If they screw with our villagers, Saiga is obligated to defend them.
Time of the Gods: Into the Amber Age
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If they screw with our villagers, Saiga is obligated to defend them.
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Saiga still has to be in our village for that to happen.
And I don't think he has a shrine in our village so he cant teleport here. (Did we ever let him build one here? I don't recall us letting that happen.
We've seen it work. Its not a ritual. Its a Second Magic artillery piece.
Its one of the better outcomes really.
We share pop mod with Saiga now. If she damages either of us we both feel it.
Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
Does it? Nothing stops us from slapping down blessings and then fleeing in the worst case, and we'll have fear income from our attack to spend.
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Well that's fucking simple then.
Grab her neck and fucking snap it before she can use it...
or dodge.
Its a homing weapon. Seski discovered that for us. Its a line of sight weapon too since it fires sunlight.
As such if we're fighting it, we WILL destroy our pop mod. Spirits and gods fighting is not kind to mortals in the area.
I think it is an open question which is better. Yes, if we attack directly than we have the initiative - but then the Crone has the home-ground advantage. If we defend, the opposite holds.
I am honestly now concerned about this. We know that Pop is easy to recover when it is this low, so unless the Crone does something MASSIVE it shouldn't screw us over. Inconvenience us, yes; but that would have been the case any time she did pop damage to us.
I wouldn't count on fear income; most of the attack DE is going in to boosting stuff, with only a small number of actual attacks. I wouldn't be surprised if we found ourselves far under the DE cap, especially conditioning on the scenario where we didn't win in the first place.
As for slapping down blessings and fleeing - well, for one thing we might not have the sustenance, and for another thing that means we have to spend a bunch of energy running away and whatnot instead of churning blessings.
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You know what?
Can we just demand that our villagers eject the crone and her cronies from the premises if she tries to enter the village, and do so on pain of Tsunami?
@ninjafish - you should put x's in your plan at some point.
If the Crone comes to attack us, we will probably meet her near our holy place - and I don't think there are bystanders there.
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We also have no melee, if we used elemental attacks we could disperse her, but if this was a prepared thing then she might get her hit in.
Honestly, probably not.
I mean, we can try - but the best we can hope for is to have our people get into a conflict with the crone. The crone could then try resolving it via social, and possibly/probably win; she would have something like +10 weak bonus and +2 strong bonus relative to untrained civilians in her social checks, if not more.
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yes, and once again, her weapon was meant for a spirit, with a much less powerful avatar.
not a goddess nearing the limit of what her avatar can be.
i'm pretty sure were strong enough that we can overpower through brute force without any actual skill if it comes down to it.
Combined with the autosucess from spirit vs god and the crone herself having no melee, we will win that fight.
the question then is, is her social-fu enough to defeat the fear of imminent death by drowning and smashing via tsunami?
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Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
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That's doesn't matter if the boosting actions also contribute to Vehmence, which they seem like they would.
Doubt we won't have the sustenance, given it's an otherwise pure influence turn. We don't need to budget three fleeing actions anyways, it's additional insurance for the worst case scenario, not an existential threat.
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- Australia
What exactly is the point of this? Like what's the end game of doing this?
I wouldn't mind it. Personally I wanted to be the Hermes/Mercury equivalent and that seems like a bust now. Being the equivalent of all the water forever would be pretty great I guess.
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I demand octopod aspect if we get birdy aspect.
fluffy feathery tentacles.
Also irony of ironies, the one time I advocate not being a bloodthirsty lunatic.... everyone else is hankering for some blood.
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Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
Fenrir was far too strong to chain physically, so the Norse gods bound him with magic.
This doesn't really matter if it's not physical damage. She didn't disperse Saiga, did she? She bound him with magic fuckery.
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She bound him with domination.
That's a social mechanic we've known about since the original amber age.
I've seen no evidence of any other mystical fuckery involved.
also the crone still has to successfully use her weapon, and she has to trigger it manually.
So it's simple, beat her to death before that can happen.
or, you know, just have our subjects keep her out of the village entirely.
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Edited plan, no longer need to make mortals stall the crone, Goddess sought fucks her over without any of that.
DE used: 82 (blessing)+5 (inspiration) + 20 (Calm) + 24 (Call fish) + 14 (Guide and Bounty) + 16 (Future reading actions) + 15 (Study ???) +5 (Fox Meeting) = 181 (Getting conflicting info about how much DE we have, can easily strip 4 de from blessings if needed)
Sustenance used: 27.5 +4.5 maintenance = 31
[X] Plan: Grow! Grow! Grow!
[X] Bless Petitioner for Sacrifices - Expend some of your DE to empower those who come to your shrine or pray to you in exahange for more offerings. Current Skills that can be blessed: Astrology, Omen Reading, Mysticism, Navigation, Perform (Trickery), Fishing, Leadership, Innovation, Survival.
-[X] Expend <15> DE on petitioners for Leadership.
[X] Bless Petitioner for Growth - Expend some of your DE to empower those who come to your shrine or pray to you, granting them a bounty of life-giving things. Current Skills that can be blessed: Navigation, Fishing, Survival.
-[X] Expend <52> DE on petitioners for Fishing.
-[X] Expend <15> DE on petitioners for Navigation
[X] Inspire Petitioner - Navigation
[X] Control Waters*** - You have innate lordship of water and all it's forms, but you have especially strong ties to The Sea. Costs: 10 DE
-[X] Calm seas. x2
[X] Direct Fish** - You direct fish to or away from your domain, having knowledge of the temperatures and currents that they prefer. Costs: 12 DE
-[X] Call Fish. x2
[X] Produce a mortal child
-[X] Contribute <22> Legend to sire an Ur-child (Maximum 10*Shrine Attribute or 50% of unspent legend, whichever is lower)
-[X] Contribute <8> Sustenance per trait.
[X] Lay with Greenland Shark
-[X] Contribute <8> Sustenance per trait.
[X] Guide Ships - Guide and navigate the boats in person, sending them where they need to be. Costs: 6 DE
[X] Give Bounty - Seek fish and sea creatures to capture and give to mortals. Costs: 8 DE
[X] Study Stars - Study the skies and stars, seeking patterns that will tell you what was, what is, and what may yet be.
-[X] Read the Future - Look forward to what has not yet been, but may yet be. Will aid you in a number of ways during the turn, and warn you of potential dangers. Costs: 8 DE
[X] Study Omens - Study the thrown bones, the light of the sun upon the clouds, and the entrails of the dead that will explain to you the results of your choices.
-[X] Read the Bones - Read the best way to do the things you wish done with the crafted bones. Will aid you in a number of ways during the turn, and reduce potential backlash. Costs: 8 DE
[X] Study World - Examining the signs and functions of the world, you may determine how things are they way they are.
-[X] Study the ??? Action. Costs: 15 DE
[X] Meet with the Fox Spirit properly, now that you have proven your superiority as cleverest of all. Costs: 0.5 Sustenance, 5 DE (One time)
[X] Play with Seski
Also, just noticed, that madness is back on the upgrade table... You will not escape the madness SV, I will have my day of Purple!
DE used: 82 (blessing)+5 (inspiration) + 20 (Calm) + 24 (Call fish) + 14 (Guide and Bounty) + 16 (Future reading actions) + 15 (Study ???) +5 (Fox Meeting) = 181 (Getting conflicting info about how much DE we have, can easily strip 4 de from blessings if needed)
Sustenance used: 27.5 +4.5 maintenance = 31
[X] Plan: Grow! Grow! Grow!
[X] Bless Petitioner for Sacrifices - Expend some of your DE to empower those who come to your shrine or pray to you in exahange for more offerings. Current Skills that can be blessed: Astrology, Omen Reading, Mysticism, Navigation, Perform (Trickery), Fishing, Leadership, Innovation, Survival.
-[X] Expend <15> DE on petitioners for Leadership.
[X] Bless Petitioner for Growth - Expend some of your DE to empower those who come to your shrine or pray to you, granting them a bounty of life-giving things. Current Skills that can be blessed: Navigation, Fishing, Survival.
-[X] Expend <52> DE on petitioners for Fishing.
-[X] Expend <15> DE on petitioners for Navigation
[X] Inspire Petitioner - Navigation
[X] Control Waters*** - You have innate lordship of water and all it's forms, but you have especially strong ties to The Sea. Costs: 10 DE
-[X] Calm seas. x2
[X] Direct Fish** - You direct fish to or away from your domain, having knowledge of the temperatures and currents that they prefer. Costs: 12 DE
-[X] Call Fish. x2
[X] Produce a mortal child
-[X] Contribute <22> Legend to sire an Ur-child (Maximum 10*Shrine Attribute or 50% of unspent legend, whichever is lower)
-[X] Contribute <8> Sustenance per trait.
[X] Lay with Greenland Shark
-[X] Contribute <8> Sustenance per trait.
[X] Guide Ships - Guide and navigate the boats in person, sending them where they need to be. Costs: 6 DE
[X] Give Bounty - Seek fish and sea creatures to capture and give to mortals. Costs: 8 DE
[X] Study Stars - Study the skies and stars, seeking patterns that will tell you what was, what is, and what may yet be.
-[X] Read the Future - Look forward to what has not yet been, but may yet be. Will aid you in a number of ways during the turn, and warn you of potential dangers. Costs: 8 DE
[X] Study Omens - Study the thrown bones, the light of the sun upon the clouds, and the entrails of the dead that will explain to you the results of your choices.
-[X] Read the Bones - Read the best way to do the things you wish done with the crafted bones. Will aid you in a number of ways during the turn, and reduce potential backlash. Costs: 8 DE
[X] Study World - Examining the signs and functions of the world, you may determine how things are they way they are.
-[X] Study the ??? Action. Costs: 15 DE
[X] Meet with the Fox Spirit properly, now that you have proven your superiority as cleverest of all. Costs: 0.5 Sustenance, 5 DE (One time)
[X] Play with Seski
Also, just noticed, that madness is back on the upgrade table... You will not escape the madness SV, I will have my day of Purple!
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Can the crone even reach us? With "The Goddess Sought", the crone will have to pass a survival or navigation check against our 9 trickery to find us, but it appears that she has neither skill.
If she can't reach us, her laser artillery is rather useless, as the only way she can fight us will be on our terms. Solar power isn't very useful in the dead of night on a new moon.
If she can't reach us, her laser artillery is rather useless, as the only way she can fight us will be on our terms. Solar power isn't very useful in the dead of night on a new moon.
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oh yeah... that's pretty neat.
So were pretty much invulnerable to crone fuckery anyway.
Still would like to have our villagers troll her though.
With help from Saiga or Saitev, possibly. Her odds aren't great, and they get worse if we're running moonlight and our own astrology.
So, basically only likely to be attempted if she's desperate.
Which she very well might be.
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I'm pretty sure we can fuck up her chances even more with some trickery buffed mortals in the way.
Yes. That is how social contests work.
Moonlight definitely shouldn't grant any VE. Have you seen the description for it? It literally makes the moon glow a bit brighter.
The Nox thing might contriute its own VE, yes. But at 4 DE per VE, I'm not sure how far it would take us.
Not a fan. Even having our villagers stand guard is pushing it; this is just too much.
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why?
Also the goddess sought pretty much eliminates the crones ability to reach us anyway.
so I'm gonna remove it.
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