DimensionalGuy
Lazy Bastard
- Location
- Sweden
[X] Li Suyin: The proper paperwork is done. You can do the expedition any time. Who knows what you might find, deep below the earth.
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
- Start date
- Original Users' Choice!
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I did suggest that was the case, and then got shouted down.
- Location
- At the end of the world
It means that he was there multiple times, maybe even looted the dream for blessings from both sides. Can we try again than? Even if we can't gain more bonuses it's still an opportunity for LQ to defeat her fear.
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"There will be no more offers" probably means no offers to run the Dream over again.
Chances are he was only able to do replays because of his Bloody Moon patronage.
- Location
- France
[X] Li Suyin: The proper paperwork is done. You can do the expedition any time. Who knows what you might find, deep below the earth.
Ah what a choice! I would like to do all three but unfortunately, we can't. So Xuan Shi will have to wait a month again, once Zhengui will be awake, and the household staff won't meet the sole cultivator of the house while arriving :/.
Ah what a choice! I would like to do all three but unfortunately, we can't. So Xuan Shi will have to wait a month again, once Zhengui will be awake, and the household staff won't meet the sole cultivator of the house while arriving :/.
- Location
- United Kingdom
I don't really get why people are seeing the Mum option as micromanaging. Ideally I'd be voting for her, as I believe being there to greet the first members of our household staff is pretty important, but the votes close enough I should probably vote strategically.
[X] Li Suyin: The proper paperwork is done. You can do the expedition any time. Who knows what you might find, deep below the earth.
[X] Li Suyin: The proper paperwork is done. You can do the expedition any time. Who knows what you might find, deep below the earth.
Of course it wasn't "winnable", if by that you mean "everyone doesn't die".
That doesn't mean that there weren't choices that Ling Qi would be happier with in regards to her personal conduct.
NaanContributor
Provider of delicious flatbread, and nothing else.
- Location
- Hawaii
[X] Li Suyin: The proper paperwork is done. You can do the expedition any time. Who knows what you might find, deep below the earth.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
There is a significant risk of Suyin being a big girl and doing the quest alone, though.
Also, considering that a significant portion of people voting for Xuan Shi SL have done so for 'Tomb Raiding' or 'Trial rewards', well... I don't think the material rewards are all in Suyin's SL. Suying is going to do her project anyway, no matter what Ling Qi does, after all.
Suyin is also the only one of Ling Qi's friend that has never had an event centred on her in the first thread. Su Ling had one, Meizhen had one, Xiulan had one... but not Suyin. There has been significant push backs when it comes to "doing stuff with Suyin", and I think that having a quest with her will be a novel experience.
I don't think those were obvious, though. Obviously having Ling Qi not doubting herself would have helped, but Yrsillar basically said that any choices when meeting the King would have led to Trauma.
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- Location
- At the end of the world
Maybe you are right, but we don't know for sure. I still can't cease the thought that we can gain more from that Dream later, Moon is everchanging after all, maybe not know but later we will have our chance.
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
[X] Li Suyin: The proper paperwork is done. You can do the expedition any time. Who knows what you might find, deep below the earth.
If I remember correctly, last time there were arguments last time both in forum and in discord that dismissed the Suyin SL as just another escort quest and her a typical escort target. I think there was also something about people wanting her to be green, so she wont be a burden (which btw. rather defeats the point of this SL).
This time it is a bit better, but this time it is something about her being 'boring', 'we dont have obligations to her' and it seems to me that a simple 'but we owe him' is enough to make people vote for Xuan Shi, while Suyin needed several posts full of arguments to be competetive.
I do realize that using the catch-all word 'people' during my complaints isnt quite correct, because many voters dont even engage in this debate while others are perfectly fine with discussing their opinion, but I dont have another one so I'm going to use it anyways
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I mean, I disagree with the way you framed it, but in terms of pure solo adventure events you're technically correct. Even if Suyin ate up an absolutely huge amount of SL investment throughout the first thread. The only person to get more was literally Meizhen.
I mean if you can cite an example of such, I'll concede the point but I was in those discussions as well and I recall no such thing. If anything there was bitching about it making AE relevant again, not bitching about investing in Suyin's SL.
Edit: Ah, I recall the breakthrough argument. It wasnt "She'd be a burden" it was "If she's Green we can get even more loot per run!" which was kinda dismissed because we could do one while Suyin was still Second Realm and again later on for more loot regardless.
Then tack on a qualifier or go with "Some individuals"
English is a crazy inconsistent language, but it is robust in it's lexicon compared to most others
There you go, no more need to use words incorrectly to turn your argument into a strawman.
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- Location
- United States of America
So, I'm slightly disheartened by the amount of vitriol that is revolving around this vote. An understandable amount given people's passion for the quest, but a disheartening amount still.
As such, I'm going to make the argument for the Li Suyin vote. Not in the negative, which is an incredibly weak argument tactic given that since this is a meta vote whichever one wins is the one available while the other options will not have occurred yet, but in the positive. Why there are some really cool synergies by Meta-choosing Li Suyin's option now rather than later.
And this is the relevant part that I'm going to be talking about.
This is the month that we are going all in on Music. We have something like... 13 actions devoted to Music, an expensive music pill, learning 2 new music arts. Even more may be devoted to music if we also choose to go down the dreaming moon route. Like this is music month, and going on an adventure with some intent to create poems or songs just seems like a fun thing to do when our entire cultivation is focused on music.
While we could make music out of the other options as well, this one seems most suited for the creation of music through adventure given that Sixiang has already primed us for it.
This has the potential to be some prime material for a good song. Exploring with a trusted friend, back to back facing off against the mindless horrors of the deep in search of riches and reagents. Facing off against the demons of the earth and securing advancement in knowledge and materials from our victories.
So I say vote for Li Suyin, and let's make a wonderful song about our adventure into the bowels of the earth!
As such, I'm going to make the argument for the Li Suyin vote. Not in the negative, which is an incredibly weak argument tactic given that since this is a meta vote whichever one wins is the one available while the other options will not have occurred yet, but in the positive. Why there are some really cool synergies by Meta-choosing Li Suyin's option now rather than later.
And this is the relevant part that I'm going to be talking about.
This is the month that we are going all in on Music. We have something like... 13 actions devoted to Music, an expensive music pill, learning 2 new music arts. Even more may be devoted to music if we also choose to go down the dreaming moon route. Like this is music month, and going on an adventure with some intent to create poems or songs just seems like a fun thing to do when our entire cultivation is focused on music.
While we could make music out of the other options as well, this one seems most suited for the creation of music through adventure given that Sixiang has already primed us for it.
This has the potential to be some prime material for a good song. Exploring with a trusted friend, back to back facing off against the mindless horrors of the deep in search of riches and reagents. Facing off against the demons of the earth and securing advancement in knowledge and materials from our victories.
So I say vote for Li Suyin, and let's make a wonderful song about our adventure into the bowels of the earth!
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Well, I mean, yes, she probably would go herself. She'll just play things much more safely and not go as far if we're not there.
It's not as if this is a thing that can only be done once. It's more about us not leaving our friend hanging, and helping her advance faster.
To be fair, going on about the mysteries and discoveries of a strange, sealed temple are equally valid inspirations for Song. The medium is kind of crazy that way.
[X] Li Suyin: The proper paperwork is done. You can do the expedition any time. Who knows what you might find, deep below the earth.
If I recall correctly, the turn's plan has Ling Qi de-equipping AE. I doubt anybody is willing to go to bat and spam the thread to get AE back into Ling Qi's standard equipped arts again, or even get it trained.
So, as someone who likes AE but isn't willing to fight for it, recreating the beginning of AE's story with Suyin is the last gasp of AE for this quest. While yrsillar might not explicitly write out the parallels between descending into the depths of the earth to meet ravenous monsters and the nameless wanderer's journey beneath the earth, it is still probably more likely than with Xiang Shi's puzzle temple.
If I recall correctly, the turn's plan has Ling Qi de-equipping AE. I doubt anybody is willing to go to bat and spam the thread to get AE back into Ling Qi's standard equipped arts again, or even get it trained.
So, as someone who likes AE but isn't willing to fight for it, recreating the beginning of AE's story with Suyin is the last gasp of AE for this quest. While yrsillar might not explicitly write out the parallels between descending into the depths of the earth to meet ravenous monsters and the nameless wanderer's journey beneath the earth, it is still probably more likely than with Xiang Shi's puzzle temple.
Black Noise
Curious
- Location
- About 1AU from Sol
Worth noting that loot considerations are sort-of missing the point, main focus is (or should be) Bond advancement:
EDIT: kinda puts Sixiang in context; "anything truly problematic" indeed.Turn 1 end said:
- Location
- United States of America
And I did say that the other options had the potential for songs in my post. However, none of the other options have primed us for the potential to create a song like this one has.
Sure, but you probably should have quoted the other guy when making that point. It implies that you think that I was making the loot argument when I really wasn't.
