2x Light Cruisers (1800 BP size) 3600 BP, 42 RP to design a blueprint
4x Frigate (900 BP size) => 3600 BP, 29 RP to design a blueprint
12x Destroyers (450 BP size) => 5400 BP, Blueprint existing. 17 RP cost to design a new one.
Throwing away 3600 BP x2 hurts, but are they worth ~70 RP? (costs calculated by halving design costs and adding 4 due to reduced RP from cogitate being busy with blueprint making)
They are all a bit lower than the maximum possible size.
Only worth it, if we intend to keep using that design imo.
We can do the destroyers to the current candle design.
I refuse to do a research as dangerous as demonology without Anexa on it.
A crit on demonology would also be way more impactful than on R&D.
To be fair, the RP costs can be reduced by assigning Cogitare. Especially before we get R&D.
-[] Research x3 (600 + 85 (Anexa) + 60 (Anexa staff) = 745 RP)
--[] Demonology (100 RP)
---[] Anexa assist
--[] Gravity Weapons (200 RP)
--[] The Biggest Boom (150 RP)
--[] Large-Scale Machine Spirits (75 RP)
--[] Abacus Manufactoring (50/100 -> 100/100 RP)
--[] Superconductive Shenanigans (50 RP)
--[] Efficient Equipment Distribution (100 RP)
--[] Intelligence Coding (20 RP Overflow)
This does a small detour towards Demonology to muzzle bongo, but otherwise it's all ship.
Especially it's focused on better ship weapons, which are completely missing from your choices.
I'm not sure we need both Nova Cannon techs at once, and I really want to get R&D done ASAP, so I don't like this much.
I really think ships should be the priority for the near future.
Somewhat agreed, though I reserve the right to drop everything for sanity modules if we find an alpha psyker.
Have a draft to work from.
Does fix up the shipyard and build 6 candles as a stopgap.
Adds some more shields to the psylab (so Cia stops blowing it up. Hopefully) to the Warp research lab and to the demon vault (so bongo actually can no longer scry us, the upgrade is only for new shields).
Muzzles bongo with demonology.
A lot of research for new and better ships with a focus on nova cannons.
Some more general ship research with LS-sized Machine spirits, abacus manu and cramming.
Slight manufactoring increase with superconductive manufactoring.
Spend a boon to get a diviner psyker.
[] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
-[] Idea: Ships! Ships now! We are shockingly vulnerable with only a single ship in orbit. Let's fix this. Short-term build some candles and longer term do research to design and build new and better ships with better weapons soon.
-[] Construction (600 VBP + 7800 Aetherion MS manus + 1,250 VBP (Voidforge Miners) = 9650 BP / 1000 BP Repair Bay / 500 Lift Capacity):
--[] Captive Holding cells (500/500) 41/50 HP -> 50/50 HP [45 BP Repair Bay]
--[] Aetherion Shipyard repair (2814 BP)
--[] Candle x 6 [use existing hulls to discount] (6000 BP)
---[] turn over all the candles to Denva Secundus, because we do not have the personnel for them
--[] Increase Warp research Lab Shielding from 400 to 465 (325 BP). Especially to get some scry blocking on it.
--[] Increase Bongo Shielding from 540 to 640 and also actually get some of that scrying blocking shielding in his vault (500 BP)
--[] 11 BP left
--[] 955 BP Repair Bay left, use for incoming damage on psychic shields due to demonology research
-[] Research x3 (600 + 85 (Anexa) + 60 (Anexa staff) = 745 RP)
--[] Demonology (100 RP)
---[] Anexa assist
--[] Gravity Weapons (200 RP)
--[] The Biggest Boom (150 RP)
--[] Large-Scale Machine Spirits (75 RP)
--[] Abacus Manufactoring (50/100 -> 100/100 RP)
--[] Superconductive Shenanigans (50 RP)
--[] Efficient Equipment Distribution (100 RP)
--[] Intelligence Coding (20 RP Overflow)
-[][Free] Turn over Abacus Technology, Improved Gellar Fields and star charts over to Denva to earn a boon
-[][Boon] Recruit a Diviner Psyker
-[] Anexa active Action: Research - assists a research action you take, granting +5xLevel RP to the action. Will level on a successful roll, scaled by the importance of the tech.
-[] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building - Defends against hostile covert action and improves relations with existing allies, as well as gathering information for making new allies. Will only level if something interesting happens.
-[] Cia: Assist with Demonology research. E.g. to "banish" demons before we figure out how
Interesting.
How about this for raising our RP output?
[] Plan Research Expansion
-[] [Repair Bay]
--[] 45 BP to repair the Captive Holding cells Psychic Shielding, 125 BP to expand the Basic Psychic Experimentation Psychic Shielding to 160 HP
-[] Voidforge Miners: build orbital machine spirit manufactories
-[] Research X 4 (800 RP base + 85 Anexa RP + 60 Anexa staff = 545 RP)
--[] Immaterium Understanding (200 RP)
--[] Collaberative Computational R&D (250 RP + 63 RP boost)
--[] Machine Spirit Hallucinations (300 RP + 75 RP boost)
--[] Intelligence Coding (57 RP)
-[] Anexa active action: Research
--[] Immaterium Understanding
-[] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building
-[] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
You should add overflow contingencies, if MSH applies from one action to the next.
If you want to study warp, then choose theory.
Discount on demonology. Discounts on Void Abacus and who knows if other branches will be affected, for example psitech.
[] Immaterium Understanding (200 RP) Anexa believes she understands something fundamental about the warp. Do some experimements to see if she's right. (Further discounts on all warp-related research, potential to unlock a research from farther down a warp research tree while skipping prerequisites)
Demonology is unlikely to be discounted much further. It's at 100RP.
I understand that, but we're constantly complaining about lack of internal module space in our main body, so upgrading our flagship to a Battleship would help with that. Plus it allows us to build Battleships...
...or does it? I know Vitae's special rules allow her to build a ship tier up from what we can build for HER main body, but does that allow her to build Battleships if we can only build at Grand Cruiser tier?
Well, either way, we'll want Advanced Materials. Too many useful things lie behind it, including better understanding Necron tech.
A refit would also do that, as would getting done with Bongo, and for much fewer RP and BP.
@Neablis do we need to use build/repair actions to gain the benefits of the new anti-scrying research?
Really not a fan of doing this without ether a boost or Anexa to avoid poor rolls.
I suspect we cannot redo the Spark's shielding without remaking the hull. Might be time for a new ship.
Okay new version of the research plan that deals with Bongo while not being a 4 research action plan.
[] Plan Research Expansion
-[] [Repair Bay]
--[] Update Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1000/2700 BP)
-[] Construction (600 BP base + 7800 BP Orbital Manufactories + 1250 BP Voidforge Miners = 9650 BP)
--[] finish updating Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1700/1700 BP)
--[] Update Vita's Core to new shielding standard (675 BP)
--[] 2814 Bp to finish repairing the shipyard
--[] 3000 Medium Humanized Machine-spirit Infantry Bots (300 BP)
--[] convert 2 destroyer hulls to Candles (2000 BP)
--[] build 15 orbital machine spirit manufactories (1920 BP)
--[] build 12 status pods to store the Necrons in (24 BP)
--[] 217 BP for Victan to use as bribes
-[] Research X 3 (600 RP base + 85 Anexa RP + 60 Anexa staff = 745 RP)
--[] Collaberative Computational R&D (250 RP + 63 RP boost)
--[] Machine Spirit Hallucinations (300 RP)
--[] Demonology (100 RP + 25 RP boost)
--[] Intelligence Coding (7 RP)
-[] Anexa active action: Research
--[] Machine Spirit Hallucinations
-[] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building
-[] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
We have to design an Advanced Technological Research Lab before we can build one, it's one of those things that keeps getting kicked down the road.
EDIT: changed the construction part of the plan
Might make sense to get MSH on a less research-focused plan, do some construction, then enjoy the bonus RP to multi-research on the next one.
How much favor would we gain from the psyker monastery if we gave them sanity modules? Could we get more psykers on our crew?
I really feel we should try to recruit a military officer. Cia up to now has acted more as a champion and NCO. I feel we need strategic planer to Cia's tactical operator.
We can get those from our Denva boons.
20 years of war and they don't have competent military brass? Do excuse me as I find that hard to believe.
They have been doing insurgency/counterinsurgency commanded by an intelligence officer. Very different from a war in space.
Okay, so if Denva is somewhat of a blank slate, we'll have to organize their military academies and training. I'm assuming we have all the benefits of all of Earth's ancient stuff, plus several thousand years of refinement in the DAOT.
So, Denva will need:
- Infantry Ground Warfare Academy (Infantry)
- Armored/Artillery Warfare Academy (Armored Warfare)
- Special Forces Academy (Special Forces)
- Aerospace? Fighter Academy (Atmospheric and Void Fighters, Bombers, small craft in general)
- Void Warfare Academy (large void ships)
- Logistics Command?
They've got Military Intelligence covered, or W does. Pass any files on that to her.
Anything else?
We have been told Vita's lack of experience will make attempts to create those difficult. Better to just give them tech, materials, and incentive, then let them organise themselves.
We still need to get warp comms, which is best done with ASM. For weaponry, I'd reccommend The Biggest Boom as having the best short term ROI, but lets not get carried away with it.
I think Gravity Weapons would be best because it applies to small weapons and provides a new axis of capability.
A thought, since we are giving the Denvans ships couldn't Vitcan go on his own to have a look at Primus with a Denvan crew on one of the new Candles? It's not like we need him on counter-intelligence, the cults have been crushed. This also has the benefit of allowing us to check in on Primus to see if it's in any way urgent without using a full AP.
I don't think we get to cheat on AP like that. That would probably count as an Order action.
