I'm not wasting any time getting troops in the area. Once they are at our mercy, then I might be willing to talk to them with plasma cannons aimed and ready to fire at our command. You don't respond hostility or the potential of it with kindness when it's right at your door.
 
I'm not wasting any time getting troops in the area. Once they are at our mercy, then I might be willing to talk to them with plasma cannons aimed and ready to fire at our command. You don't respond hostility or the potential of it with kindness when it's right at your door.
Given our ability to instantly deploy, there is no time wasted. As soon as we decide Violence is the way to go, they would be there and ready to shoot. Plus, holding them off till we are sure we want to kill them lets us maintain the element of surprise, for they are going to be VERY shocked when our ships appear out of nowhere and instantly open fire.
Plus, if we deploy first, we turn possible hostilities into actual hostilities, unless you honestly expect the aliens to just sit there when our ships appear out of nowhere.
 
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[X] "Give me a sitrep. What are we dealing with and what resources can we deploy to deal with it? Have we intercepted their comms yet, and are our anti-orbital batteries prepped? Get all personnel mobilized, with crewmen and any infantrymen being transported in them scrambling!"
 
@Trondason I apologize, but quoting block by block is a pain.

Normal: Yes. 13 million of them. It's specifically a "much larger invasion force than normal". They probably would've gotten a yes. Hell they could've chosen to colonize the moon and then establish trade. They didn't do that.

They don't know what we're fully capable of, and neither do we. It's fair to say they're likely improvising, and this expedition is out to partly test us.

As for the attacks: That isn't how war works. You don't go "our killcounts are even, so let's all go home". That's not how it works. They're going to start hostilities with or without us being deployed. At least if we deploy, we're not only doing our jobs, but redirecting any fire to us and not at civilians.


Here is my plan Tron: We wipe out these fuckers. If they manage to retreat and get to their fleet, no skin off our bone.

We build up. We massively build up. We either then prepare for a massive invasion, or take the fight to them in space before they reach Earth. Once we fuck them up, they're at our mercy and that is when they"ll negotiate. It will also give us a stronger hand in negotiating.
 
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I'll just say this much. I know what the aliens have planned (vaguely) and I'm laughing my ass off at all your random stumbling around in the dark if only because of just how wrong it all is.
 
Eh, where was this? I think I might have missed one of your posts earlier. A reminder would be much appreciated.
Speaking of whom, I had a "weapon" idea that we should see if we can make. It's a launcher that shoots the the teleporter thingies, that stick to the target and then teleport it into a hold-cell at base (or where ever else)
I apologize, but quoting block by block is a pain.
Seems rather easy to me. Find a bit that you want to reply to, highlight it, hit the reply button, and then type your response. Also makes it easier to keep track of what you are talking about, when you are talking about several subjects. But oh well.
Normal: Yes. 13 million of them. It's specifically a "much larger invasion force than normal".
Just because there's more of them doesn't make them a problem. Back on their planet, there were probably a few billion of them, but they didn't completely revolutionize science every few months, don't see how 13 million of them could without something new to study.
Hell they could've chosen to colonize the moon and then establish trade. They didn't do that.
No they couldn't. Most of them would have starved if they tried to support themselves. If you meant "trade for food", our food probably wouldn't work for them, different biologies and all, even if we had enough to support them all. Normal Earth doesn't have access to our advance Star Craft tech after all, and as such it's a fair assumption to think that Earth's indigenous species couldn't support them.
They don't know what we're fully capable of, and neither do we. It's fair to say they're likely improvising, and this expedition is out to partly test us.
We know a lot more of what they are capable of then they know of us. Again, "we" fought off a full on invasion, so any tricks that would be conductive to killing/conquering people, probably were already used.
As for the attacks: That isn't how war works. You don't go "our killcounts are even, so let's all go home". That's not how it works.
Why not? They don't have anything we want, so why do we want to continue fighting? Because we like killing them, for revenge or otherwise? They are fighting us, because they think that's their current best option, they don't think peace is even a option good or otherwise. We just have to tell them that that ain't true. If they decide to stop fighting us, why should we continue on fighting them?
They're going to start hostilities with or without us being deployed.
Why are you so sure? What would they even be hostile against? Are they going to bombard some random city form orbit? Because if you mean they are going to fly guys down to do some more kidnapping, we can interrupt them before they get that far, for that takes time, while us deploying doesn't.
At least if we deploy, we're not only doing our jobs, but redirecting any fire to us and not at civilians.
Again, they are in orbit. The only possible civilian they can shoot barring orbital strikes (which even if we deploy right now, we wouldn't be able to stop, considering our guys still have to get in their bear before being teleported up) might be the ISS, if it just so happens to be over there.
I'll just say this much. I know what the aliens have planned (vaguely) and I'm laughing my ass off at all your random stumbling around in the dark if only because of just how wrong it all is.
Are both of us wrong?
 
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No I have not actually. What I can find online says they kidnap some cows.

Plus, you missed at the beginning where I pointed out my weapon idea.
HINT: Their motive is to survive with minimum casualties and their current biggest problem is starvation.

Also the teleporter thingy would work but it'll have a few issues that won't be apparent until you try using it.
 
Seems rather easy to me. Find a bit that you want to reply to, highlight it, hit the reply button, and then type your response. Also makes it easier to keep track of what you are talking about, when you are talking about several subjects. But oh well.

Oh shit. I didn't know about that feature. Thanks man.

Just because there's more of them doesn't make them a problem. Back on their planet, there were probably a few billion of them, but they didn't completely revolutionize science every few months, don't see how 13 million of them could without something new to study.

It does when we're at war with an advanced civilization. More manpower, more resources, more guns.

No they couldn't. Most of them would have starved if they tried to support themselves. If you meant "trade for food", our food probably wouldn't work for them, different biologies and all, even if we had enough to support them all. Normal Earth doesn't have access to our advance Star Craft tech after all, and as such it's a fair assumption to think that Earth's indigenous species couldn't support them.

Then they could've made it so Earth would produce said food in exchange for tech?

Why not? They don't have anything we want, so why do we want to continue fighting? Because we like killing them, for revenge or otherwise? They are fighting us, because they think that's their current best option, they don't think peace is even a option good or otherwise. We just have to tell them that that ain't true. If they decide to stop fighting us, why should we continue on fighting them?

Because it isn't how humans fight wars.

Why are you so sure? What would they even be hostile against? Are they going to bombard some random city form orbit? Because if you mean they are going to fly guys down to do some more kidnapping, we can interrupt them before they get that far, for that takes time, while us deploying doesn't.

Yes, kidnap and then fuck up shit.

Again, they are in orbit. The only possible civilian they can shoot barring orbital strikes (which even if we deploy right now, we wouldn't be able to stop, considering our guys still have to get in their bear before being teleported up) might be the ISS, if it just so happens to be over there.

They're in orbit, for now. They're not allowed to go recon either.
 
h shit. I didn't know about that feature. Thanks man.
No problem
It does when we're at war with an advanced civilization. More manpower, more resources, more guns.
They don't actually got any of those. Not for long anyways. Robots allow our industrial base to grow at a exponential rate, with support of the governments we can get that kick-start a lot sooner.
Then they could've made it so Earth would produce said food in exchange for tech?
But Earth doesn't got the tech to make the food, nor the industrial base to make all the food that 16 million people would need.
Because it isn't how humans fight wars.
Because in most human wars, both sides want something that generally isn't just to kill the other guys (sometimes it is, and those are considered some of the worst ones, like the Crusades). We don't want anything from the aliens. They want something from us that we can fairly easily provide. The reason we are fighting in the first place is because they didn't know we both could and would be provide food.
Yes, kidnap and then fuck up shit.
I don't think you are replying to the right thing there. I was asking what would they even attack. There's nothing up in space. Just doing orbital bombardment isn't really productive towards anything but just riling us up, they would only be wasting their ammunition.
They're in orbit, for now. They're not allowed to go recon either.
Yeah, and we will tell them as such, when we call them. If they try to do shit anyways despite us warning them, we will stop them. Exactly how, I'm not sure yet. Three options really. Put bombs on their engines, put people on board to put guns to their heads, or put a brick of pure murder in their way. 1 and 2 are probably better, leaves us more ship to scavenge.

@I just write had another idea that I'm wondering of the feasibility of. It's basically the other kind of Time Stop, where we slow down time in a specific area, till it's pretty much not passing at all. How easy would that be to make with the time-tech we already got, and about what would the energy requirements be?
 
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@I just write had another idea that I'm wondering of the feasibility of. It's basically the other kind of Time Stop, where we slow down time in a specific area, till it's pretty much not passing at all. How easy would that be to make with the time-tech we already got, and about what would the energy requirements be?
You could do that. Its power requirements would be about the same as Time Stop. The device would need to be inside its own field, though you could make an awesome 'stasis pod' with it.The aliens are about to do a smash and grab for stuff to eat.
 
. The device would need to be inside its own field,
Would the power consumption be measured from a outside or inside perspective? Because if it's the latter, that thing can go for pretty much forever from our perspective.
And yeah, the stasis pod thing was pretty much the idea.
The aliens are about to do a smash and grab for stuff to eat.
Ah. Yeah, we can probably make a deal then.
 
Would the power consumption be measured from a outside or inside perspective? Because if it's the latter, that thing can go for pretty much forever from our perspective.
And yeah, the stasis pod thing was pretty much the idea.
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But Earth doesn't got the tech to make the food, nor the industrial base to make all the food that 16 million people would need.

Dude, they could have. There's no justification for their attitude.

I don't think you are replying to the right thing there. I was asking what would they even attack. There's nothing up in space. Just doing orbital bombardment isn't really productive towards anything but just riling us up, they would only be wasting their ammunition.

Kidnap people and then blow some shit up on their way out.
 
Dude, they could have. There's no justification for their attitude.
There's plenty of justification. Especially since, when their scouts arrived, it was very evident that they didn't have any major space operations going on. Tons of satellites, but no space-ships, only a couple tiny space stations, Earth was very evidentally still bound to their one planet, how would they have the production base to make enough food for 16 million more people, who need specially made food?
Kidnap people and then blow some shit up on their way out.
What people? The handful people on the ISS? Because, again, they are in space. It will take them time to get out of space, a couple of minutes. Given our instant deployment, if they try to de-orbit, we can stop them. Hail them now, open discussions, and tell them to NOT de-orbit. If they do not follow, THEN send up the ships.

That's not even getting into that I Just Write has said what their goal here is, and it's to kidnap cows and whatnot, for food.
 
Since it looks like Gunman went to bed, and vote ends tomarrow morning, I will directly address everyone else.
@Cjdavis103 @mrttao @D.D. Spectator My main problem with your current vote is the very last sentence. Due to our teleportation tech, mobilization is pretty much immediate. There is a chance that this can be resolved peacefully, and we should try for it. If they rebuff us, we can then mobilize before they have a chance to do anything (before they finish the sentence if we felt like it). BUT, if we mobilize FIRST, hostilities will almost certainly happen before we even have a chance to say anything, for what would you do if enemy war ships appeared out of nowhere right beside you? Certainly not wait to see if they have anything to say.
 
Since it looks like Gunman went to bed, and vote ends tomarrow morning, I will directly address everyone else.
@Cjdavis103 @mrttao @D.D. Spectator My main problem with your current vote is the very last sentence. Due to our teleportation tech, mobilization is pretty much immediate. There is a chance that this can be resolved peacefully, and we should try for it. If they rebuff us, we can them mobilize before they have a chance to do anything (before they finish the sentence if we felt like it). BUT, if we mobilize FIRST, hostilities will almost certainly happen before we even have a chance to say anything, for what would you do if enemy war ships appeared out of nowhere right beside you? Certainly not wait to see if they have anything to say.

These guys are looking at the death of 90% of their population if they don't take over Earth and we have trouble feeding ourselves let alone an entire species. not to mention the fact that they are heavily expansionist they would attack us anyways.

just a few seconds in deployment speed is crucail when dealing with spaceships that if they where so inclined can decimate a city
 
And why?
These guys are looking at the death of 90% of their population if they don't take over Earth and we have trouble feeding ourselves let alone an entire species. not to mention the fact that they are heavily expansionist they would attack us anyways.

just a few seconds in deployment speed is crucail when dealing with spaceships that if they where so inclined can decimate a city
We have plenty of food, the main problem is logistics. Something we, personally, don't have any issues with. And they wouldn't' attack us if they thought they would lose, which is the case here, and we will make the case later.

As for decimating a city, ignoring that that isn't their goal here as of Word of God, it would be a pointless endeavor, for there is no city they could decimate that is strategically important enough to do more than rile us up, they'd be wasting their ammunition, and, shortly after, their lives.
 
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