Time of the Gods: Into the Amber Age

mc2rpg · Feb 12, 2017

veekie said:
Pretty sure we can only shapeshift-push one animal aspect at a time, at least, without a higher level of shapeshifter(unfortunately ). Still Dog/Wolf aspect fits a different role, we're grooming this kid to help Saiga with the Bloody Man, so a Death From Above advantage is...significant. Plus side, it seems archery is not common in our region, so that's another advantage angle

Yeah I agree with your reasoning, I was just focusing on other possibilities if people decided they didn't like death from above. Honestly if we had no time concerns I might be pushing for a wolf god. I really am quite curious what kind of pack it would try to form. As is though the death from above build is just too useful and fills exactly what I wanted for countering the visions. I really am hoping that Saiga manages to add bear though.

[X] "I want..."
-[X] A child! (A child will consume a small amount of both parents' legends based on their initial strength, the child can be granted attributes at an ambrosia cost equal to the attribute score's legend cost, the child will be granted a limited assortment of natural skills, and the child can be granted two random traits, or a specific trait, by offering one ambrosia per set of traits)
--[X] Grant the child Aspect of Humanity - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Aspect of the Snowy Owl(Shapeshift) - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Elemental Affinity - Sky - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Spirit of Death - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Shrine 0->1 - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Shrine 1->2 - 2 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Avatar 0->1 - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Avatar 1->2 - 2 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Faith 0->1 - 0 Ambrosia(Humanity discount)
[X] Lend Saiga our shapeshifting mask for the conception.

veekie · Feb 12, 2017

Romv said:
Do we know what will be their Inherent Trait?

No idea since we've never done this before. Odds are it's either Water(ours), or Human(saiga's), though.

mc2rpg said:
I really am hoping that Saiga manages to add bear though.

Mmm, drop bears...

Omegahugger · Feb 12, 2017

Honestly, I really should be supporting the God Baby more than I am. This is basically our best shot at unlocking Goddess of Love we've had since we ascended...

veekie said:
No idea since we've never done this before. Odds are it's either Water(ours), or Human(saiga's), though.

Can't Gods have two Inherent Traits? Could add up to a Waterbaby.

veekie · Feb 12, 2017

Omegahugger said:
Can't Gods have two Inherent Traits? Could add up to a Waterbaby.

Could be.
We know Temples allow additional Inherent traits after all, and there's hinted to be other ways to get them.

For us, it was one base, one ascension trait(which probably would be picked from a narratively suitable combination of their traits...or rolled).

mc2rpg · Feb 12, 2017

veekie said:
No idea since we've never done this before. Odds are it's either Water(ours), or Human(saiga's), though.

I would kind of expect it to be owl or sky actually, unless some other synergistic combination comes out from Saiga's additions. Things that combine together to easily make up who the child is seem like they should make up the innate traits.

Powerofmind · Feb 12, 2017

Sivantic said:
It's a short update, but it promises to be a good one

This is one is good stuff, but it's the next one,

Questions, before we get to babies!
@Powerofmind I think it was implied we would explore Eastward, in the first voting stage. Is that still true?

How varied can our animal form be? Can we shapeshift into a frog for example?

You will explore AS NECESSARY to discover THE CONDITIONS YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, especially when you tacked on an Astrology bonus to help seek it out. That hardly is a guarantee the spirit you seek isn't already pantheon'd, or if they even exist on the island.

mc2rpg said:
Yes I see that, but looking at the previous post he made after the update it looks like we should be including traits we want in our vote. Only traits were mentioned, so I was curious. Also, that is the divine creature instruction.

Traits and Attributes (how else will you know what tier of attribute you will be paying for). And divine creature creation is nearly identical, save the legend you trickle out initially.

veekie said:
Took QUITE some doing finding the relevant ambrosia costs btw.

Had to look up how much ambrosia we had to use:

That is perfectly acceptable as a plan.

Omegahugger said:
[X] "I want..."
-[X] A hug! (Doesn't actually do anything, but makes @Omegahugger feel good)

The hug has been given, so sayeth GM.

mc2rpg said:
@Powerofmind if we let Saiga wear our shapeshifting mask would he be able to pick traits as well rather than having them be random?

Yes. You clever fellow, you.

Romv said:
Do we know what will be their Inherent Trait?

Nope!

Sivantic · Feb 12, 2017

Powerofmind said:
You will explore AS NECESSARY to discover THE CONDITIONS YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, especially when you tacked on an Astrology bonus to help seek it out. That hardly is a guarantee the spirit you seek isn't already pantheon'd, or if they even exist on the island.

But the original plan was to look for Usko Pantheon, with us hoping there is a plant spirit but not the focus of the explore?

veekie said:
No, Bird aspects grant flight ONLY if you have two traits contributing to it. A Bird Aspect + Sky affinity would work, a Bird aspect on it's own would not, UNLESS it was an Inherent benefit or a higher tier bird aspect.

It's a god-child. It gets full aspects

Since it costs 0 Ambrosia, it wouldn't hurt to try. Saiga would do it instead of us I guess?

Yes, we would and can request that.

Omegahugger said:
A: There are actually multiple sharks that are warm-blooded.
B: Your lack of [Divine] Sea-Pixie is appaling.

1 I realize that, but I couldn't find a better heading to put them in and was tired
2 That's going to be Gaelte aspect you dirty thief

Powerofmind said:
The hug has been given, so sayeth GM.

I believe he meant for Gaerig to ask for a hug, you goofy goober

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That would be adorable, Gaerig acting like a goshdarn cat, standoffish and destructive one moment, cuddly and needy the next

Powerofmind said:
Yes. You clever fellow, you.

Excellent!

Since my idea has been plain ignored, I present a new modified vote in light of new information!

[X] "I want..."
-[X] A hug!
-[X] A child!
--[X] Aspect of Snowy Owl
--[X] Aspect of Death
--[X] Elemental Affinity - Ice
--[X] Shrine 2
--[X] Avatar 2
--[X] Influence 1
-[X] Ask that he make the child more like him than us(Faith)
[X] "I want to give..."
-[X] Faces of the Moon
--[X] So that he too may decide how the baby is like.

Let's make it a literal Snowy Owl!

veekie · Feb 12, 2017

Sivantic said:
It's a god-child. It gets full aspects

It was the going info that two traits or inherent single trait is needed for flight, and a Sky EA is one of the best ones for not touching the bad prophecies. Yet to be contradicted.

We also know that flight speed increases the more sky type aspects there are of course, though it's less critical.

Omegahugger · Feb 12, 2017

You people wanting our hubby to wear a mask! What kind of deviance is this!?

No, his abs can stay right here where we can see them.

Sivantic said:
1 I realize that, but I couldn't find a better heading to put them in and was tired

Just put in the category "Ultimate Lifeforms" next to Turtles and Essence Drinkers.

Sivantic said:
2 That's going to be Gaelte aspect you dirty thief

Are you saying we can have too many Sea Pixies!?

Sivantic said:
I believe he meant for Gaerig to ask for a hug, you goofy goober.
That would be adorable, Gaerig acting like a goshdarn cat, standoffish and destructive one moment, cuddly and needy the next

Obviously PowerofMind explained that Gaerig came rushing out of the waters and tacklehugged Saiga upon arrival.

The resulting image is cute, and therefore it most be correct.

Athas · Feb 12, 2017

[X] Veekie

Sivantic · Feb 12, 2017

veekie said:
It was the going info that two traits or inherent single trait is needed for flight, and a Sky EA is one of the best ones for not touching the bad prophecies. Yet to be contradicted.

Nooo?

Powerofmind said:
As per AN from the original, even a demihuman with a pair of wind elements or two tiers of bird aspects could fly. This is merely a logical extension in the other direction.

Nothing about it having to be inherent. Aspect of Snowy Owl is all we need.

Omegahugger said:
Are you saying we can have too many Sea Pixies!?

I'm saying if a God shows up with it, Gaelte will feel cheated I think

Powerofmind · Feb 12, 2017

Sivantic said:
But the original plan was to look for Usko Pantheon, with us hoping there is a plant spirit but not the focus of the explore?

Ah, I was understandably lost on that discussion considering my lack of computer. I just assumed you wanted X. Well it doesn't hurt much to adjust before the fluff is even up, but please, I shouldn't have to say "I'm not AN" as many times as I have. Write-ins (to a degree like focusing efforts) aren't near-automatic poor votes like he would consider them.

Calanor · Feb 12, 2017

Powerofmind said:
Ah, I was understandably lost on that discussion considering my lack of computer. I just assumed you wanted X. Well it doesn't hurt much to adjust before the fluff is even up, but please, I shouldn't have to say "I'm not AN" as many times as I have. Write-ins (to a degree like focusing efforts) aren't near-automatic poor votes like he would consider them.

Well, I probably should have made it explicit in my plan and can't speak for all the voters, but my primary intention for the exploration actions was indeed to search for a plant spirit. That was in accordance with the winning Turn 27 plan when we explicitly asked Saiga and Saitev for help in the plant spirit search. I saw meeting more Usko spirits and looking eastwards as a likely consequence and side-effect, but not primary intention.

I believe the explicit focus on the Usko and eastwards exploration was only in the nullified Turn 28 plan.

veekie · Feb 12, 2017

Calanor said:
Well, I probably should have made it explicit in my plan and can't speak for all the voters, but my primary intention for the exploration actions was indeed to search for a plant spirit. That was in accordance with the winning Turn 27 plan when we explicitly asked Saiga and Saitev for help in the plant spirit search. I saw meeting more Usko spirits and looking eastwards as a likely consequence and side-effect, but not primary intention.

I believe the explicit focus on the Usko and eastwards exploration was only in the nullified Turn 28 plan.

Same here.

Powerofmind · Feb 12, 2017

Well I'll just toss up my hands and walk away dreadfully confused then.

Varano · Feb 12, 2017

[X] "I want..."
-[X] A child! (A child will consume a small amount of both parents' legends based on their initial strength, the child can be granted attributes at an ambrosia cost equal to the attribute score's legend cost, the child will be granted a limited assortment of natural skills, and the child can be granted two random traits, or a specific trait, by offering one ambrosia per set of traits)
--[X] Grant the child Aspect of Humanity - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Aspect of the Snowy Owl(Shapeshift) - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Elemental Affinity - Sky - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Spirit of Death - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Shrine 0->1 - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Shrine 1->2 - 2 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Avatar 0->1 - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Avatar 1->2 - 2 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Faith 0->1 - 0 Ambrosia(Humanity discount)

mc2rpg · Feb 12, 2017

Everyone that voted for plan veekie should include a bit to let Saiga borrow our shapeshifting mask. I went with

[ ] Lend Saiga our shapeshifting mask for the conception.

Omegahugger · Feb 12, 2017

[X] "I want..."
-[X] A child! (A child will consume a small amount of both parents' legends based on their initial strength, the child can be granted attributes at an ambrosia cost equal to the attribute score's legend cost, the child will be granted a limited assortment of natural skills, and the child can be granted two random traits, or a specific trait, by offering one ambrosia per set of traits)
--[X] Grant the child Aspect of Humanity - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Aspect of the Snowy Owl(Shapeshift) - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Elemental Affinity - Sky - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Spirit of Death - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Shrine 0->1 - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Shrine 1->2 - 2 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Avatar 0->1 - 1 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Avatar 1->2 - 2 Ambrosia
--[X] Grant the child Faith 0->1 - 0 Ambrosia(Humanity discount)

Because how can we unlock Goddess of Love if we cannot see our Lover's form?

mc2rpg · Feb 12, 2017

Omegahugger said:
Because how can we unlock Goddess of Love if we cannot see our Lover's form?

Well you definitely can't get it by not loving your husband enough to let him use your toys or influence your child. I guess you just don't have enough love in your heart!

Omegahugger · Feb 12, 2017

mc2rpg said:
Well you definitely can't get it by not loving your husband enough to let him use your toys or influence your child. I guess you just don't have enough love in your heart!

But at the same time you are saying you want him to change! You are a loveless and monsterless being that cannot accept our husband for the Spirit he is, only what you want him to be!

... True, he would probably be more handsome with a few tentacles or a nice shell, but that's neither here nor there!

Sivantic · Feb 12, 2017

I talk too much don't I?

There doesn't seem to be any discussion on different god childs or anything but copy paste of the same plan ;_;

Heck I already outlined why it doesn't need Sky and how we can't give it Faith, but it's still there...

Omegahugger · Feb 12, 2017

Sivantic said:
I talk too much don't I?

There doesn't seem to be any discussion on different god childs or anything but copy paste of the same plan ;_;

Heck I already outlined why it doesn't need Sky and how we can't give it Faith, but it's still there...

I considered throwing a vote your way, but sadly you too chose to hide away Saiga's face. Omegahugger's monofocus is active currently, to the detriment of all.
I do prefer your voting of that part though compared to mc2rpg's.

Also, most of the "what God should we create" discussion happened earlier, which is why most people just stick to what they decided back then.

Sivantic · Feb 12, 2017

Omegahugger said:
I considered throwing a vote your way, but sadly you too chose to hide away Saiga's face. Omegahugger's monofocus is active currently, to the detriment of all.
I do prefer your voting of that part though compared to mc2rpg's.

Also, most of the "what God should we create" discussion happened earlier, which is why most people just stick to what they decided back then.

Well that's simple, just vote for the build then.

That's why I left the mask apart from build so that people can cherry pick what they like.

This is hardly a plan vote. Go ahead and add or remove whatever you like. There doesn' t seem to be limit in actions so ask for stuff, give stuff, sing a song in Saiga's honor, anything.

Baby making doesn't have to be the only part of this interaction.

Abby Normal · Feb 12, 2017

[X] Any plan with an assured faith god child

(i'm sick and sad right now, thats about the level of specificity i care right now :/ )

Terrabrand · Feb 12, 2017

[X] Sivantic

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