The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)

[DragonParadox]

Like we won't get that anyways. It cannonically came from the Hat, and even if we don't get it via that, we can grab it ourselves from Dumbledore.

Now that is just wrong. All the houses is about what matters most to the student. Bravery, Knowledge, Power, or in the Hufflepuff's case, Loyalty. And they aren't even lack-luster in the various magic things. Cedric is among the best students in Hogwarts, and he's a Hufflepuff

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"Good Hufflepuff she'll take the rest and teach them all she knew"

Loyalty and hard work are how they cope with being quintessentially mediocre except for once in a century miracles like Cedric.

1) Plot will go NOTHING like it did cannonically. Ignoring that we will probably be so OP that even if we let them do whatever they wanted to our sleeping body, they would be unable to put a scratch on us (we might even kick all their butts while we are still sleeping), they wouldn't even have any reason to hate us. We are working for them and with them.
2) They'd probably rather like us even early on. I mean, it would be a HUGE shocker that we joined, and a month or two they might be suspicious, but as we played their games, interacted with them like a nice person, and got them tons of house points, they wouldn't be able to help but like us. Again, we are working with them, not against them. And if Draco is on our side, all the better with how much pull he has in the house.
3)The rest of the school would be shocked, but not overly suspicious. For A) it's mostly just Gryffindor that has a hate-on for Slytherin, and B) the hate-on isn't even THAT big, it's more like how dedicated sports-fans can get to their team and collage, and hate their rivals.

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For heaven's sake Slytherin in Harry's year is lousy with the children of magical terrorists who are future magical terrorists themselves because that is the way they have ben and will be brought up. Just being friends with Hermione will guarantee we can't make friends there and will make enemies.

I'm just going to stop here because this sort of observing Slytherin and particularly the likes of Malfoy through rose-tinted lenses is giving me a headache

 

[WCSII]

Meh, we either take the houses as they are supposed to be in canon... courageous Gryfindors, which actually won't be rife with quests, challenges, maybe, but not quests. Cunning, and Ambitious Slytherin, this one will be the one chock full of quests... it's in the description of the house. Witty, and Knowledgeable Ravenclaw... yeah, it'll have skills sprouting out the ass, and then some... but we're not likely to get the chance to grind to many of them, and more than a few aren't going to be useful... and we'd only have one quest there... Save Luna (and maybe Hermione if she gets sorted there) And lastly is Loyal Hufflepuff. It really doesn't have any descriptions. But if it's loyalty they're looking for, we'd probably have a fair mix of skill gains, quests, and challenges.

However, my head canon says that shit got turned around sometime in the last ten to thirty years in the school. If my memory serves, Ravenclaw is the new Slytherin, what with their newly acquired tendency to be cunning, and ambitious. Slytherin, is actually the new Gryfindor, charging before thinking. Hufflepuff is actually the new Ravenclaw, hard working, acquire knowledge, and make strides while everyone else is sneering at them, they're the one's getting everything done. And Gryfindor is the new Hufflepuff, demanding loyalty to the house above all, conformity, and pretty much the dumping ground of those to lazy to make an effort, to stupid to learn anything, or to cowardly to do anything that ignores fear; or those that just don't want to go into the other houses because of this, that, or the other. Yet, Slytherin is still the house of quests, Ravenclaw is still the house of skills, Gryfindor is still the house of challenges, and Hufflepuff will still be the house that balances skill gain, quests, and challenges.

 

[DragonParadox]

Meh, we either take the houses as they are supposed to be in canon... courageous Gryfindors, which actually won't be rife with quests, challenges, maybe, but not quests. Cunning, and Ambitious Slytherin, this one will be the one chock full of quests... it's in the description of the house. Witty, and Knowledgeable Ravenclaw... yeah, it'll have skills sprouting out the ass, and then some... but we're not likely to get the chance to grind to many of them, and more than a few aren't going to be useful... and we'd only have one quest there... Save Luna (and maybe Hermione if she gets sorted there) And lastly is Loyal Hufflepuff. It really doesn't have any descriptions. But if it's loyalty they're looking for, we'd probably have a fair mix of skill gains, quests, and challenges.

However, my head canon says that shit got turned around sometime in the last ten to thirty years in the school. If my memory serves, Ravenclaw is the new Slytherin, what with their newly acquired tendency to be cunning, and ambitious. Slytherin, is actually the new Gryfindor, charging before thinking. Hufflepuff is actually the new Ravenclaw, hard working, acquire knowledge, and make strides while everyone else is sneering at them, they're the one's getting everything done. And Gryfindor is the new Hufflepuff, demanding loyalty to the house above all, conformity, and pretty much the dumping ground of those to lazy to make an effort, to stupid to learn anything, or to cowardly to do anything that ignores fear; or those that just don't want to go into the other houses because of this, that, or the other. Yet, Slytherin is still the house of quests, Ravenclaw is still the house of skills, Gryfindor is still the house of challenges, and Hufflepuff will still be the house that balances skill gain, quests, and challenges.

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for all this stuff because it sounds like fanom.

 

[WCSII]

for all this stuff because it sounds like fanom.

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Sure, how about:

However, my head canon says that shit got turned around sometime in the last ten to thirty years in the school. If my memory serves, Ravenclaw is the new Slytherin, what with their newly acquired tendency to be cunning, and ambitious. Slytherin, is actually the new Gryfindor, charging before thinking. Hufflepuff is actually the new Ravenclaw, hard working, acquire knowledge, and make strides while everyone else is sneering at them, they're the one's getting everything done. And Gryfindor is the new Hufflepuff, demanding loyalty to the house above all, conformity, and pretty much the dumping ground of those to lazy to make an effort, to stupid to learn anything, or to cowardly to do anything that ignores fear; or those that just don't want to go into the other houses because of this, that, or the other. Yet, Slytherin is still the house of quests, Ravenclaw is still the house of skills, Gryfindor is still the house of challenges, and Hufflepuff will still be the house that balances skill gain, quests, and challenges.

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If you're needing references as to why I think this... We only see Draco, and his ilk representing Slytherin, the bullies that torture, and torment Luna in Ravenclaw, and well the entire series for Gryfindor... the only ones we don't get to know is Hufflepuff... hence why I said it's my head canon

 

[Trondason]

"Good Hufflepuff she'll take the rest and teach them all she knew"

Loyalty and hard work are how they cope with being quintessentially mediocre except for once in a century miracles like Cedric.

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Because the other houses took only those they wanted. They were picky. Hufflepuff doesn't care who you are, she will love you anyways.
And the others didn't choose off of ability "For instance, Slytherin Took only pure-blood wizards Of great cunning just like him. And only those of sharpest mind Were taught by Ravenclaw While the bravest and the boldest Went to daring Gryffindor."
Slytherin only wanted the schemers, specifically pure-blood schemers though either teh Sorting Hat didn't care about blood-purity, or he only had a preference and not a strict rule. Ravenclaw only wanted the smartest, those who dedicated all their time to studying and learning. Gryffindor only wanted the bravest and boldest, those who actively seek adventure and danger.
That leaves Hufflepuff, who doesn't care who you are, and that became their thing, open acceptance of almost anyone, loyalty to their kin, hard-working and just.

For heaven's sake Slytherin in Harry's year is lousy with the children of magical terrorists who are future magical terrorists themselves because that is the way they have ben and will be brought up. Just being friends with Hermione will guarantee we can't make friends there and will make enemies.

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Except for all the Slytherin who fought FOR Hogwarts, AGAINST the Death Eaters. Hell, only a small fraction of Slytherin COULD be the children of the Death Eaters, there are only so many of them after all.
Calling Slytherin evil because of the Death Eaters is like calling Germany evil because of the Nazi's. You can even use the argument that the kids of Germany were raised by Nazi's, with Nazi beliefs, will grow up to be Nazi's.

 

[DragonParadox]

Because the other houses took only those they wanted. They were picky. Hufflepuff doesn't care who you are, she will love you anyways.
And the others didn't choose off of ability "For instance, Slytherin Took only pure-blood wizards Of great cunning just like him. And only those of sharpest mind Were taught by Ravenclaw While the bravest and the boldest Went to daring Gryffindor."
Slytherin only wanted the schemers, specifically pure-blood schemers though either teh Sorting Hat didn't care about blood-purity, or he only had a preference and not a strict rule. Ravenclaw only wanted the smartest, those who dedicated all their time to studying and learning. Gryffindor only wanted the bravest and boldest, those who actively seek adventure and danger.
That leaves Hufflepuff, who doesn't care who you are, and that became their thing, open acceptance of almost anyone, loyalty to their kin, hard-working and just.

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Nope Just is Griffendor's thing. Hufflepuff's thing is everyone else and acceptance. Also while there have been half-bloods in Slytherin canonically there is not a single Muggleborn

Except for all the Slytherin who fought FOR Hogwarts, AGAINST the Death Eaters. Hell, only a small fraction of Slytherin COULD be the children of the Death Eaters, there are only so many of them after all.
Calling Slytherin evil because of the Death Eaters is like calling Germany evil because of the Nazi's. You can even use the argument that the kids of Germany were raised by Nazi's, with Nazi beliefs, will grow up to be Nazi's.

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Nope at the end they did not fight for either side. Rowling has been called out on this but it is canon.

 

[Godogma]

Demonstrably a great majority of them did. Because if you didn't the consequences were very dire. When the Nazi's were in power if you didn't believe in their rhetoric in Germany if you had a valuable skill; you joined and kept your mouth shut, died or managed to eventually escape Germany... If you were a regular person you either escaped or were very very quiet about it and just tried to survive. Perhaps you helped a few people along the way but your priority was keeping your head down and surviving.

Slytherin before Voldemort's rebirth is a house full of the children of Voldemort's former supporters; at least a great many of them anyway. Frankly unless you add in the people that weren't mentioned in the books that only exist due to Word of JKR Harry's class in Hogwarts has very few neutral born children except the muggleborn. Their parents mostly seem to have fought on one side or the other.

Slytherin isn't a feasible place for Harry; which is why so many Slytherin Harry fics fall flat and I can't recall a single one that's actually decent off the top of my head. There are entirely too many enemies involved.

 

[Trondason]

Nope Just is Griffendor's thing. Hufflepuff's thing is everyone else and acceptance. Also while there have been half-bloods in Slytherin canonically there is not a single Muggleborn

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You might belong in Gryffindor,
Where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve, and chivalry
Set Gryffindors apart;

You might belong in Hufflepuff,
Where they are just and loyal,
Those patient Hufflepuffs are true
And unafraid of toil;

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That is the only time the word just is used (with that meaning), and it's applied to the Hufflepuff. Not Gryffindor. Heck, Gryffindor doesn't even have anything about doing good, it's always Bravery, Daring, Nerve, and only mentions Chivalry once (which has more to do with dueling and Honor, than being kind or doing the right thing).

Nope at the end they did not fight for either side. Rowling has been called out on this but it is canon.

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Except, you know, Horace Slughorn. Head of Slytherin for the final year. And he brought along several students, who weren't named that I could find, but were in fact mentioned.

 

[DragonParadox]

Except, you know, Horace Slughorn. Head of Slytherin for the final year. And he brought along several students, who weren't named that I could find, but were in fact mentioned.

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And were any of those students in Harry's year? As they were unnamed I'm going to say no. But you know who was in Harry's year? The twit who suggested joining Voldemort (Pansy Parkinson) proving she was both an idiot and a indoctrinated supporter.

The fact of the matter is that even in the eleventh hour the Slytherins we will be interacting the most were very much the villeins of the piece

 

[Trondason]

And were any of those students in Harry's year? As they were unnamed I'm going to say no. But you know who was in Harry's year? The twit who suggested joining Voldemort (Pansy Parkinson) proving she was both an idiot and a indoctrinated supporter

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Considering it was the 7th year, they were either his year, or a year younger. And odds are they were among the older portion of students (I doubt they would even let 1st or 2nd years fight, even if they wanted too).
Besides, Pansy suggesting that hardly proves she's either a idiot, or indoctrinated supporter. One of Slytherin's things is self-preservation. People do wild things when their lives are on the line. You honestly think that no-one outside Slytherin weren't thinking something similar. "Give up Harry. We don't have to fight, we don't have to die. Let him die." Especially given how terrified EVERYONE (not just Slytherin) are of Voldemort, considering the vast majority can't even bare to say his name, despite him being dead since before they were born (until he became not-dead a few years ago, atleast).

 

[the DragonBard]

Cannon occlumency was a very obscure and had to master art. Anything less than multiple years is pushing it, unless I'm missing something about The Gamer.

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Draco canonically learned it the summer between fifth and sixth year, suggested to have been from his aunt Bellatrix.

 

[DragonParadox]

Considering it was the 7th year, they were either his year, or a year younger. And odds are they were among the older portion of students (I doubt they would even let 1st or 2nd years fight, even if they wanted too).
Besides, Pansy suggesting that hardly proves she's either a idiot, or indoctrinated supporter. One of Slytherin's things is self-preservation. People do wild things when their lives are on the line. You honestly think that no-one outside Slytherin weren't thinking something similar. "Give up Harry. We don't have to fight, we don't have to die. Let him die." Especially given how terrified EVERYONE (not just Slytherin) are of Voldemort, considering the vast majority can't even bare to say his name, despite him being dead since before they were born (until he became not-dead a few years ago, atleast).

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Pansy was surrounded by her punitive future enemies when she made the suggestion thus she is either an idiot or indoctrinated because the good guys could hex her just fine too. The proper cunning thing to do would have been to agree to fight Voldemort and then turn her cloak mid-battle.

Also the school is not made up solely of 7th years and 1st and 2nd years. I suspect Slughorn would have taken everyone Fourth Year and older. Even so only a few Slytherins fought.

 

[Grass]

You see, this is why I want a monster party, humans are such fickle creatures, earn an animals trust and it will die for you, thinking nothing of itself it will throw itself into deaths path and bare whatever weapons it has to protect you, if it's loyal enough at least, and hell's bells we're the gamer, to us loyalty is but a number. And we can grind numbers.

 

[Trondason]

Pansy was surrounded by her punitive future enemies when she made the suggestion thus she is either an idiot or indoctrinated because the good guys could hex her just fine too. The proper cunning thing to do would have been to agree to fight Voldemort and then turn her cloak mid-battle.

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The class students are less likely to hex her than the giant army out side that is promising to kill her and everyone else. Especially since, as we saw, no-one hexed her. Willing to, sure, but they didn't.

The proper cunning thing to do would have been to agree to fight Voldemort and then turn her cloak mid-battle.

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Like that worked so well for everyone else who has done so (like Regulus Black). Voldemort is nigh unbeatable, no matter the odds arranged against him. Harry and Dumbledore is the only ones to have ever stood against him and lived, and Dumbles is dead, and Harry hasn't that good of a track-record lately (especially since he's been hiding who-knows where for the past year).

Also the school is not made up solely of 7th years and 1st and 2nd years. I suspect Slughorn would have taken everyone Fourth Year and older.

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I know, just 4th year and up leaves only 3 years they could be from, one of which is Harry's. And the years after harry's shouldn't have LESS Death-eater kids, if anything it should have more, because after Harry was born (and a few months passed for V to come knocking) the Death-eaters don't got a leader anymore, and no war to fight, so might as well settle down and have kids.

Even so only a few Slytherins fought.

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Because they were KICKED OUT. Whether or not they were evil, they were almost universally hated by that point, treated as if they were Death Eaters and supported Voldemort, and come the time of the final battle not even given a choice to stay. Those who fought with Horace CAME BACK, to face what they felt very well could be their death.

Edit: Probably should end this here. "Off topic conversation", and what not (not like there is anything better to discuss right now, and is a core part of harry potter, the world the quest takes place in *Grumble grumble*)

 

[EasyCo]

Idea for the sequel, apparently there is a 4th level Cleric spell Speak With Plants.

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Well, I had a lot of fun writing the other one, and what was even better was knowing that what I wrote made even a single person laugh. So, what the heck. I'll give it a go sometime today.

 

[Trondason]

You see, this is why I want a monster party, humans are such fickle creatures, earn an animals trust and it will die for you, thinking nothing of itself it will throw itself into deaths path and bare whatever weapons it has to protect you, if it's loyal enough at least, and hell's bells we're the gamer, to us loyalty is but a number. And we can grind numbers.

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No particular reason we can't treat humans the same. Some moral issues, but nothing mechanical. Humans have a Relations stat, that we can grind up, and we can even use magical abilities to cheat it up if we are in a hurry.

 

[DragonParadox]

No particular reason we can't treat humans the same. Some moral issues, but nothing mechanical. Humans have a Relations stat, that we can grind up, and we can even use magical abilities to cheat it up if we are in a hurry.

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Humans also have contentions with other humans like say Draco and his father which would be very difficult to overcome to overcome.

But let's just drop this. It is clear we are on opposite sides of the debate. I see most Slytherins we re likely to encounter at school as target practice and it will take a great deal of effort on their part to convince me otherwise.

 

[skaro]

Hmm,allow weasley for now,we don't need to be antagonize people.Maybe we should go to back of train and use locking charm to prevent people bother with us.

Also love potion become popular because Molly actuallt talk about that in "Girl talk" in the group.

Which is ironic that the whole serie start because some witch use love potion on Muggle.

I even see some fic blame Riddle Sr.but I think he just victim of love potion.

 

[DragonParadox]

Hmm,allow weasley for now,we don't need to be antagonize people.Maybe we should go to back of train and use locking charm to prevent people bother with us.

Also love potion become popular because Molly actuallt talk about that in "Girl talk" in the group.

Which is ironic that the whole serie start because some witch use love potion on Muggle.

I even see some fic blame Riddle Sr.but I think he just victim of love potion.

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What a lot of people forget is not every Love Potion is Amoretia (sp?). Most of them do not enslave the will utterly.

What Merope Gaunt did was not only i legal it is also highly visible.

 

[skaro]

What a lot of people forget is not every Love Potion is Amoretia (sp?). Most of them do not enslave the will utterly.

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Really?Can we call love potion if it don't produce lust?(they can not produce real love,love already lock up in mystery department)

I alway use Ron action under love potion as an example.

Made people can not give consent in their right mind= lack of consent=rape.

 

[DragonParadox]

Really?Can we call love potion if it don't produce lust?(they can not produce real love,love already lock up in mystery department)

I alway use Ron action under love potion as an example.

Made people can not give consent in their right mind= lack of consent=rape.

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It is a matter of degree. The twins were selling love potion and Lavender Brown used a sort of love potion on Ron yet there was no rash of students completely and incontrovertibly enthralled.

 

[skaro]

It is a matter of degree. The twins were selling love potion and Lavender Brown used a sort of love potion on Ron yet there was no rash of students completely and incontrovertibly enthralled.

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Remember that Ron take love potion instead of Harry in Slughorn's room.?

Yeah love potion is that bad,the victim don't know what wrong with them.

 

[Enjou]

Remember that Ron take love potion instead of Harry in Slughorn's room.?

Yeah love potion is that bad,the victim don't know what wrong with them.

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Fortunately Harry can drink one to no ill effect.

 

[DragonParadox]

Remember that Ron take love potion instead of Harry in Slughorn's room.?

Yeah love potion is that bad,the victim don't know what wrong with them.

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Yet Ron was able to avoid Lavender afterwards until the effect wore off. The difference between what Merope Gaunt did and what Lavender did Is like the difference between being drugged and being brainwashed.

 

[WCSII]

Fortunately Harry can drink one to no ill effect.

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We presume. OP has not weighed in on issue as of yet, nor has OP confirmed Purify food either reduce, or negate potion intention.