The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)

You know I'm sorry for starting this couple page argument.
So how long would it take our friends to become somewhat masters in occlumency? One year? Two years?
Would rather largely depend on the exacts of the Party Mechanics. It is only very barely explored in canon. If it makes them basically other Gamers, then not long at all. If they have to learn at their own rate, several years (ignoring stat-boosts from grinding and leveling up).
 
Cannon Draco came in with an ultimatum, him and his cronies or Ron. Barring any special circumstances, he's more than likely going to do the same here. How exactly do you want Harry to respond to that without snubbing Draco or going wildly OOC?

Doing something other than explicitly snubbing him and showing disdain - Harry shut the door on even the possibility of a positive relationship by rejecting Draco the way he did. We might try disagreeing in a more civil manner, say that perhaps they could discuss the matter later on, and offering him some candy we got from the trolly as a peace offering to break the tension a bit.


Bones is of the right sort, so is Hannah. Ron technically is, even if he's a blood-traitor. He might just assume Hermione is fine.

Neville is also pure-blooded, and their family is considered much more respected than the Weasley family. (and Neville hasn't had a chance to get a personal reputation for being bad at magic, and shouldn't since he's got a suitable want this time)


Cannon occlumency was a very obscure and had to master art. Anything less than multiple years is pushing it, unless I'm missing something about The Gamer.

Gamer bullshit should make it easier - just invite them to the party, give them a skill book to gain the skill, and then let them grind.
 
No, I'm saying the problem isn't that he thinks Hermione isn't a person. Racists think they are people, just bad/lesser people.
I'm also saying that as long as he's civil in his beliefs, he can believe whatever he wants. How he acts is the matter, not specifically how he thinks (related things, but ultimately different). If he doesn't go around insulting her, we can be friends with him just fine, and work on his beliefs. If he isn't willing to check himself, then he's not willing to put effort into the friendship, and then we aren't friends with him.

We already know Blood Purists are a thing, and plan on fixing it eventually. Unless said fixing is Genocide, we'd have to actually deal with them in a sorta nice manner.

Susan, Hannah, and Hermione might be more than enough to change his approach here. It's not just Ron (who have a mutual hate-ship going on).
Racists absolutely detest who they hate. Slavery, gas chambers, mass executions aren't comitted on people you don't like or think are bad.
I don't think you quite realize exactly how arrogant and proud Draco was. He worships his father, a known muggle hater. He walked into a train compartment and proceeded to insult half the occupants. The Sorting Hat took less than a second to put him in Slytherin. We aren't changing his views and we have absolutely no IC reason to befriend him. Sure we want to fix the blood purist problem, but you don't do it by picking the first (and one of the most ardent) believer and make him change his minds.
 
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We already know Blood Purists are a thing, and plan on fixing it eventually. Unless said fixing is Genocide, we'd have to actually deal with them in a sorta nice manner.
That doesn't mean actually being friends with one. It means applying political pressure and having Muggle Pride parades and shit.
 
Doing something other than explicitly snubbing him and showing disdain - Harry shut the door on even the possibility of a positive relationship by rejecting Draco the way he did. We might try disagreeing in a more civil manner, say that perhaps they could discuss the matter later on, and offering him some candy we got from the trolly as a peace offering to break the tension a bit.

Not only have you just asked Draco to mingle with people (Ron and more than likely Hermione) he considers inferior, you've also demonstrated to your friends (one of whom is a muggleborn) that you aren't absolutely outraged by the idea of blood supremacy.
 
Would rather largely depend on the exacts of the Party Mechanics. It is only very barely explored in canon. If it makes them basically other Gamers, then not long at all. If they have to learn at their own rate, several years (ignoring stat-boosts from grinding and leveling up).
I though we were going to wait until they can at least guard their thoughts then invite them to the party? Instead of any risk of them having their mind read while their mentally defenselessly and people finding about our ability/
 
Gamer bullshit should make it easier - just invite them to the party, give them a skill book to gain the skill, and then let them grind.
If they can do that in our party. Can't be certain either way. I really dislike how little Han Jee-Han explores his power (or at least that they show us).
Racists absolutely detest the people they don't like. Slavery, gas chambers, mass executions aren't comitted on people you don't like.
I don't think you quite realize exactly how arrogant and proud Draco was. He worships his father, a known muggle hater. He walked into a train compartment and proceeded to insult half the occupants. The Sorting Hat took less than a second to put him in Slytherin. We aren't changing his views and we have absolutely no IC reason to befriend him. Sure we want to fix the blood purist problem, but you don't do it by picking the first (and one of the most ardent) believer and make him change his minds.
Not all racists are radicals. Hell, some can be down-right kind and still be racist as heck (like the teacher from Everybody Hates Chris).
Most kids worship their parents (until you hit teenagers, but even then a fair number still rather like their parents even if they don't much admit it).
Considering half of it's occupants was exactly one person, that's not much of a thing. And I'm pretty sure Ron was exactly as insulting back.
I'm pretty sure the Sorting Hat didn't take long on anyone except Harry and Neville. And being in Slytherin is in no-way a bad thing.
We have a IC reason to befriend him if he tries to befriend us. Let's not just utterly reject him.
I though we were going to wait until they can at least guard their thoughts then invite them to the party? Instead of any risk of them having their mind read while their mentally defenselessly and people finding about our ability/
Getting your mind read isn't as big as a problem as most people in this thread seem to make it out to be. Worrying about that happening is like worrying a sniper might snipe you. It could totally happen. It's more likely to happen because they are important or interact with important people. But it's overall not likely to happen.
 
Not only have you just asked Draco to mingle with people (Ron and more than likely Hermione) he considers inferior, you've also demonstrated to your friends (one of whom is a muggleborn) that you aren't absolutely outraged by the idea of blood supremacy.

He can take the candy and go - we just use the excuse that there's not enough room for him and his goons. No need to mingle.

Also, expressing that we don't agree with Draco's ideology is not exactly a negative thing, so I'm not sure why you think that would cause a big problem. Not everyone has to be visibly outraged by things. We're the Gamer, so being cool headed and collected is part of our personality. Hermione also already knows we disagree with blood supremacy.
 
[X] Near the rear of the train
[X] Allow the boy to sit in the compartment. It's getting rather full though, won't fit but two more person in comfortably at this rate.
 
Not all racists are radicals. Hell, some can be down-right kind and still be racist as heck (like the teacher from Everybody Hates Chris).
Most kids worship their parents (until you hit teenagers, but even then a fair number still rather like their parents even if they don't much admit it).
Considering half of it's occupants was exactly one person, that's not much of a thing. And I'm pretty sure Ron was exactly as insulting back.
I'm pretty sure the Sorting Hat didn't take long on anyone except Harry and Neville. And being in Slytherin is in no-way a bad thing.
We have a IC reason to befriend him if he tries to befriend us. Let's not just utterly reject him.

I actually went back and read the section. Ron laughed at Draco's name and Draco proceeded to insult Ron's whole family and soon after told Harry he'd end up like his parents. I still fail to see the IC reason. He's going to walk in and insult our friends. Idk about you, but those aren't the type of people I try to befriend.

He can take the candy and go - we just use the excuse that there's not enough room for him and his goons. No need to mingle.

Also, expressing that we don't agree with Draco's ideology is not exactly a negative thing, so I'm not sure why you think that would cause a big problem. Not everyone has to be visibly outraged by things. We're the Gamer, so being cool headed and collected is part of our personality. Hermione also already knows we disagree with blood supremacy.

Now you want to tell Draco we'd rather spend our time with blood traitors and mudbloods than with him. The reason it's going to cause a big problem is because, like I've said, Draco has an us vs them mentality. Disagreeing with him means we're against him. Draco is an arrogant prick and he's going to be insulted by us unless we specifically agree with him. You can't have your cake and eat it too and that's what you're trying to do here.
 
[x] Near the middle of the train
[x] Allow the boy to sit in the compartment. It's getting rather full though, won't fit but two more person in comfortably at this rat
 
I actually went back and read the section. Ron laughed at Draco's name and Draco proceeded to insult Ron's whole family and soon after told Harry he'd end up like his parents. I still fail to see the IC reason. He's going to walk in and insult our friends. Idk about you, but those aren't the type of people I try to befriend.
Huh. Didn't recall Draco being that insulting. Especially towards Harry. Damn, that is some bad social skills if he was actually trying to befriend him. Like, very bad. How could Lucius let his son, the heir to his family name and all his political contacts, be so bad at politics?
Anyways, it's entirely plausible he doesn't do that this time, given all the other occupants of the car.
Now you want to tell Draco we'd rather spend our time with blood traitors and mudbloods than with him. The reason it's going to cause a big problem is because, like I've said, Draco has an us vs them mentality. Disagreeing with him means we're against him. Draco is an arrogant prick and he's going to be insulted by us unless we specifically agree with him. You can't have your cake and eat it too and that's what you're trying to do here.
Pretty sure Ron is the only blood-traitor. And he doesn't know Hermione is a Mud-blood.
 
Isn't there a simple way to head off an Draco's attempts at the beginning to talk to us?
We could cast the Room Sealing Charm or the Locking spell on our door to prevent him from finding us.

We just have to avoid him until we get sorted in Gryffindor then he has no reason to approach us anymore.
 
Huh. Didn't recall Draco being that insulting. Especially towards Harry. Damn, that is some bad social skills if he was actually trying to befriend him. Like, very bad. How could Lucius let his son, the heir to his family name and all his political contacts, be so bad at politics?
Anyways, it's entirely plausible he doesn't do that this time, given all the other occupants of the car.

Pretty sure Ron is the only blood-traitor. And he doesn't know Hermione is a Mud-blood.
Doubt he changes his approach. He's pretty arrogant in the books and not that smart to realize that a different approach would be nicer.

Nope, blood traitors are just sympathizers with muggleborns. That qualifies Neville, Susan and probably Hannah. Draco doesn't have to know that a muggleborn is in the compartment to insult them.
 
Isn't there a simple way to head off an Draco's attempts at the beginning to talk to us?
We could cast the Room Sealing Charm or the Locking spell on our door to prevent him from finding us.
What IC reason do we have to do that? Harry isn't nearly as big on CONSTANT VIGILANCE as Moody.
We just have to avoid him until we get sorted in Gryffindor then he has no reason to approach us anymore.
The only problem is, we WANT to interact with him. Just not right now, in a situation we can't control.
Plus, don't be certain we are going to Gryffindor. Going off what happened the Wand Selection, we get a choice of what house we want. I'm personally in favor of Ravenclaw. Don't know what everyone else wants.
Doubt he changes his approach. He's pretty arrogant in the books and not that smart to realize that a different approach would be nicer.
Eh, we will see. Then we will decide on how to respond.
 
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Muggle fiction that it might behoove us to pick up, eh? I'm thinking "the Dresden files" would work pretty good for us. Since it's from the perspective of Dresden, a wizard we'll get access to a large number of magics from that universe not to mention access to another entire magical system. Unless we're restricted to series that exist in the years/time frame Harry potter does, in which case Storm front(the first dresden novel) wasn't published until 2000.

In that case it's 1991 and there's still tons of stuff for us to read/exploit, street fighter, final fantasy, Lovecraft if we're feeling a little too sane, the first wheel of time novel was published in 1990, the list goes on and on.
 
Guys, you're assuming Draco - and his cronies - will be fine with us being friends with Ron the blood traitor, Susan whose Aunt is (as far as I can gather) a political enemy of his father, Neville who has the same problem, and Hermione the muggle born. Hell, even casual acquaintance Hannah Abbot will become his enemy after her mom is murdered by Death Eaters - it's not clear if she was an enemy or a muggle, but the point stands.
 
Can I just point out that even with Gamer's mind and our studies, when Draco goes "There are some people you shouldn't associate with" the likely response from anyone in the room is not very likely to be "OMG NAZI BLOOD PURITY OBSESSED BIGOTS!!!101!)10!|", keeping in mind that everybody in the room is eleven years old.

No, the response at worst is going to be "He's kind of an asshole, isn't he?"
 
Now you want to tell Draco we'd rather spend our time with blood traitors and mudbloods than with him. The reason it's going to cause a big problem is because, like I've said, Draco has an us vs them mentality. Disagreeing with him means we're against him. Draco is an arrogant prick and he's going to be insulted by us unless we specifically agree with him. You can't have your cake and eat it too and that's what you're trying to do here.

I don't think Draco's character is as one dimensional as you're making him out to be, but I think at this point we're just going to need to agree to disagree as we're going in circles.
 
Another point to start thinking about folks.


Where do we want to get sorted to?

Slytherin?
RavenClaw?

Seems like 2 good choices vs boring old lions or even badgers. Ravenclaw more than Slytherin. Then again we are being quite ambitious, and perhaps even a chance of manipulation. Hermione might fit very well in a Ravenclaw house.

We definitely like nomming on knowledge.. that's a Ravenclaw thing perhaps! :p

Then again some loss of canon Gryffindor knowledged timey-wimey stuff.

Oh and Dumbledore would go nuts if we were in Slytherin. And so would Snape. Huh... That's two more good reasons! :D
 


Thing is, we're manipulative and ambitious, but as of now Harry is just a kid whose gotten the power of a thousand suns. He's probably still on tract for Gryffindor - though I wouldn't be opposed to Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff. Also I've read a lot of bad Harry in Slytherin fics and it's given the concept a bad taste in my mouth.
 
Gamer bullshit should make it easier - just invite them to the party, give them a skill book to gain the skill, and then let them grind.
If they can and even then it will depend on when they try to learn it as well. Grinding is boring and you can't convince 11 year olds to do nothing but meditating every day.

I wouldn't tell anyone else untill Harry reaches the level of other adult wizards, just in case.
 
What IC reason do we have to do that? Harry isn't nearly as big on CONSTANT VIGILANCE as Moody.

The only problem is, we WANT to interact with him. Just not right now, in a situation we can't control.
Plus, don't be certain we are going to Gryffindor. Going off what happened the Wand Selection, we get a choice of what house we want. I'm personally in favor of Ravenclaw. Don't know what everyone else wants.
I've been with Ravenclaw since I joined here, 2 nd Hufflepuff, 3rd Slytherin cause fuck canon and prejudice, also sounds like it would make things interesting.

But still Ravenclaw is going to be my 1st choice cause book knowledge and in order to avoid the stigma hate going on Gryffindor and Slytherin.

Huh, this is something I've been wondering @Halpo133 depending what house we join will we get special, stats, traits,title? I believe a title is more likely, but depending on the house we get what bonuses would the title offer us.

Hufflepuff I believe would probably offer us an increase in social cause how they value friendship and loyalty, as well as stamina, Vit stats maybe an increase xp increase since they are known as hardworking.

Slytherin, I'm no sure what they would give us, they are ambitious and the house is considered to bring out very powerful and successful students so maybe an overall exp and a skill ranking bonus in everything we do and or an increase in most of our stats.

Gryffindor, I'm not sure what they would offer us, being courageous and brave sound like they would offer us bonus to our health and physical stats and skills, maybe luck as well.

Ravenclaw sounds like it would boost our Mana, Int and Wis maybe a bonus when it comes to reading books. Maybe since our magic is heavily focused on Int and Ravenclaw is so focused on knowledge it offer us a discount on using spells.
 
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