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ooooh...yeah...Faust is definitely important.
I could also see Zahak being useful as well but honestly all of them have nice domains for the force of sanity.
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I could also see Zahak being useful as well but honestly all of them have nice domains for the force of sanity.
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Damn, Khorne must hate that. He'll probably try to attack him now.
Khorne hates everything, technically I think he would have hated winning too.
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Actually some are flat out major, but they're all on the upper end now.
True, but faith is a big deal.
Remember you can't store domain power save in servitors and faith is for more general stuff as domains are so specific.
The krork are willing to let them proslyise in their protectorates they're as safe as they can get so hopefully they'll get faith going.
50-100 years.
He's spent vast amounts of faith, down an exalted and two are injured + he needs to find Rids although he doesn't need to look for the AO.
Rurick too, defence is a really good domain especially for the krork what with the whole...you know constant level 4 or the tau ulramarine alliance...or really anyone.
Yeah the three that survived are pretty dang good.
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your not wrong...Khorne hates everything, technically I think he would have hated winning too.
its not like he would like the idea of running out of things to hate and destroy ( he can of course hate himself...but thats hard to get into a fight without it not being a fight. ) -- not that he won't be able to use his power to create things/demons to destroy....somewhat ironic that.
in fact, now that I think about it. in the case that Khorne completely won/killed all other chaos gods and other species...I could see him try to create a enemy powerful enough for him to have fun fighting, endlessly.
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He would just have his Exalted and their coteries battle one another even more than they already do.
Decent chance he would go Tyranid and try to expand outside the Galaxy as well.
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Illegal to worship xenos or humans no matter what only the Emperor was the exception.
No he broke the chains the Imperial Trust is Imperial that means they are worshippers of the Emperor and the New Imperial Truth. Lin knew what he was doing we only exist because the Emperor protected us before he died. You can call him out for his shit but he still was and is the thing that protected humanity the entire time.
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meh, the issue is that he has a avatar now and there would be no proper fight there since none of his greater demons would be able to fight Khorne himself on a even level...so he'd boost them so they could.
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Defiance and defense synergize super well honestly. He is a fantastic gode to have in defensive wars.
He protected us, true, and that protection too is part of the problem. Looking to the higher power, to the Golden Man for salvation, to the Throne for answers, that is part of what made Tjapa. The Emperor will never be free of that thing's shadow while he demands faith and obedience to his vision of humanity and neither will the Trust while it follows him. That said thanks to Saint Lin there is no way the trust itself would ever abandon that vision. Perhaps some day in the far future some splinter of the Trust will understand, perhaps the Emperor will have grown enough to accept that, but that is far outside the scope of the quest.
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Well, even if the Ritual was still a success, it at least wasn't a full high-tier success. It's gonna be a pain in the ass that Chaos is stronger, as well as dealing with Khorne and Tzeentch's buffs, but even discounting the facts that we got Isha and the other Big 3 didn't get their desired buffs out of this thing, we can still fight against them. They can't just drown is in daemons with a trivial amount of power, they still have to actually work for their wins
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We did much better than Durin expected to.
He expected only one ritual to take a hit, and one to go off unmolested.
Instead all took a hit and one was almost completely destroyed.
I really don't get why the Trust has so much resistance to worshiping other gods. I mean it can't be a humans in general thing because humans are the most numerous chaos worshipers.
There are now a pretty decent variety of gods that are both deserving of worship (Isha far far more so than the Emperor) and actually offer tangible benefits to doing so.
The Imperial Trust's ban on worshiping anything besides the Emperor is a real chain that's been holding us down the entire time, particularly given how incredibly unlikely it was at the start that we would ever survive to see him reborn (now it's merely unlikely rather than incredibly so).
I kind of hope the other human polities are less intransigent about worshiping actually useful gods. As I said at the start, it can't just be that humans aren't willing to worship things that aren't human because they're perfectly willing to worship chaos gods which aren't even remotely human besides Tjapa.
There are now a pretty decent variety of gods that are both deserving of worship (Isha far far more so than the Emperor) and actually offer tangible benefits to doing so.
The Imperial Trust's ban on worshiping anything besides the Emperor is a real chain that's been holding us down the entire time, particularly given how incredibly unlikely it was at the start that we would ever survive to see him reborn (now it's merely unlikely rather than incredibly so).
I kind of hope the other human polities are less intransigent about worshiping actually useful gods. As I said at the start, it can't just be that humans aren't willing to worship things that aren't human because they're perfectly willing to worship chaos gods which aren't even remotely human besides Tjapa.
The problem is that the vast majority of sane sane human policies just like the Trust carry the cultural legacy of the Imperium and it was murderously xenophobic. The place one is most likely to find the worship of non-human gods are under the protection of xeno empires like the Kork and the Tau, which is a reasonable proportion of humans in the galaxy by this point .
Though that does bring the question of how the Trust sees such worship outside its boundaries. @Durin are we as faithful of the New Imperial Truth obliged to wage holy war to prevent humans from worshiping xeno gods, or alternatively obliged not to ally with polities that allow it?
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Unfortunately for a lot of people it is.
Also its not a ban its just...effectively one. There's some wriggle room...
That being said both the Imperium Secundus and the Imperium Quartus might take up worship of the Triumpherate.
Not Callamus Machine god is supreme there.
Well if they take it up it'd be rather awkward to have to stop allying with Quartus and Secundus.
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So I guess he got taken as one of the sacrifices?
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No he like the rest of the concordant suicided into Tjapa's ritual
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The concordat fought a Doomed Last Stand against Tjapa and amazingly managed to breach the ritual, grab the god being sacrificed, merge him with the Doomed One, and usurp the core of the ritual to boost the three survivors with unrestricted domains.
So he died well. They all did. Everyone at that battle managed to do the impossible - they etched The Fall Of Tyrants into the warp.
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Well by accident.
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Yes, but that doesn't make it any less ridiculous. If anything it makes it more so - they did so well the ritual itself acknowledged their act and diverted itself to them for their willing self sacrifice.
And in a way it was all the more inspiring that it was xeno gods that did it, the very sorts of beings the Old Imeprium would have hounded into oblivion. Humans suffered under the Imperium too of course, but they did not suffer the most, they were not marked for extermination. The concordant deserved to be the ones to spit in the face of Tjapa more than the imperial remnants.
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No what made Tjapa was the corruption that was the Old Imperium not the Emperor. It was a daemon that sat close and managed to grow from that because the Emperor was busy keeping the warpstorm under control and providing a means of travel and protection to the rest of the Imperium while keeping Tjapa buried so it couldn't harm humanity until the Emperor finally died. He is not in the shadow of Tjapa he kept it away it is not a part of him at all.
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The story for the remnants is that of fighting to fix your mistakes, no matter how doomed an effort.