But that's what your voting for?
...Sigh.
And that's why I shouldn't quickly skim through a vote when I copy it.
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...Sigh.
And that's why I shouldn't quickly skim through a vote when I copy it.
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Actually, there is a biological limit to how many people the average human can register as important. I'm not sure how relevent it is given our Gamer status, but through primate anthropological studies, scientists discovered that certain primates can only have tribes of so large a number before they split along some line or another. They cross-referenced the studied primate species' brains to figure out the part that governed this trait. I forget what it's called, but ours is much bigger compared to our hairy relatives.
The average human can form 150 of these tribal bonds, compared to a chimpanzee's 50. Keep in mind, this is not just friends, but literally everyone that you, yourself, cares about. Relatives, friends, coworkers, bosses, underlings, minions, everyone that you regularly take into account for your daily plans. All of them number no more than 150, statistically speaking.
I know this is very irrelevent, but I almost never get to share this kind of stuff.
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Oh, I think he is still a rather large twit. He's raised by Lucius, of course his sense of morals ain't going to be up-to-date (Heck, most of Wizarding Society probably isn't. They seem rather Culture Locked, most progression coming from the Muggle-born Wizards, who came in with Muggle Values, which the Noble Houses don't get, so it's people with old values raising kids with old values, and given how old Wizards can get...).
Yet, even if he was literally Darth Vader Jr., I'd rather him on our side than against us.
I knew of that, and honestly, I'm not so sure how true that is. I mean, as a hard rule. People might tend to not get any more than that, but if a person tried? I'd think they are physically capable of caring about as many people as they want.
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I'm thinking that the middle is best. He and the candy trolly should show up around the same time, I'm thinking, which means we'll have candy as an icebreaker.
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I'm perfectly fine with befriending Ron and I'd be perfectly fine befriending Draco...
...if befriending Draco wouldn't cost us *at least* Hermione in all likelihood.
That said, I'd really like to avoid giving Draco the cold shoulder or anything that can be interpreted as 'you're my nemesis now.' Even if Draco never chills enough to be a friend, I'd still prefer to be *friendly* to him.
It would save us so much irritation in the long run not to have to deal with that bullshit.
So, if/when Draco pops up, can we not do what Harry did in canon? Maybe instead tell Draco we'd be open to meeting *privately* later on if he doesn't want to join us in the cabin right now? (probably not since there isn't enough seats for Crabbe and Goyle)
...if befriending Draco wouldn't cost us *at least* Hermione in all likelihood.
That said, I'd really like to avoid giving Draco the cold shoulder or anything that can be interpreted as 'you're my nemesis now.' Even if Draco never chills enough to be a friend, I'd still prefer to be *friendly* to him.
It would save us so much irritation in the long run not to have to deal with that bullshit.
So, if/when Draco pops up, can we not do what Harry did in canon? Maybe instead tell Draco we'd be open to meeting *privately* later on if he doesn't want to join us in the cabin right now? (probably not since there isn't enough seats for Crabbe and Goyle)
The wizarding world has a different morality and progresion, they had women liders since 200 years ago
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[X] Near the rear of the train
[X] Allow the boy to sit in the compartment. It's getting rather full though, won't fit but two more person in comfortably at this rate.
[X] Allow the boy to sit in the compartment. It's getting rather full though, won't fit but two more person in comfortably at this rate.
I'm pretty sure we could work around that. People are allowed to have multiple groups of friends, without the people in between being friends. Just need it be clear to both of them, that we don't like it when they are mean to each-other, and if must, ignore each other's existence if they can't get along.
The rest of it though, that's a pretty good idea. If Ron can keep it from all going south right away, we can still do our own "first" impression later, when we aren't so busy.
Sexism is a rather variant issue. There are TONS of ancient societies that were rather "progressive" in regards to that. Vikings for example. If a man attempted to rape a woman, and said woman killed him, she was legally entitled to everything he owned. One chick became king that way, if I recall correctly.
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Torgamous
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Susan Bones is also the child of a politically powerful person in Magical Britain, and we actually like her instead of just thinking she might be tolerable if we can flip her whole worldview. We're also independently politically powerful, for that matter. There is little we couldn't accomplish in the short term by promising Fudge a photoshoot of us kissing babies with him or in the long term by becoming the Wizarding World's Kung Fu Action Jesus.
That aside, flipping Draco is a long-term project that's actually better served by him not being with us on the train. You want to hang around him, you need to give him as little time to be racist against Hermione as possible.
There are other people who can provide political power, yes, but by "unique" I meant something that almost literally anyone else could provide. Ron's a pretty good friend, but if that's the only thing he's got going for him, that is hardly anything.
Anyways, the Malfoy's are more politically powerful than the Bones, and besides, while we might be politically powerful in our own right, having even more is never a bad thing.
As for meeting him, I agree. Just, odds are we will be meeting him on the train. I WANTED to meet on on the station platform, when we were on our lone-some, but I was out-voted.
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It's not so much the caring as it is about recognition. You can care about lots of people, like the poor orphan being cared for by sewer mutants (as a random example). But for as much as you care about him, in your subconscious he's little more than a series of keywords (orphan, sewer mutants, sadness) before your take your mind off him and go about your day, thinking about the people in your tribe, wondering if the jerk Andy stole your parking space again, and hoping your mother doesn't get abducted by Martians.
You could try to get to know the orphan and his hideous mutant caretakers, but if you did that for everyone you met, you would find the details constantly slipping in and out of your mind, like trying to remember what your phone number was five numbers ago. It's a computational issue, we don't have the brainpower to hold so many ideas of people in our heads at once.
Of course, once cybernetics come along, I wouldn't be surprised if a mod for this problem came out, for use by humanitarian workers and the like. Then you could rally your army of cybernetic sewer mutants, and lay seige to Mars to rescue your mother!
I think my example got away from me there. Oh well.
But I don't trust our understanding of the brain enough to believe that they could accurately calculate how many people we can physically care for and get to know. The brain, while a very rough-and-tumble type of computer, is also very adaptable.
Either way, this is VERY off-topic. If you want to keep talking about it, I'm perfectly willing to continue it in PMs.
Current tally.
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
Allow Ronald the privilege of basking in your presence?
[X] Allow the boy to sit in the compartment. It's getting rather full though, won't fit but two more person in comfortably at this rate.
No. of votes: 25
Brandark, Trondason, Goldfish, Grass, will408914, R. E. Lee, Torgamous, EasyCo, NegativeHorizon, NSMS, Larekko12, mrttao, TotallyNotEvil, CatScannerDarkly, Zimary, Kerfirou, Enjou, wingstrike96, Zaratustra, Alanek, RandomLurker, Corvo Montés, the DragonBard, Qazplm, solodark28
[X] Ask him to find somewhere else to sit. That leaves everyone with plenty of space, leaving room for three others. Not that you're expecting anyone else.
No. of votes: 5
AZATHOTHoth, Kaioo, Dr. Bob Doom, Crazy7s1, Reklaw
Where shall you sit?
[X] Near the rear of the train
No. of votes: 16
Trondason, R. E. Lee, AZATHOTHoth, NegativeHorizon, Kaioo, Cjdavis103, Crazy7s1, Reklaw, mrttao, TotallyNotEvil, CatScannerDarkly, Zimary, Kerfirou, Zaratustra, Corvo Montés, solodark28
[X] Near the middle of the train
No. of votes: 9
Grass, will408914, EasyCo, NSMS, Enjou, wingstrike96, Alanek, RandomLurker, Qazplm
[X] Near the front of the train
No. of votes: 4
Goldfish, Dr. Bob Doom, Larekko12, Void Stalker
[X] Can the train truly be said to have a front and rear? Having just walked through a column into a new train platform, you're not ruling anything out.
No. of votes: 1
Torgamous
##### 3.21
Allow Ronald the privilege of basking in your presence?
[X] Allow the boy to sit in the compartment. It's getting rather full though, won't fit but two more person in comfortably at this rate.
No. of votes: 25
Brandark, Trondason, Goldfish, Grass, will408914, R. E. Lee, Torgamous, EasyCo, NegativeHorizon, NSMS, Larekko12, mrttao, TotallyNotEvil, CatScannerDarkly, Zimary, Kerfirou, Enjou, wingstrike96, Zaratustra, Alanek, RandomLurker, Corvo Montés, the DragonBard, Qazplm, solodark28
[X] Ask him to find somewhere else to sit. That leaves everyone with plenty of space, leaving room for three others. Not that you're expecting anyone else.
No. of votes: 5
AZATHOTHoth, Kaioo, Dr. Bob Doom, Crazy7s1, Reklaw
Where shall you sit?
[X] Near the rear of the train
No. of votes: 16
Trondason, R. E. Lee, AZATHOTHoth, NegativeHorizon, Kaioo, Cjdavis103, Crazy7s1, Reklaw, mrttao, TotallyNotEvil, CatScannerDarkly, Zimary, Kerfirou, Zaratustra, Corvo Montés, solodark28
[X] Near the middle of the train
No. of votes: 9
Grass, will408914, EasyCo, NSMS, Enjou, wingstrike96, Alanek, RandomLurker, Qazplm
[X] Near the front of the train
No. of votes: 4
Goldfish, Dr. Bob Doom, Larekko12, Void Stalker
[X] Can the train truly be said to have a front and rear? Having just walked through a column into a new train platform, you're not ruling anything out.
No. of votes: 1
Torgamous
Torgamous
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Having multiple groups of friends is not the same thing as "hey, I'mma go be friends with this guy who's horribly racist against you. We cool?" It's not just about her having to put up with him. If your best friend is black you don't hang with the KKK. You just don't.
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Nah, unfortunately my knowledge of this subject has run dry. I'm well aware of our lack of knowledge regarding the brains biochemical working, even after centuries of study, but I feel we know enough to make rough guesses. And there will always be outliers on these subjects, Mother Theresa's and sociopaths. Also, I just realized I forgot to vote.
[X] Can the train truly be said to have a front and rear? Having just walked through a column into a new train platform, you're not ruling anything out.
[X] Allow the boy to sit in the compartment. It's getting rather full though, won't fit but two more person in comfortably at this rate.
I know one of these options won't win, but that write in was just too funny to pass up.
You do remember that we are an 11 year old boy who has pretty much never had friends before now, right?
There is simply no way it would make sense for us to think that way. Even if we did have prior experience with friends. Also, by your logic we should just toss them all out, because since usefulness and power is obviously the only thing that matters to a child then none of our current "friends" have any value since we're already more powerful than all of them combined.
Does anyone know any anime or manga or novels (light novels or otherwise) that had instant movement techniques that existed during the appropriate timeframe?
Closest I can think of is the Shuukuchi technique from Rurouni Kenshin, but that was less a technique and more just running really dang fast.
Closest I can think of is the Shuukuchi technique from Rurouni Kenshin, but that was less a technique and more just running really dang fast.
Less KKK, and more Westboro Baptist Church (I don't THINK they have done anything violent). He's not a Death Eater YET.
Plus, we could be very open about why we are doing it. Corrupt him to the light side. Make him not a racist dick-head. Work towards the Greater Good.
Of course we are more powerful than all of them combined. We are The Gamer. That does not make them useless however. We can only be in one place at a time (probably, can't be certain what the future holds), and our physical power doesn't translate very well into political power.You do remember that we are an 11 year old boy who has pretty much never had friends before now, right?
There is simply no way it would make sense for us to think that way. Even if we did have prior experience with friends. Also, by your logic we should just toss them all out, because since usefulness and power is obviously the only thing that matters to a child then none of our current "friends" have any value since we're already more powerful than all of them combined.
And talk of their usefull-ness is of course Meta. Harry isn't that manipulative of a bastard as to weigh people's worths based on their use to him. ALL of this is meta reasoning, the same way the argument over telling Dumbledore or not was mostly Meta. I would not go so far as to have Harry act OOC, what I'm hoping to do is arange things so that it would be IC for him to do the things we want.
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You do remember that we are an 11 year old boy who has pretty much never had friends before now, right?
There is simply no way it would make sense for us to think that way. Even if we did have prior experience with friends. Also, by your logic we should just toss them all out, because since usefulness and power is obviously the only thing that matters to a child then none of our current "friends" have any value since we're already more powerful than all of them combined.
Ah, but our current friends are clearly an investment! Once we are close enough to spill our secret, we'll have four more party members, ready for skill grinding! Potential power multipliers are very valuable, and we've sunk a good amount of time into these ones!
I'm trying to be funny here. Is it working?
Torgamous
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Regarding fiction, keep in mind that we can only learn magic stuff or actually workable mundane things that the book might actually teach. Fictional sword techniques aren't things we can get.
Regarding manga and anime, I don't think we're likely to get much - it wasn't really as popular in the west back in 1991 as it is now. We aren't really likely to find much of that kind of thing in Britain at this time. As such, magic stuff should largely focus on literature.
The technique there isn't magic though. It's just a bullshit physical technique, meaning Magic of the Multiverse doesn't apply.
Torgamous
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Depends on if ki stuff translates to burning through MP to augment physical actions.
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[X] Near the rear of the train
[X] Ask him to find somewhere else to sit. That leaves everyone with plenty of space, leaving room for three others. Not that you're expecting anyone else.
Hmm I guess there'd a chance of Malfoy not antagonising us with all the purebloods around (though on the 'wrong' side)
[X] Ask him to find somewhere else to sit. That leaves everyone with plenty of space, leaving room for three others. Not that you're expecting anyone else.
Hmm I guess there'd a chance of Malfoy not antagonising us with all the purebloods around (though on the 'wrong' side)
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