maybe make it so instead there's a bonus equal to the stats of the relevant advisors? So if she's working with someone who has 6 Diplomacy, both advisors have +14 to their rolls. Very powerful, though of course limited to conjoined advisor actions which she's a part of.
I have made alterations to Xiao and Pieter.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
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Agreed, maybe instead of having a bonus with advisors, how about stewardship actions involving multiple cultures get a boost?
I'm saying no only becaause of 2 reasons.
1: That seems more of a diplomacy thing.
2: Tracking cultures would be a fukken mountain of work. Depending how granular I got. I'm not that smart.
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I think Porito is the best choice now. The food bonus gives us better food security, while the exotic plant boost would be better for getting us medicinals, which'll improve our ability to fight disease. More money is good too, even if not as good as the big bonuses Xiao Yun would get us.
Flynn has an Intrigue of 1. He's quite vulnerable to assassination, so a bodyguard will keep him alive.
This was a difficult choice, ultimately coming down to build. Berry is excellent, equivalent to Diplomacy 10 after Food Parcel, but Food Parcel takes an action to do, which isn't a problem for sustained diplomatic efforts but it's otherwise not too flexible. Sasyana gives us the flexibility we want and gets up to Diplomacy 7 at Close-Knit, but Close-Knit takes a long time to get to, and by the time we get there, that extra +5% will probably be redundant.
Imilar is Diplomacy 8 straight off the bat with elves and forest-dwellers. The elf bonus combos with Rapunzel, while the bonus and action time reduction means we can really build up and maintain relations with forest-dwellers, which is excellent. That combos with our jungle adventures and with Porito, since forest-dwellers can help us out with Lustria's plantlife. The action time reduction also means that if we get into an emergency, we can quickly ask them for help.
Gertrude is only the slightest bit better than Sylvester at defence, so she's immediately disqualified. Sylvester vs Else is a hard pick. Sylvester's simply better than her all-around, but Else's better than him where we really want her to be. The passive penalty will keep Intrigue 1 Flynn alive and, unlike Gus, applies wherever any of our advisors are. The penalty also combos with the active part of her trait, giving her essentially +20% versus enemy heroes, which is +6% better than what Sylvester gets.
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Look, once the vote actually starts, I already know who I'm picking, and it isn't for any logical or rational reason. I'm simply putting myself in the Flynn-zone! 
(Pssst, it's the hot ladies, if you couldn't guess already)
(Pssst, it's the hot ladies, if you couldn't guess already)
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Yep, that's why I'm voting for Gus all the way
Look, once the vote actually starts, I already know who I'm picking, and it isn't for any logical or rational reason. I'm simply putting myself in the Flynn-zone!
(Psss, it's the hot ladies, if you couldn't guess already)
Yep, that's why I'm voting for Gus all the way
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Yep, that's why I'm voting for Gus all the way
Of course! It wouldn't be right to leave the fairest one of them all behind!
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I can't emphasise how much I disdain that methodology. I mean really? Just based on who Flynn finds attractive and nothing else? At least half should be eye candy for Rapunzel! Otherwise it isn't fair! Can't believe posters are being so disrespectful neglecting her.Look, once the vote actually starts, I already know who I'm picking, and it isn't for any logical or rational reason. I'm simply putting myself in the Flynn-zone!
(Psss, it's the hot ladies, if you couldn't guess already)
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And it seems you have failed to realize a fatal flaw in your logic! That Rapunzel came with us, not just because she loves her hubby, but that she also has the hots for muscled Amazons! I'm just killing two birds with one stone!
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you will have a dedicated Advisor Slot open for Wizards.
A Wizard will be a touch more expensive than the other Advisors on Upkeep, but about the same on initial hiring cost.
The big difference will come down to their function.
i've had a good long think, and I'll put up a Note post soon about the mechanics while I figure out the three Wizards y'all have to pick from.
you will have a dedicated Advisor Slot open for Wizards.
A Wizard will be a touch more expensive than the other Advisors on Upkeep, but about the same on initial hiring cost.
The big difference will come down to their function.
i've had a good long think, and I'll put up a Note post soon about the mechanics while I figure out the three Wizards y'all have to pick from.