Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Worship can include punishing the deity in question by proxy. This was a whole thing historically.

Once you are saying that the religious practices of the Romans and Greeks don't consist of worship you have gone seriously astray.
They are not doing that either.
There is no intent in the actions of the people abandoning children, no purpose.
To classify what is happening as, worship, cult, or anykind of religious activity requires a very, stretched, use of the words in question.
 
Unironically, Religious Activity is activity that involves a god or spirit and the more it involves a god or spirit, the more religious activity-y it is.
 
Unironically, Religious Activity is activity that involves a god or spirit and the more it involves a god or spirit, the more religious activity-y it is.
So anytime we talk to our son, one of younger sisters, or the voice that lives inside our head, we are engaging in religion.
Same for when we are wearing our clothes...

The term is rapidly loosing all its meaning.
 
So anytime we talk to our son, one of younger sisters, or the voice that lives in our head, we are engaging in religion.
Same for when we are wearing our clothes...

The term is rapidly loosing all its meaning.

From the mortal perspective our sectmates are a bunch of young divinities being instructed in what they need to learn in order to be part of divine society. As such any mortal interacting with someone in LQ's social circle is having a religious (and rather dangerous) experience. This divinity would absolutely be extended to powerful, active spirits like Madame Grey

From a noble perspective, "divinity" (Shen) is a property that Cyan+ cultivators possess that sets them apart from their weaker fellows. Under this interpretation Madame Grey is divine and LQ isn't. Su Ling's and Ling Qi's confrontation with her would probably be counted as a Tribulation.

From a real world theological perspective, Madame Grey is a Hu Xian (Fox Immortal), which is also the name for a god. Killing her kids would be like crucifying not!Jesus: it has religious relevance (which the Romans were aware there was a possibility of in the Bible, thus the meeting with Pontius Pilate).

From a anthropological perspective, the local villagers are declaring orphans of missing fathers "children of Madame Grey" and abandoning or violently beating them. Scientists believe that this is a corruption of an earlier tradition where the "Fox-Blooded" were the priest caste of the area who were known for traveling through the wilderness to perform their duties, among other things. There is speculation that the modern Diao are the descendants of these figures, having abandoned their traditions at the behest of their once liege lords, the Hui.
 
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So anytime we talk to our son, one of younger sisters, or the voice that lives inside our head, we are engaging in religion.
Same for when we are wearing our clothes...

The term is rapidly loosing all its meaning.
The voice that lives in her head that is a spirit created/part of and basically sent to her by the great spirit/goddess whose strictures she follows? Literally the only reason to NOT see it as religious activity is aesthetics.
 
The voice that lives in her head that is a spirit created/part of and basically sent to her by the great spirit/goddess whose strictures she follows? Literally the only reason to NOT see it as religious activity is aesthetics.
At this level there is nothing we do that is not religious, there is no point in trying to divide something as religious or not, because there is no meaning to the word anymore.
Technically accurate, sure, but also useless for communicating.
 
At this level there is nothing we do that is not religious, there is no point in trying to divide something as religious or not, because there is no meaning to the word anymore.
Technically accurate, sure, but also useless for communicating.
Even if i agreed with you, that's not "useless for communicating" that's "useless for communicating in a small subset of uses." "Religious activity becomes increasingly meaningless when you're talking about cultivators" still leaves it perfectly useful for communicating in 99% of cases, Ling Qi personally just is gonna be mostly enmeshed in that edge case. But that's irrelevant for the original usage you complained about, where it communicates fine, you just don't like what it communicates and think it should communicate something else.
 
Okay, I think there may be some conflating of religious activities (rituals or rites) and a spiritual experience. A religious activity has a structure and intent to it while a spiritual experience doesn't necessarily have to. The party in Zhengui's garden would be a religious activity and potentially a spiritual experience. Us talking with Sixiang can be counted as a spiritual experience but isn't necessarily a religious activity, there's no structure or intent of worship when we do it. If a child is spirited away is that a religious activity? No, it's a very dangerous spiritual one.

Now bringing that back to Madame Grey and the fox children. Is there worship of a deity, a cult performing religious rites and activities? I think that's a tough question that requires another question. From who's perspective? From Joe schmo villager no it's not, it's almost entirely worldly. A friend or family member is killed by essentially a wild animal and then a kid is dropped on there doorstep. They either don't want or can't take care of them so they are abandoned and/or abused by everyone else.

From the fox's perspective there is most definitely a cult and worship going on, they just don't tell anyone that they are a part of it or participating in the rituals.
 
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@yrsillar how different are high tier body cultivators and their cultivation from the more spiritual path that Ling Qi is tending towards? For that matter, are they rarer than spiritually-tilted cultivators? It seems (though I could be wrong) like most green+ cultivators we meet lean towards spirit as opposed to body.
 
the empire does bias somewhat toward spirit at the higher levels but its not a massive tilt. Body cultivators are different mostly in having more inwardly focused domains. Of the elders you've seen fight for example, Yongrui is a physical spec.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Elsecaller on Mar 7, 2022 at 12:05 PM, finished with 152 posts and 80 votes.
 
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Nice.
 
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