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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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The original "cloud nomad dad!" theory came about in a time when we knew a lot less about the ethnic makeup of southern Emerald Seas. It was also me deliberately shitposting archery memes.

What we know now is the hill tribes were a thing, some or many of them were had a migratory way of life, and they'd been on a decline of forced integration until relatively recently and now basically aren't a thing. The things we know about Ling Qi's father: dark skin as is common among the southern province, musician, lived as part of a travelling band of entertainers.

It's not a stretch that the caravan is a fragment remnant of hill tribe integration. But that's about the limit of what we have evidence to speculate on.

More interesting is what's going on with Qingge's lineage anyway, considering the apparent talent of Biyu and mysterious magic combs.
 
We have a high chance of having something interesting in our lineage and it probably comes from our father's side. Or have you forgotten the very first vote in the quest?

[] Street Rat
  • You have nothing. Child of a prostitute and an unknown father, you have always lived by your wits and by stealing from others. Yet you were still discovered by an Agent as a budding talent, and now everything has changed.
  • Advantages: High innate talent, 'practical' skills, decent physical and mental abilities, Possible hidden ability?
  • Disadvantages: No resources. Very low social ability. Compulsory Military Service. Somewhat cliche
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Random Shinobi said:
We have a high chance of having something interesting in our lineage and it probably comes from our father's side. Or have you forgotten the very first vote in the quest?
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I mean, our mum is the one that's known to have produced two children with the talent to cultivate, from different fathers. And then there's the mystery of the comb background of her family. May or may not be an exciting history, but we don't actually know it.
 
Lena27 said:
Who came up with that theory?? Like seriously, was her father a cloud nomad spy who infiltrated the Emerald Seas region ...and while on his mission, on a whim he decided to whisk a wayward young girl off her feet, promise her the world and leave after he gets what he really wants? And then what, he continues on his mission?
Even if you change the ending to match the other slightly less dubious theory people have, about the Liu killing him off or threatening him off bc they didn't want Qingge having a happy ending...its still dumb writing. And Yrsillar is better than that.

I also don't see why there has to be some reason her dad was prevented from leaving the city with Qingge. You know, there are men who do just up and leave after they get the one thing they want, regardless of what promises they make. Plenty of men actually.
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AbeoLogos said:
The original "cloud nomad dad!" theory came about in a time when we knew a lot less about the ethnic makeup of southern Emerald Seas. It was also me deliberately shitposting archery memes.

What we know now is the hill tribes were a thing, some or many of them were had a migratory way of life, and they'd been on a decline of forced integration until relatively recently and now basically aren't a thing. The things we know about Ling Qi's father: dark skin as is common among the southern province, musician, lived as part of a travelling band of entertainers.

It's not a stretch that the caravan is a fragment remnant of hill tribe integration. But that's about the limit of what we have evidence to speculate on.

More interesting is what's going on with Qingge's lineage anyway, considering the apparent talent of Biyu and mysterious magic combs.
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To be fair her dad doesn't need to have been a cloud nomad to be the cloud tribe ethnicity. Wang Chao recently told us about how his family has conquered and assimilated some of their people in the past. My best guess is that Ling Qi is half 'imperial' from her mother, half 'cloud' from her father (explaining the old wind/archery stuff), a drop of Weilu since literally everyone in the Emerald Seas probably has that, and that she doesn't actually have much blood relation to the hill tribes. All the old Emerald Seas culture stuff never came across as Ling Qi rediscovering some connection to it, but rather its a way of life/culture that she chooses to find value in even if she doesn't really have a blood relation there.
 
I'm just saying, the carny lifestyle isn't that different from what we learned of the old hill tribe ways. Once cities have been plopped down and disrupted the spirits your people formed pacts with and traveled between for generations, it's adapt or die. Turning your songs and wit toward human audiences is one way to get by.
 
Random Shinobi said:
We have a high chance of having something interesting in our lineage and it probably comes from our father's side. Or have you forgotten the very first vote in the quest?
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Having a "hidden ability" doesn't automatically mean that we have a special lineage from our father's side. Even if we did inherit our special ability via bloodline, doesn't mean its our dads lineage. I'd expect it to be something more original from Yrs actually, considering he's a great writer. At the very least he'll find a way to execute it in-story so its not the same old idea.
 
I don't think Ling Qi suddenly having some ancient bloodline or heritage is interesting.
Now, Ling Qi becomming inheritor of ancient customs through simply learning, and adopting them is much more interesting.
She has already started with learning those stories from the library that were going to be burnt, and in that she treats her spirits as family, not tools.
Ling clan will reconstruct the old ways, or at least the old ways that are good and work, instead of blinly following traditions nobody remembers the origins of.
 
Adhoc vote count started by sleepypanda on Aug 20, 2020 at 10:09 AM, finished with 242 posts and 65 votes.
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LQ's father has been a potential plot hook for a long time, and the White Sky connection has a fairly high chance of being that - it didn't sound like just a matter of Zeqing, the way it was written. That said, regardless of what Yrs has planned, the argument of "secret bloodline is bad writing" is outright infuriating. It's a trope that is sometimes used badly, but in this case it's not sudden, it's not 'chosen one' in any way (that involves a prophecy and risks removing everyone's agency, protagonist included), and it doesn't devalue LQ's success because that's mostly due to genetic talent in any case.
 
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Well, her dad was part of a troupe or aomething. He could've been anybody really. Since he might've been a musician who ran away from home to see the world. It is optional that the ice lady was more interested in ling qi because of that. It is likely that ice lady's reaction in which case (the cursing and frustration) was because her shitty sibling had a bastard. Honestly, that was my first thought. But it would be too cheap for one. For another... a meetup between ling qi and her dad would be interesting. It would also make this whole matter far more interesting as well. It is more interesting since now she not only has to confront her father, but also someone whom she believes might be her aunt. all this while trying to adapt to ancient customs when she doesn't even know the language, and also try to diplomat between the cloud tripe and the duchy.

Besides that, I agree that the hidden blood trope is indeed too common but ling qi is not a common person. It is relatively safe to assume her father is not a common man. If the plot hook won't be covered, that would be worse. If her blood wasn't unique in any way just relating her to some clans or ancestory as well as allowing us to meet another side of her familiy, that is just good storytelling.
 
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thkiw said:
Ling qigge probably knows who it is. Or at least she guessed. I doubt it is some nobody. Since she was a fallen noble and thus a relatively higher level courtesean.
Maybe it's the fatass ugly bastard she had an argument with.
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I doubt it, little sis has a high cultivation talent if her hearing our spirits as whispers without cultivation is any indication. Fat bastard was just a wealthy mortal. Ergo it's probably a cultivator of some sort.
 
CuriousRaptor said:
I doubt it, little sis has a high cultivation talent if her hearing our spirits as whispers without cultivation is any indication. Fat bastard was just a wealthy mortal. Ergo it's probably a cultivator of some sort.
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Parents have almost nothing to do with Cultivation Talent of a child unless one of the parents is spirit-blooded, it's a primarily random process with that significant investments into the child's conception and birth can only nudge slightly.
 
Pathos said:
Parents have almost nothing to do with Cultivation Talent of a child unless one of the parents is spirit-blooded, it's a primarily random process with that significant investments into the child's conception and birth can only nudge slightly.
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Ever since I saw character creation and further by han Jian interlude, talent seems to be created by hardships as a child and the motivation cause by it.
 
CuriousRaptor said:
I doubt it, little sis has a high cultivation talent if her hearing our spirits as whispers without cultivation is any indication. Fat bastard was just a wealthy mortal. Ergo it's probably a cultivator of some sort.
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is he though? it is such a despicable man with such obsession towards ling qigge, that he would want to have sex with her daughter, and that would go as far as to have an argument with her. the fatass is definitely a regular costumer, and not only so, since he even knows she has a daughter. he might have some connection with the guy who put ling qigge in that situation in the first place. the very same maybe.

I mean, the guy who put ling qigge in that situation probably paid her regular visits, and was so obsessed that he sent thugs after her even after she finished working just to harass her (I assume it was him, it is still possible those were the local street gangs taking advantage of an unprotected women). assuming that line of thought - such a despicable person who pays regular visits to ling qigge is most likely to be the father. as a noble he doesn't need to look pretty to be powerful.
 
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Ok so like what controlled tragedy do we have planned to set up Biyu to feel like she needs to have to be a cultivator? Hahaha

I'm gonna go with the tried and true dropping her off a cliff, with a cai gown
 
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angelofwhim said:
Ever since I saw character creation and further by han Jian interlude, talent seems to be created by hardships as a child and the motivation cause by it.
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overall, I doubt lineage has nothing to do with cultivation ability. since they rely on cultivation ability to consolidate their power. spirit blood just gives them an edge.

the character sheet is just common sense. a noble is more likely to be of a more average cultivation ability (unless he is a scion of a high noble family. in that case he is also spirit blooded) since all cultivators are nobles. but a commoner must be pretty good to make someone even take notice.
 
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