Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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NoxOfUmbra
Shadow of the night
- Location
- Colombia, South América
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
[X] To journey and seek knowledge is virtue unto itself
This without even doubting.
This without even doubting.
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- Location
- US
Now thatsa spicy chapter!
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
For relationship changes I think we have:
Argent Sect: -1
Imperial Moderates and Conservatives in the Wang and Luo holdings: -1
Weilu Moderates under Wang and Luo: +1
Old Tribes under Luo: +1
Meng and Bao: +1
That -3 under Imperial Conservatives in particular is a bit concerning, since that's the level where enemies start actually moving against you.
Argent Sect: -1
Imperial Moderates and Conservatives in the Wang and Luo holdings: -1
Weilu Moderates under Wang and Luo: +1
Old Tribes under Luo: +1
Meng and Bao: +1
That -3 under Imperial Conservatives in particular is a bit concerning, since that's the level where enemies start actually moving against you.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I kinda get it, that is pretty funny.
Heh, well done. Shenhua decided to not step in, and Ren successfully asserted herself to the rest of the court. I bet she was quite happy to see that.
Yep, this is really driving it in. We are locked in, we are exiting what can be very liberally called The Kiddie Pool, and entering our adult lives early. The continued success of our diplomatic efforts is now our life's #1 Priority.
If the front page is otherwise up to date, the net change is:
- Argent Sect 3 -> 2
- Imperial Conservatives -2 -> -3
- Imperial Moderates 0 -> -1
- Weilu Moderates 1 -> 2
- Old Tribes 2 -> 3
- Meng -1 -> 0
- Bao 1 -> 2
plz plz plz gub headpats so we can memez instead of dwelling on how terrifying Shenhua is
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- Location
- foraging for beans
[] To journey and seek knowledge is virtue unto itself
It's very Hidden Moon, but the journeying and seeking also builds on the themes of motion, movement, and growth from the SCS insight and in LFotWT. I very much like it for these reasons.
It also pairs nicely with becoming a diplomat to a foreign polity, but I don't really think that this is a great reason to vote for it. Jiao did tell LQ that binding her insights to her job was maybe not the best idea.
It's very Hidden Moon, but the journeying and seeking also builds on the themes of motion, movement, and growth from the SCS insight and in LFotWT. I very much like it for these reasons.
It also pairs nicely with becoming a diplomat to a foreign polity, but I don't really think that this is a great reason to vote for it. Jiao did tell LQ that binding her insights to her job was maybe not the best idea.
- Location
- CA
[] The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming
Hmm, this is an interesting Insight. Higher realms stagnate because they become manifestations of a set perspective on the world, so this feels unusually flexible. And if it's joining "One person's desires cannot, alone, make a home nor a family," "Even walking alone, footfalls echo beyond your hearing," then flexibility and consideration of others become 3/7 of Ling Qi's current Domain--add "There is no peace in emptiness, no content in stillness. Stagnation is death; act, change, move, think, and grow until the very end" and change and adaptation have a parliamentary majority.
The main thing I'm curious about is, how much self-doubt and how much reconsideration are allowed in a high-level Domain? Does this flexibility weaken the structure, or does it simply make it more able to withstand shaking?
Currently I'm strongly supporting this one, but I'm definitely willing to be convinced.
Hmm, this is an interesting Insight. Higher realms stagnate because they become manifestations of a set perspective on the world, so this feels unusually flexible. And if it's joining "One person's desires cannot, alone, make a home nor a family," "Even walking alone, footfalls echo beyond your hearing," then flexibility and consideration of others become 3/7 of Ling Qi's current Domain--add "There is no peace in emptiness, no content in stillness. Stagnation is death; act, change, move, think, and grow until the very end" and change and adaptation have a parliamentary majority.
The main thing I'm curious about is, how much self-doubt and how much reconsideration are allowed in a high-level Domain? Does this flexibility weaken the structure, or does it simply make it more able to withstand shaking?
Currently I'm strongly supporting this one, but I'm definitely willing to be convinced.
I think it's safe to say we've established our crew as people to watch at Court *smug hissing*
While something to pay attention to, 20% of one faction and 10% of another aren't something to be too alarmed about. The -1 of the Diao which primarily is Diao Linqin is more concerning to me as having a prism give you the stink eye is not great.
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They are at -1 and not -2 tho.
- Location
- Europe
Yeah, I've been waiting for her to say something like this. I'm pretty sure this principle is why she met Renxiang when she was young, even when it hurt her it was her true desire.
[] The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming
This one is interesting... my initial response is where does this even come from? It feels more like a "we didn't cultivate CDP" insight than a "we did cultivate RME" one.
But... I feel like it's potentially relevant to our heart demon? Like, I feel like some of LQ's issues here revolve very much around her getting very worried about the future. Will making that promise to Zhengui limit herself too much in some unknown future event? Will things with Renxiang really turn out fine? I feel like part of problem is a desire to be perfect, even when dealing with unknowns - so when thinks start happening she's not entirely comfortable with she makes them out to be more dangerous than they really are.
A "you can't perfectly predict the future, so just make the best decision you can right now" insight could potentially be helpful in this regard?
This one is interesting... my initial response is where does this even come from? It feels more like a "we didn't cultivate CDP" insight than a "we did cultivate RME" one.
But... I feel like it's potentially relevant to our heart demon? Like, I feel like some of LQ's issues here revolve very much around her getting very worried about the future. Will making that promise to Zhengui limit herself too much in some unknown future event? Will things with Renxiang really turn out fine? I feel like part of problem is a desire to be perfect, even when dealing with unknowns - so when thinks start happening she's not entirely comfortable with she makes them out to be more dangerous than they really are.
A "you can't perfectly predict the future, so just make the best decision you can right now" insight could potentially be helpful in this regard?
I think the major concern here is that there might be larger -3 subfactions in the Diao (and also the Meng and Jia) as well.
If one faction of Imperial Conservatives has that low an opinion of us, the Imperial Conservatives in other factions might have as well and they probably have more sway in the other clans.
That said, I don't think that's actually the case.
For one, if the Diao's Imperial Conservatives disliked us that much, I suspect they wouldn't be at an overall -1.
For another, I suspect what's actually going on is that the Imperial Conservatives in the Luo and Wang holdings react more strongly because they're already somewhat politically isolated in their own factions. (Also border stuff is more important to Luo and Wang in general.)
They basically risk being even more sidelined with this kinda development, because, if this goes through like we hope it will, odds are they can't even hope for a general trend towards peakabooness to give them a boost.
Kinda concerning still of course, cause a small part of a count clan's holdings still massively outscales us personally, but under the aegis of the Cai we can probably weather it, unless we stop delivering results.
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FriedIce
The Authentic Fake
- Location
- Hyperreality
This. This feels significant. It almost feels like we're being interpreted as a peace offering of sorts from the Great Spirits to the Duchess
Did Danny boy mention we found a Weilu genealogy or was that not significant enough to mention expect obliquely via "historical documents"?
- Location
- Leeds
Beyond reasonable expectations?
Genealogical records seem implied by us having discovered proof of the genealogical connection between the ice folks and Meng and Diao.
[] The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming
[] To journey and seek knowledge is virtue unto itself
[] Do not take insight from Roaming Moon's Eye
Okay, I think the idea that "To journey and seek knowledge is virtue unto itself" is not something I want to incorporate into Ling Qi's core identity. That's the sort of itchy feet we don't need. Travel is good, but I don't want her forced by her fundamental nature to be always on the move!
As for, "The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming" I'm not so sure about that one either. It sound and awful lot like, "A Plan is just a list of things that don't happen". But Ling Qi is great at (cultivation) planning. I don't want her to be anti-plan.
So I think I'm for no insight.
[] To journey and seek knowledge is virtue unto itself
[] Do not take insight from Roaming Moon's Eye
Okay, I think the idea that "To journey and seek knowledge is virtue unto itself" is not something I want to incorporate into Ling Qi's core identity. That's the sort of itchy feet we don't need. Travel is good, but I don't want her forced by her fundamental nature to be always on the move!
As for, "The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming" I'm not so sure about that one either. It sound and awful lot like, "A Plan is just a list of things that don't happen". But Ling Qi is great at (cultivation) planning. I don't want her to be anti-plan.
So I think I'm for no insight.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
While the ImpCon population is small in Luo and Wang lands, it's almost certainly larger elsewhere in the province. The Luo are WeiMod by inclination, and the Wang are between ImpMod and monofocused on the border. I'm more worried about ImpCon groups under the Jia, Bao, and Diao being larger, in addition to ImpCon aggression from Luo and Wang subordinate groups.
Bao is probably not a problem. Them going up a rank and yrs comment that
Makes me think that their internal factions are more trade based then the cultural/political imp/wei divide.
- Location
- United States of America
I loved this chapter! I'll have to get back to it and do some analysis. But for right now.
[] The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming
This is what I want to talk about. Because I love it. So very much. Particularly with HDW's insight "Even walking alone, footfalls echo beyond your hearing."
There is some strong synergy in the concepts expressed by both, I feel. Both have to do with traveling, with walking, but more importantly, they deal with the consequences of the journey. For HDW it is that there are wider effects than what can be perceived, and this option deals with how every step alters what the future may be.
While HDW's insight has a lot more wiggle room in how to interpret it, this option is fairly explicit where we should not be certain about knowing what is coming. This may seem to not be connected, but there is a core value here in that our actions are causing things to happen beyond what we can see, whether that be the present with the echoes beyond our hearing or in the future with changes happening for every action.
I also think there is some really neat synergy in having two of our perception arts, HDW and RME have insights that synergize at such an interesting level.
[] The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming
This is what I want to talk about. Because I love it. So very much. Particularly with HDW's insight "Even walking alone, footfalls echo beyond your hearing."
There is some strong synergy in the concepts expressed by both, I feel. Both have to do with traveling, with walking, but more importantly, they deal with the consequences of the journey. For HDW it is that there are wider effects than what can be perceived, and this option deals with how every step alters what the future may be.
While HDW's insight has a lot more wiggle room in how to interpret it, this option is fairly explicit where we should not be certain about knowing what is coming. This may seem to not be connected, but there is a core value here in that our actions are causing things to happen beyond what we can see, whether that be the present with the echoes beyond our hearing or in the future with changes happening for every action.
I also think there is some really neat synergy in having two of our perception arts, HDW and RME have insights that synergize at such an interesting level.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Pretty sure that's the Bao clan as an entity, not including their vassal clans. With them being on the Peaks border, i think they probably have a largr proportion of ImpCon vassals. I could be wrong though
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
I'll admit I didn't get the joke, although Shenhua's humor was properly terrifying.