The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)
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The GM said nothing about good at politics and from canon we can deduce Dumbledore is not that good at it since he fears having too much power. He crippled his political position intentionally.
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[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Teach them D&D.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
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[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
Must. Happen.
-[X] Teach them D&D.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
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[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
Must. Happen.
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Except, they were also portrayed as having butt-loads of influence. The main opposition that Dumbledore faced.
Doesn't mean he's not good at it. AFter all, the Ministry is DEEPLY corrupted, Fudge is basically Lucius's lap-dog, the only other person in a prominent position is Bones, and she still has to do what Fudge says mostly.
He'd likely have some quests for Harry if nothing else. Clean this corridor, polish those trophies, destroy the Weasley twins...
[x] Suggest playing a game.
-[x] Exploding snap
[x] Thank him for his time but explain that you already have friends capable of helping you figure these things out.
A dimension hopping power with a Gamer Harry who has already solved many of his worlds problems? That sounds awesome! If it's as well written as these updates have been so far, I have complete faith in your ability to pull it off.
Honestly, I wouldn't even slightly care how OP Harry is. In my opinion, the biggest draw for Gamer stories is the OCP nature of the ability and a focus on non violent problems. Especially a focus on character interactions. You can have a story involving a powerful character and have it still be interesting. It's harder to pull off (since focusing on fighting tension is easy), but Halpo has been a great writer for this quest, so I could easily see him doing it.
If you do go this route, I would much prefer no scaling threats. That always seems to defeat the purpose of having become stronger in the first place, and it makes everything we had done to become strong feel pointless.
I'd say go for new game plus (definitely fits the theme), or just keep everything.
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[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Teach them D&D.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
Although I think that Detect Evil registers most children as True Neutral.
-[X] Teach them D&D.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
Although I think that Detect Evil registers most children as True Neutral.
The GM specified that Draco would register as Evil.
That might have been just a joke. His father is Evil for sure, but Draco is just an uninformed bigot, and while that's hardly a positive character trait, it's not enough to push him into that category.
...Now that I think about it, does [Detect Evil] react to any of the Dursleys?
Depends... did his father ever take him to watch a spot of Muggle baiting? That sounds like something Lucius might do judging from Sirius' stories of the Blacks which come from the same social background.
As for the Dursleys, systematic child abuse is pretty evil IMO.
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Draco is an arrogant, cowardly, unrepentant racist. He has no political power or influence (that's Lucius that has that), he will conflict with people we do want to be friends with (we definitely want to be friends with Hermione just on a OOC min-max level, and IC we've already made friends with most of this other group who will not get along with Draco). He has never shown himself to be particularly competent or useful in any way in canon (his sloppy murder attempts nearly get other random people killed). There's no reason to try to become friends with him.
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Torgamous
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Draco wants to be "friends" with us so he can do the exact opposite of that. We will not be able to accomplish your objective without running afoul of his, at which point according to your plans we should cut ties with him.
[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Teach them D&D.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
Perfectly logical.
-[X] Teach them D&D.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
Perfectly logical.
solodark28
If only I could have done things differently
Changing vote I guess since the majority seem to be completely set on not trying to befriend Draco, oh well I tried.
[X] Let the conversation continue. Surely nothing bad will happen.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
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And really, would Harry even bother to cast the spell? Malfoy may come off as arrogant yeah, but evil? And yeah, he is very unlikely to ping as evil at this point in his life.
I see Harry just calmly, with absolutely nothing in his voice implying that its a joke or even that its in any way strange, informing Draco that its all ok due to "detect evil". Thats a pretty OCP/WTF situation for a pure HP wizard to be in, if Harry manages to act in a way that clearly shows he is 100% serious (because he is!).
Too bad we don't have a way of actually truly demonstrating it or some other clearly non-HP magic style feat to Malfoy. If anything, I could see confusing/trolling the guy by pulling crazy stunts being more likely to get him to actually think for himself. Rejecting his propaganda by saying "thats bigoted nonsense!" would obviously end up with him just going "meh, blood-traitor", since thats how his father has basically conditioned him to react to that.
But I wonder, did his father ever teach him what to say when Harry Potter does not react with anger, but instead calmly explains that Hermione is obviously not the wrong type because she does not ping on the detect evil spell, and then going further to explain that if she did, Harry could smite her for extra damage since everyone knows Smite Evil is a thing. Heck, how would he react if Ron for example starts calling him evil or deatheater, and Harry THEN casting the spell and using it as an excuse to defend Malfoy by explaining to Ron that Malfoy is just spouting what his father told him to and does not actually count as evil.
I wish speak to animals was a targeted spell. Casting it on Draco and then introducing Nevilles toad to him would be so awesome. Ohwell.
The greatest wizards are always a little nutty, Harry is just establishing himself early. First with the deadpan detect evil, then with the [MANIACAL LAUGHTER].
Current tally. And seriously, there are nine fucking varieties of the D&D votes..
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
Conflict resolution.
[x] Suggest playing a game.
No. of votes: 45
Corvo Montés, Trondason, Zaratustra, Godogma, Grass, will408914, sleepyforest, Larekko12, Kerfirou, Enjou, the DragonBard, Ethereal Vitali, Swimmingly, Crazy7s1, IceWing, TotallyNotEvil, CatScannerDarkly, Alanek, WCSII, Evaunit02mark1, TMIoverload, Louie the Lilac, Piell, Heretek, Brandark, KnightofTempest, R. E. Lee, Vindictus, AZATHOTHoth, Void Stalker, skaro, RandomLurker, Tylonius, DragonParadox, owrtho, Datakim, Fredo, Dr. Bob Doom, Bloodalchemy, Unelemental, veekie, Edkose, Hangwind, wingstrike96, solodark28
-[X] Dungeons and Dragons
No. of votes: 28
Fuck you assholes, I'm not consolidating this again.
-[X] Poker
No. of votes: 10
Trondason, Kerfirou, Enjou, the DragonBard, Swimmingly, Crazy7s1, WCSII, R. E. Lee, skaro, Bloodalchemy
-[x] Exploding snap
No. of votes: 7
Alanek, Brandark, AZATHOTHoth, RandomLurker, Tylonius, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose
-[X] Cripple Mr. Onion
No. of votes: 1
KnightofTempest
-[X]Perhaps focus on conversation on the most OP games they've played, or high synergistic results. Anything that can insta kill or nosell dark magic or dark lords should be a priority
No. of votes: 1
Mandabar
[X] Let the conversation continue. Surely nothing bad will happen.
No. of votes: 1
Goldfish
Dealing with Draco
[x] Thank him for his time but explain that you already have friends capable of helping you figure these things out.
No. of votes: 21
Corvo Montés, Trondason, Godogma, will408914, Ethereal Vitali, Mistofshadows, CatScannerDarkly, Alanek, TMIoverload, Louie the Lilac, Torgamous, Piell, Brandark, KnightofTempest, AZATHOTHoth, Void Stalker, Tylonius, DragonParadox, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose, Goldfish
[X] Invite him in, to join in the conversation/game, but explain you don't have room for his friends in the compartment as well.
No. of votes: 16
Zaratustra, Grass, Larekko12, Kerfirou, Enjou, the DragonBard, Crazy7s1, TotallyNotEvil, WCSII, Evaunit02mark1, Heretek, R. E. Lee, skaro, Mandabar, owrtho, Bloodalchemy
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
No. of votes: 7
Datakim, Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, solodark28
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
No. of votes: 7
Datakim, Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, solodark28
[X] Relax, Draco. They only laughed because the way you introduced yourself reminded us of a very famous movie. In fact, they would have cracked up just as much had I responded by saying, 'Potter. Harry Potter.' Your actual name had nothing to do with it. Now, you want to join us? I'm about to teach the others how DD works, and the more the merrier!
No. of votes: 2
EasyCo, Mandabar
[X] Shut the door in his face, you don't feel like dealing with snobs.
No. of votes: 1
sleepyforest
[X] Invite him in, and his friends, too.
No. of votes: 1
Swimmingly
[X] Thank him for his time but explain that you would figure it out yourself
No. of votes: 1
Great_BrightSlap
[x] So... Couple of things... First, you're introducing yourself first by your surname. Indicating that you believe your family to be of the utmost importance, even more than your own identity. Then you re-introduce yourself, using your first name and your last name. Do you have a middle name? And, is that your actual full name? (Harry is wondering if he can find out Draco's True Name, which, per most magical systems, gives you some power over others. He has previously determined he will not give his full name to anybody at school, just in case.
No. of votes: 1
IceWing
##### 3.21
Conflict resolution.
[x] Suggest playing a game.
No. of votes: 45
Corvo Montés, Trondason, Zaratustra, Godogma, Grass, will408914, sleepyforest, Larekko12, Kerfirou, Enjou, the DragonBard, Ethereal Vitali, Swimmingly, Crazy7s1, IceWing, TotallyNotEvil, CatScannerDarkly, Alanek, WCSII, Evaunit02mark1, TMIoverload, Louie the Lilac, Piell, Heretek, Brandark, KnightofTempest, R. E. Lee, Vindictus, AZATHOTHoth, Void Stalker, skaro, RandomLurker, Tylonius, DragonParadox, owrtho, Datakim, Fredo, Dr. Bob Doom, Bloodalchemy, Unelemental, veekie, Edkose, Hangwind, wingstrike96, solodark28
-[X] Dungeons and Dragons
No. of votes: 28
Fuck you assholes, I'm not consolidating this again.
-[X] Poker
No. of votes: 10
Trondason, Kerfirou, Enjou, the DragonBard, Swimmingly, Crazy7s1, WCSII, R. E. Lee, skaro, Bloodalchemy
-[x] Exploding snap
No. of votes: 7
Alanek, Brandark, AZATHOTHoth, RandomLurker, Tylonius, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose
-[X] Cripple Mr. Onion
No. of votes: 1
KnightofTempest
-[X]Perhaps focus on conversation on the most OP games they've played, or high synergistic results. Anything that can insta kill or nosell dark magic or dark lords should be a priority
No. of votes: 1
Mandabar
[X] Let the conversation continue. Surely nothing bad will happen.
No. of votes: 1
Goldfish
Dealing with Draco
[x] Thank him for his time but explain that you already have friends capable of helping you figure these things out.
No. of votes: 21
Corvo Montés, Trondason, Godogma, will408914, Ethereal Vitali, Mistofshadows, CatScannerDarkly, Alanek, TMIoverload, Louie the Lilac, Torgamous, Piell, Brandark, KnightofTempest, AZATHOTHoth, Void Stalker, Tylonius, DragonParadox, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose, Goldfish
[X] Invite him in, to join in the conversation/game, but explain you don't have room for his friends in the compartment as well.
No. of votes: 16
Zaratustra, Grass, Larekko12, Kerfirou, Enjou, the DragonBard, Crazy7s1, TotallyNotEvil, WCSII, Evaunit02mark1, Heretek, R. E. Lee, skaro, Mandabar, owrtho, Bloodalchemy
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
No. of votes: 7
Datakim, Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, solodark28
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
No. of votes: 7
Datakim, Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, solodark28
[X] Relax, Draco. They only laughed because the way you introduced yourself reminded us of a very famous movie. In fact, they would have cracked up just as much had I responded by saying, 'Potter. Harry Potter.' Your actual name had nothing to do with it. Now, you want to join us? I'm about to teach the others how DD works, and the more the merrier!
No. of votes: 2
EasyCo, Mandabar
[X] Shut the door in his face, you don't feel like dealing with snobs.
No. of votes: 1
sleepyforest
[X] Invite him in, and his friends, too.
No. of votes: 1
Swimmingly
[X] Thank him for his time but explain that you would figure it out yourself
No. of votes: 1
Great_BrightSlap
[x] So... Couple of things... First, you're introducing yourself first by your surname. Indicating that you believe your family to be of the utmost importance, even more than your own identity. Then you re-introduce yourself, using your first name and your last name. Do you have a middle name? And, is that your actual full name? (Harry is wondering if he can find out Draco's True Name, which, per most magical systems, gives you some power over others. He has previously determined he will not give his full name to anybody at school, just in case.
No. of votes: 1
IceWing
Anyways, gonna change my vote because I like shenanigans.
[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Poker
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
The problem with your little joke, @Halpo133, is that it's actually plausible. Since I assume Harry is aware of Animagi due to the purchasable trait as well as eating both the Harry Potter books and the Lockhart books, we'll be busting out the Homomorphous Charm, petrifying Peter, and then getting the next level in Paladin.
And hell, it might go a long way to reforming Draco if he does register as evil. A magic spell that objectively says "you're evil" saying he is so might shake his worldview. Then again, it might not work on him - he doesn't have murder in him, so he might not really be evil enough to register as such.
[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Poker
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
The problem with your little joke, @Halpo133, is that it's actually plausible. Since I assume Harry is aware of Animagi due to the purchasable trait as well as eating both the Harry Potter books and the Lockhart books, we'll be busting out the Homomorphous Charm, petrifying Peter, and then getting the next level in Paladin.
And hell, it might go a long way to reforming Draco if he does register as evil. A magic spell that objectively says "you're evil" saying he is so might shake his worldview. Then again, it might not work on him - he doesn't have murder in him, so he might not really be evil enough to register as such.
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Holy crap! You are right. Malfoy is a bigot, but a 11 year old child raised to be that way is unlikely to register as evil. Pettigrew however is a serial murderering traitor who served Voldemort and still carries a brand full of dark magic. He should shine like a freaking sun to the detect evil spell. He also does not have a wand, so this Harry should have little trouble "defeating him". Not only do we get a level in paladin, but we reveal Sirius innocent in front of multiple witnesses. Not a bad job before we are even sorted.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
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[X] Let the conversation continue. Surely nothing bad will happen.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
I can´t remember exact mechanics of titles but shouldn´t we change title from BWL to minimize fallout and negative change in relationship if Draco dislikes Harry´s approach ?
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
I can´t remember exact mechanics of titles but shouldn´t we change title from BWL to minimize fallout and negative change in relationship if Draco dislikes Harry´s approach ?
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[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Teach them D&D.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Teach them D&D.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
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