Don't think we can get that. It is not a learned skill.
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Don't think we can get that. It is not a learned skill.
Thank god, the universe would laugh and make us domestic elves.
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If you will all bear with me a moment, I have a few alternate ways of looking at the houses. Perhaps it will give us insight into which would be best.
One method of looking at the houses is such
Ravenclaw = Donatello, Shikamaru, Professor Xavier, Peter Parker
Gryffindor = Raphael, Natsu Dragneel, Erza Scarlet, Wolverine, Son Goku
Hufflepuff = Michelangelo, Shirahama Kenichi, Uzumaki Naruto, Rock Lee
Slytherin = Leonardo, Lelouch, Monkey D. Luffy, Ainz Ooal Gown,
While not perfect, it gives a alternate way of looking at the houses as we may want to interpret them.
We can can interpret these houses in many different ways, just as each character could be placed in other houses for various reasons.
Our interpretation of our own character and the houses will matter more than canon.
Slytherin could be aspirations of Leadership. It could be based in talent, or the long fight to the top.
Gryffindor could be either the shield that takes the hits, or the sword that breaks the enemy.
Hufflepuff could be hard work overcoming talent, careful preparation, or synergy between allies in differing roles
Ravenclaw can be invention, thirst for knowledge, or strategic planning.
We should create our ideal and make a house fit us instead of trying to fit into something too narrow or exactly as it does in the books.
One method of looking at the houses is such
Ravenclaw = Donatello, Shikamaru, Professor Xavier, Peter Parker
Gryffindor = Raphael, Natsu Dragneel, Erza Scarlet, Wolverine, Son Goku
Hufflepuff = Michelangelo, Shirahama Kenichi, Uzumaki Naruto, Rock Lee
Slytherin = Leonardo, Lelouch, Monkey D. Luffy, Ainz Ooal Gown,
While not perfect, it gives a alternate way of looking at the houses as we may want to interpret them.
We can can interpret these houses in many different ways, just as each character could be placed in other houses for various reasons.
Our interpretation of our own character and the houses will matter more than canon.
Slytherin could be aspirations of Leadership. It could be based in talent, or the long fight to the top.
Gryffindor could be either the shield that takes the hits, or the sword that breaks the enemy.
Hufflepuff could be hard work overcoming talent, careful preparation, or synergy between allies in differing roles
Ravenclaw can be invention, thirst for knowledge, or strategic planning.
We should create our ideal and make a house fit us instead of trying to fit into something too narrow or exactly as it does in the books.
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So as soon as we get time are we going hunting for the room of requirement? We can have our own Deathstar or a moon castle in that room.
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The problem is that is too abstract. Houses are inhabited by people and those people are not ideal forms. What they are is influenced by recent history and current events. Slytherin right now for instance is full of the children of Death Eaters and imprinted with their poisonous ideology.
I do not think it is all-powerful or someone would have blown up the castle by now.
If it doubles as an existing skill we can get additional spells for that skill.
Here's the magic used in LoTR and how it might translate to our skills...
The Fellowship of the Ring:
Conjure Fire -> Conjuration gets fire conjuring.
Create Light -> Light Creation Charm
Open the Doors of Moria -> Door Opening Charm, opens heavy doors
Bless Sam's pony -> Extends Divine Prayer: Blessing to be useable on animals, or just gives +Faith skill
Holding the doors in the Chamber of Mazarbul -> Door Holding Charm, holds doors shut
Reading Frodo's mind -> +Leglimency
Telling the severity of an injury magically -> Mage Sight skill that adds a bonus to detecting HP and status effects or a Healing charm that gives the user information on an injury.
Giant wave to sweep Nazgul away -> Probably some bonus to the levitation charm to make it easier to control water with it.
The Two Towers:
Disarming Aragorn and Gimli -> Improved Disarming Charm?
Destroying an arrow -> Projectile Destruction Charm
Using voice to compel/dismiss someone -> D&D Command spell, or a similar charm
Destroying Sarumon's staff - Charm that breaks wands and staffs and stuff, instead of just disarming
The Return of the King:
Shaft of light to drive of Nazguls -> Alternative to Patronus, or more powerful Patronus
The Silmarillion:
Shape Changing -> +Metamorphagus
Putting a large number of people in a deep slumber -> AOE Deep Sleep Hex
Hiding Identity -> Identity Obscuring Charm
Creating a large barrier that is impervious for a time -> High end barrier charm.
So, lots of stuff we could get just from the magic alone.
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Grandmaster of Apologism, Keeper of the Faith
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Quite a bit of this is really off.
Shikamaru most certainly doesn't fit in Ravenclaw - Ravenclaw prizes learning, knowledge for knowledge's sake. Shikamaru hates studying. Or hard work, for that matter. He admires mediocrity, so Slytherin's out. The closest is probably Hufflefpuff (he's loyal, given Asuma's arc or post-canon where he's willing to work hard for the sake of his village, or the backstory with Chouji) or Gryffindor (Hidan arc, attempting to sacrifice his life to stall the sound ninjas during the CE arc without a moment's hesitation), with Shikamaru's personal inclination being Gryffindor even if his highly loyal personality would suggest Hufflepuff, despite the aversion to hard work, because he can gain friends even there while in Hufflepuff he'd be expected to work hard in addition to it.
Ainz is most certainly not one for Slytherin. He has little to no ambition personally - it's his subordinates that want to conquer the world out of a misunderstanding. The house that fits him best is, ironically, Hufflepuff - his driving motivation has always been to meet his friends again, and to recapture his days with them. Over time, this has extended to loyalty to his subordinates, something shown with Shalltear's arc.
Just noting a few things. There are others off, but these seemed the most glaring ones.
It's actually pretty interesting when you go deep into character personalities and realize how different surface impressions can be from the real thing.
It most certainly isn't. It can't even make food.
There are also two instances of fortresses being destroyed by banishing the Evil out of them: Galadriel at Dol Guldur and Luthien for one of Sauron's fortresses the name of which I can't recall.
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Consuming a skill book will let you answer anything about what was in that book. Not quite word for word, but close. It's like reading through the book with a high level of comprehension to what you've read.
Essentially. Most love potions try to stick you with the mental status [charmed] or the like. No matter how they do it. But there may be some that would try to hit you with a physical status effect, in which case instead of trying to stick you with the status [charmed] it would try to stick you with the status [poisoned: Love potion]. And that would not be affected by your Gamer's Mind. But that isn't to say it would do what it was supposed to, since even though you'd have the status effect Gamer's Mind would negate psychological effects of the poison, while leaving the physical ones intact. It's like being bitten by something with a neurotoxin. You'd take regular HP damage from the venom destroying your body in some way, but you wouldn't suffer the hallucinations and the like.
Cool. What about the fiction books? I imagine we could answer most questions about D&D, but could we answer stuff about the events in the Harry Potter and Lockhart books?
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They do not conflict
This is redundant. The protections that this provides are
1. +2 AC +2 saving throws against attacks by [alignment]
2. immunity to mind effecting regardless of alignment
3. can't be approached by summoned beings of [alignment]
You are specifically saying you want it for #2, but #2 is specifically the part that doesn't care about alignment. protection from good is an excellent way to stop voldemort from mind raping you.
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Protection from Evil would help at the end of book 1, as it would stop what Voldie did to knock Harry out after Quirrell died. Or at least help.
Also, Magic Jar might help catch Voldie and prevent him from doing anything. Giving Harry lots of time to take out the Horcrux.
Also, Magic Jar might help catch Voldie and prevent him from doing anything. Giving Harry lots of time to take out the Horcrux.
Hmm. The talk about LOTR reminded me of the scene in the movie where Saruman is "banished" from the body of the king. Dunno if that scene is in the book, but it did lead me to a thought.
What about learning somekind of banishment/exorcism type magic? Once Harry learns about all the magical critters, ghosts and spirits and the like, its not beyond reason for us to justify Harry wanting to have the power to force out invading foreign entities from physical bodies.
Being able to take Quirrell alive by banishing Voldemort could result in a significant intel coup for us, if we can kick Voldemort out and then interrogate the guy (or just read his mind if we can at that point), we can potentially learn a lot.
What about learning somekind of banishment/exorcism type magic? Once Harry learns about all the magical critters, ghosts and spirits and the like, its not beyond reason for us to justify Harry wanting to have the power to force out invading foreign entities from physical bodies.
Being able to take Quirrell alive by banishing Voldemort could result in a significant intel coup for us, if we can kick Voldemort out and then interrogate the guy (or just read his mind if we can at that point), we can potentially learn a lot.
It's on the to do list for the Cleric class.
http://pandaria.rpgworlds.info/cant/rules/adnd_spells.htm#Exorcise
I specifically want it so we can preserve the various magical artifacts that Voldemort shoved his soul into without destroying them.
It's not... explicitly though Theoden makes his recovery a bit fast for his ailments to have been wholly natural IMO.
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Wrong edition. Third edition has not come out yet in the quest, and Harry is using AD&D rules. The spell Protection from Evil is described as:
Notably there is no Protection from Law/Chaos in this edition (at least not among the core rules), and the spell does not provide immunity to mind control effects (just a +2 to saves if the caster is of the noted alignment).
You are thinking of the wrong spell. Magic Jar allows the caster to possess someone else. What you seem to want is Trap the Soul which is the spell used to, as the name implies, trap the target's soul.
owrtho
So Protection for Evil is basically useless for our purposes.
Cool. And good point about the artifacts. The Diadem was supposed to enhance intelligence? Hopefully theres no (Ravenclaw only) property in it. I wonder how soon we could realistically acquire that thing? Would be easy with metaknowledge. Ohwell.
Looking at the link:
We can assume that Voldemort is much higher level, so we will likely get lots of -1% in the level comparison. On the other hand, I would argue that since Voldemort is the possessor, our anti-Voldemort "A Mother's Love"-trait should hopefully count as some degree of artifact or relic, giving us a bonus when it comes to anti-Voldemort exorcism.
I dunno if this spell could be used on Quirrell though? It has a slow casting time, and may have to be repeated several times (or am I incorrect?). We would have to capture and bind Quirrell physically, and then make sure Voldemort can't kill Quirell while escaping as a spirit to keep his secrets safe. Any plans for that?
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Not useless, just not as good. It still grants a +2 to the save provided the caster is evil. Also if we ever encounter a summoned creature, it would be unable to approach within 1 foot of us (for instance the snake Draco summons in the second book during duelling club). Oddly it seems all summoned creatures are blocked by said effect, regardless of alignment.
owrtho
The Imperius Curse is very hard to resist so I do not think a +2 will matter much and summoned creatures are rarely used as more than distractions in serious HP wizard duels.
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This is my point. The characters we see in canon fit just as well as these. Choice matters, but so does natural inclination. For example, Shikamaru would have outright picked Hufflepuff because it sounds easiest, but Ravenclaw herself would have fought tooth and claw to get him in her house.
And Ainz has already stated that world domination would be fun and his goal is to spread his name across the world. That would be straight up Slytherin.
Just as you can say that many of these don't fit, I can say that they do... From a certain point of view, that is. From another, they fit to a different house.
As it is, we can enter any house with whatever interpretation we want.
Say we want Griffindor. Why? What is our reasoning for choosing it? We could go the Bravery route. We could take the brash Juggernaut route.
Slytherin? Maybe we decide to rule them by any means necessary. Force them through various methods to fit our viewpoint. Seduce them with the muggle world.
Hufflepuff? Never stop leveling, go for an everybody lives ending. Build up a team of compatible party members to maximize our effectiveness.
Ravenclaw? Eat all the books, Learn every skill, make new skills. Or consider Voldemort to be just a distraction from schoolwork.
Instead of getting caught up on what school we match up with, we should just make ourselves what we want, and take that route.
We can do what we want without arguing over what house we fit into better.
Because is is not just about ideals but also about the situation on the ground. I do not want Harry to share a House with a bunch of pure-blood-supremacist brats who's parents are Death Eaters.
I was not thinking about Harry but about equipping the entire Order or even most of the Aurores with them.
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