There is no emotion... (A Jedi Order Quest)

First among equals is a relationship that I can get behind. As for being the Republics military arm...I have no desire or interest in having the Jedi Order be part of the Republic's Military. The Clone Wars showed quite well how much of a catch-22 that was.
 
First among equals is a relationship that I can get behind. As for being the Republics military arm...I have no desire or interest in having the Jedi Order be part of the Republic's Military. The Clone Wars showed quite well how much of a catch-22 that was.
You say that until Notakin Groundflyer, Grandmaster of the Telos Temple ends up yoloing you into an anti-Slavery Crusade that sees you battling the Zygerrians, Hutts, and Nightsisters all at the same time. :V

More seriously, like.

You know how the Dantooine Council exists? Yeah, imagine that except it is theoretically fully within its rights to tell the High Council to fuck off and you're looking at a pretty good if simplified example of how 1000 Sparks works.
 
You know how the Dantooine Council exists? Yeah, imagine that except it is theoretically fully within its rights to tell the High Council to fuck off and you're looking at a pretty good if simplified example of how 1000 Sparks works.
Yet, the pure quality doctrine has it's own problems, remember the clone wars where they were blind to the Sith until that decapitation strike known as order 66?
 
You say that until Notakin Groundflyer, Grandmaster of the Telos Temple ends up yoloing you into an anti-Slavery Crusade that sees you battling the Zygerrians, Hutts, and Nightsisters all at the same time. :V

More seriously, like.

You know how the Dantooine Council exists? Yeah, imagine that except it is theoretically fully within its rights to tell the High Council to fuck off and you're looking at a pretty good if simplified example of how 1000 Sparks works.

That actually sounds kind of fun. Ngl. At the same time I can see how that would be a problem.
 
Spent the last few days reading this quest and loved it. Looking forward to whatever comes next. For the current vote, I'm going to have go with @TaliesinSkye's plan.

[X] Plan Put Off The Infrastructure Decision For Now
 
So we end up in a conversation about federalism vs confederalism vs devolution to regional governments in a unitary state.

Confederalism falls apart against an external threat that targets individually.
Unitary states centralize power as do federal states. The outer room being powerless is how the clone wars gained ground out there.

Maybe we keep putting off infrastructure and put points in other things
 
[x] Plan: Dynamic Entry!
- Personal Attention: +19 Points to 20/20
- Back Roads: +6 Points to 6/20
- Holocron of Odan-Urr

Being able to catch stuff quickly, while it's still early into a crisis, could be a pretty big boon - and since most of our knights are new, I wouldn't think we're that in need of Masterhood reforms yet.

Willing to budge on Odan-Urr, but y'all said you wanted a likely Tython snitch, so...
 
[x] Plan: Dynamic Entry!

I thank the QM for answering my question. Whatever happens, I stay the heck away from Clone Wars council. While having some good individuals, as a whole they messed up badly.
 
Research Results 3945 Q2
[X] Plan Put Off The Infrastructure Decision For Now
-Personal Attention: +19 Points to 20/20
-Masters' Trial: +6 Points to 6/20
-Holocron of Nomi Sunrider
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"The first duty of the Jedi is to the Force; secondly, to the Republic insofar as the two are linked...

(+5 Let's Just Be Friends, +10 Knowledge)

A matter of some import to you has come up. The government of Corellia is planning something of a colonization wave, working with various explorers to discover suitable worlds. Jedi star-charts are often the most accurate for a number of reasons, with many amateur astronomers and pilots. if you were to toss them some, they would likely reward you with help rebuilding Dantooine. Who knows? You might even be allowed to spread to Corellia.

[] Accept (For the next year, the first ten points of Knowledge earned on Missions will be forwarded to Corellia; in return, discount to establishing Corellian Temple, and large rolls to rebuilding on facilities each quarter)
[] Decline

Aside from that and what you have learned from the Holocron of Nomi Sunrider, you have also received reports from Mical and Brianna telling you that over the next few months, they will be bringing an end to the war on Azil, one way or another. That starts by capturing the leader of the mercenaries.
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Moratorium for three hours.
 
Looks like a pretty good deal to me, even if it will be some time before we spread to Corellia.
Aside from that and what you have learned from the Holocron of Nomi Sunrider, you have also received reports from Mical and Brianna telling you that over the next few months, they will be bringing an end to the war on Azil, one way or another. That starts by capturing the leader of the mercenaries.
That is good.
 
... Honestly? I really feel this could end up tying the Jedi to humanosupremacy to back colonisation efforts by Corellia or indeed any of the major human worlds. It might in theory just be worlds without existing peoples, but the precedent concerns me, and the Core is influential enough already. It's a powerful bonus, but not worth it IMO, and we don't really need a Corellian temple.
 
... Honestly? I really feel this could end up tying the Jedi to humanosupremacy to back colonisation efforts by Corellia or indeed any of the major human worlds. It might in theory just be worlds without existing peoples, but the precedent concerns me, and the Core is influential enough already. It's a powerful bonus, but not worth it IMO, and we don't really need a Corellian temple.
Theoretically, for every Human world, there needs to be one Selonian and one Drall world colonized. And yes, it is "we're grabbing uninhabited land colonization."

I realize I probably should have had this in the original post, but in my defense, I did not sleep last night.
 
Theoretically, for every Human world, there needs to be one Selonian and one Drall world colonized. And yes, it is "we're grabbing uninhabited land colonization."

I realize I probably should have had this in the original post, but in my defense, I did not sleep last night.
True, but Corellia's bread has historically been buttered on the humanocentrism side. So like... maybe it could pan out? But especially from an in-character POV as a Jedi councillor making decisions, I think an arms-length and let's-just-be-friends-policy is warranted with the Core, and especially the major human Core worlds with maybe the exception of Empress Teta.
 
... Honestly? I really feel this could end up tying the Jedi to humanosupremacy to back colonisation efforts by Corellia or indeed any of the major human worlds. It might in theory just be worlds without existing peoples, but the precedent concerns me, and the Core is influential enough already. It's a powerful bonus, but not worth it IMO, and we don't really need a Corellian temple.
True, but Corellia's bread has historically been buttered on the humanocentrism side. So like... maybe it could pan out? But especially from an in-character POV as a Jedi councillor making decisions, I think an arms-length and let's-just-be-friends-policy is warranted with the Core, and especially the major human Core worlds with maybe the exception of Empress Teta.
That seems a bit odd. I can't really remember Corellia being really involved in human supremacy, in Legends or otherwise. Perhaps you could provide references for Corellian humanocentrism? Because they have never seemed to hold that stance in what I have read of them.
 
That seems a bit odd. I can't really remember Corellia being really involved in human supremacy, in Legends or otherwise. Perhaps you could provide references for Corellian humanocentrism? Because they have never seemed to hold that stance in what I have read of them.
It does now occur tome that pretty much all of their stuff on this topic is in the Imperial era - so, in fairness, it hasn't happened yet in terms of explicit stuff. But in simple terms Corellia ended up going in with the Empire (which is what led Garm Bel Iblis to start his resistance group), and in any case was generally fairly pro-isolationist despite the longrunning history of firing off colony missions everywhere. It was better than many or even most of the Cor human worlds since it was one of the few that still allowed alien workers by 1 ABY, but it's still fundamentally pro-Palpy for most of the war. Case in point, Corellian as a term is usually only ever applied to its human population, regardless of if any non-humans have been living there their entire lives. Additionally, Corellia polices the other worlds in its system over the heads of Selonians or Drall. It's hardly Pius Dea type stuff, but there's this consistent subtle undertone of supremacism.

My source for this, to save searching through lots of books, I'm going to use Coruscant and the Core Worlds (2003).

Now, I do concede I forgot that all of this is several thousand years away from happening, but given Corellia's more or less total absence from KOTOR era mentions, and how Core human major powers that aren't Empress Teta typically go... yeah I don't trust that Corellia won't go that route. In any case the Core (human or otherwise) is powerful and influential enough, and even if Corellia was a golden bright-eyed innocent, I would still be firmly opposed to any major Core world being encouraged by the Jedi to expand their reach in any capacity. We should put these kinds of efforts into more rimward worlds, or at the very least Core worlds that aren't swimming in prosperity and power, and especially the ones often neglected by the Core-centric focus of Galactic Republic politics.
 
... Honestly? I really feel this could end up tying the Jedi to humanosupremacy to back colonisation efforts by Corellia or indeed any of the major human worlds. It might in theory just be worlds without existing peoples, but the precedent concerns me, and the Core is influential enough already. It's a powerful bonus, but not worth it IMO, and we don't really need a Corellian temple.
True, but Corellia's bread has historically been buttered on the humanocentrism side. So like... maybe it could pan out? But especially from an in-character POV as a Jedi councillor making decisions, I think an arms-length and let's-just-be-friends-policy is warranted with the Core, and especially the major human Core worlds with maybe the exception of Empress Teta.
It does now occur tome that pretty much all of their stuff on this topic is in the Imperial era - so, in fairness, it hasn't happened yet in terms of explicit stuff. But in simple terms Corellia ended up going in with the Empire (which is what led Garm Bel Iblis to start his resistance group), and in any case was generally fairly pro-isolationist despite the longrunning history of firing off colony missions everywhere. It was better than many or even most of the Cor human worlds since it was one of the few that still allowed alien workers by 1 ABY, but it's still fundamentally pro-Palpy for most of the war. Case in point, Corellian as a term is usually only ever applied to its human population, regardless of if any non-humans have been living there their entire lives. Additionally, Corellia polices the other worlds in its system over the heads of Selonians or Drall. It's hardly Pius Dea type stuff, but there's this consistent subtle undertone of supremacism.

My source for this, to save searching through lots of books, I'm going to use Coruscant and the Core Worlds (2003).

Now, I do concede I forgot that all of this is several thousand years away from happening, but given Corellia's more or less total absence from KOTOR era mentions, and how Core human major powers that aren't Empress Teta typically go... yeah I don't trust that Corellia won't go that route. In any case the Core (human or otherwise) is powerful and influential enough, and even if Corellia was a golden bright-eyed innocent, I would still be firmly opposed to any major Core world being encouraged by the Jedi to expand their reach in any capacity. We should put these kinds of efforts into more rimward worlds, or at the very least Core worlds that aren't swimming in prosperity and power, and especially the ones often neglected by the Core-centric focus of Galactic Republic politics.

While I agree with your point about helping non-Core worlds expand, the fact is that Corellia is going to do this with or without us. And while they could influence us, there's also the chance of us influencing them. If and when the opportunity to come help less developed worlds expand, we should definitely take it, but it's not an option right now.
 
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