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Khorne now has the power to manifest itself into the Materium.
A place in which the BCS can reach.
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- Thread starter Durin
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A place in which the BCS can reach.
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- Back in Cali
It won't kill him. It would destrory the Avatar and weaken him. To kill the Gods they need to be killed in the warp.
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- Earth
I feel kind of regretful we were so busy trying to cover all the main bases some turns ago that we ignored Qhaysh and her Warp-fixing aura, and now that she's dead Lin can't study her. That thing could've been a lead in this situation.
Eldar Pantheon and Primarchs didn't have a giant time limit on them.
Eldar Pantheon and Primarchs didn't have a giant time limit on them.
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That might just be a fact of life we'll have to live with. Even if Chaos Gods are killed and Warp is restored to a Realm of Souls, it is not impossible that everything will be messed up again. Though it doesn't mean we shouldn't try to do that, if that is possible.
Ryza Plasma Flamer innovations.
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Ryza Plasma Flamer innovations.
the forgeworld of Ryza has long been famous for its mastery of plasmatics. a reputation that in the modern day is tied as much to the many innovations and new patterns crafted on the world as their staggering output of high-quality plasma weapons. the revelation of entirely new plasma-based weapon STCs has been seen as a great opportunity by the plasma sages of Ryza. Of particular interest has been the plasma flamer, as not only the weapon but the concept behind it is new.
Starfire cannon.
a scaled up version of the plasma flamer, modeled off the Inferno Cannon. using a complex electromagnetic array, and unique plasma medium it can unleash a blinding stream of plasma that acts almost like a magnetic liquid. the result is a stream that splashes upon contact with the target, further spreading and magnetically clinging to any metallic materials. While the weapon is very short ranged, being only somewhat better than the Inferno Cannon it is modeled after, the sheer damage it inflicts has earned it its own niche. the Starfire cannon has proven immensely effective against the silver swarm, its plasma burning down entire swarms of heavily armored bioforms, or melting charging carnfixes into slag. The sheer amount of plasma enabling the weapon to threaten heavier targets.
Sunstom Cannon
much like the starfie cannon is modeled off the inferno cannon, the Sunstorm cannon is modeled off of the flamestorm cannon. Scaling up the plasma cannon with a focus on raw damage rather than range. the result was unexpected. Initial prototypes proved almost as dangerous to the firer as the unfortunate targets, the massive plume of uncontrolled sun fire often consuming them as well. the solution fundamentally changed the nature of the weapon. by incorporating electromagnetic grapplers into the weapon, they were able to shape the plasma after it exited the barrel. allowing the conflagration of solar furry to be controlled with a surprising degree of finesse. while this requires an extremely skilled operator, the result was staggering. even the crude uses of an inexperienced operator vastly increased the lethality of the weapon, the plume of plasma collapsing upon the enamy in far greater concentration than typical, with veteran users able to achieve spectacular feats of finesse and lethality. while the Sunstorm cannon barely outranges a typical heavy flamer, it is absolutely lethal to almost anything within that range. With even super heavy units needing to be wary of so potent a weapon. However, the practicality of so expensive a weapon with so short a range is an open question, only time will tell if its staggering lethality will justify its price and constraints.
@Durin Ryza's been playing with the plasma flamer unsupervised.
the forgeworld of Ryza has long been famous for its mastery of plasmatics. a reputation that in the modern day is tied as much to the many innovations and new patterns crafted on the world as their staggering output of high-quality plasma weapons. the revelation of entirely new plasma-based weapon STCs has been seen as a great opportunity by the plasma sages of Ryza. Of particular interest has been the plasma flamer, as not only the weapon but the concept behind it is new.
Starfire cannon.
a scaled up version of the plasma flamer, modeled off the Inferno Cannon. using a complex electromagnetic array, and unique plasma medium it can unleash a blinding stream of plasma that acts almost like a magnetic liquid. the result is a stream that splashes upon contact with the target, further spreading and magnetically clinging to any metallic materials. While the weapon is very short ranged, being only somewhat better than the Inferno Cannon it is modeled after, the sheer damage it inflicts has earned it its own niche. the Starfire cannon has proven immensely effective against the silver swarm, its plasma burning down entire swarms of heavily armored bioforms, or melting charging carnfixes into slag. The sheer amount of plasma enabling the weapon to threaten heavier targets.
Sunstom Cannon
much like the starfie cannon is modeled off the inferno cannon, the Sunstorm cannon is modeled off of the flamestorm cannon. Scaling up the plasma cannon with a focus on raw damage rather than range. the result was unexpected. Initial prototypes proved almost as dangerous to the firer as the unfortunate targets, the massive plume of uncontrolled sun fire often consuming them as well. the solution fundamentally changed the nature of the weapon. by incorporating electromagnetic grapplers into the weapon, they were able to shape the plasma after it exited the barrel. allowing the conflagration of solar furry to be controlled with a surprising degree of finesse. while this requires an extremely skilled operator, the result was staggering. even the crude uses of an inexperienced operator vastly increased the lethality of the weapon, the plume of plasma collapsing upon the enamy in far greater concentration than typical, with veteran users able to achieve spectacular feats of finesse and lethality. while the Sunstorm cannon barely outranges a typical heavy flamer, it is absolutely lethal to almost anything within that range. With even super heavy units needing to be wary of so potent a weapon. However, the practicality of so expensive a weapon with so short a range is an open question, only time will tell if its staggering lethality will justify its price and constraints.
@Durin Ryza's been playing with the plasma flamer unsupervised.
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- United states
Do we have an idea to how much power Khorne would lose if we destroyed his avatar in the material realm? I mean the loss of the avatar is obvious but am wondering if he would lose a bit more power due to it's loss being connected to his own power.
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that would never work the chaos god will always work towards increasing there food that means making the emotions they feed on as powerful intense and extreme as they can , also good and evil , positive and negative are all very subjective what you define as evil some one else could consider to be good and when you take into consideration how in the warp every ones point of view can be true at the same time no matter how contradicting well its a mess waiting to happen
Doomed Wombat
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I don't think we're going to be able to overwhelm the Primordial Sea, the thing that birthed existence itself to our knowledge with positivity, nor do I think that we can yank away the Chaos God's domains, not without creating a new primal god to take them and unfortunately primal gods of a certain level seem to end up sea'd, so even if we create a positive primal god I get the feeling it'd just end up sea'd and evil.
Look we have no solution for chaos right now. There is probably is one and the Unborn may well be part of it. All I know is that if we get the chance we must obliterate it, otherwise this is going to all repeat itself even if it takes another 60 million years, especially since Asyruan's commandment did stop them from acting overtly in the materium, but as daemons like Bel'akor demonstrate it didn't stop them completely.
Presumably either they know sublty, or because they can't be killed they said stuff the consequences...probably both.
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The problem with obliterating chaos completely is that we may very well lobotomize all the creatures conectef to the Warp, the Warp tumors that are the Chaos Gods are too widespread and this sudden dissappearance will most likely cause a a collapse on the Warp
Doomed Wombat
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I'm aware and I don't want to obliterate the warp, I want to obliterate the sea which is the source of the warp's corruption.
If we do that then the plan of turning the chaos gods into neutral entities, should be doable, instead of the explicitly evil existences they are now.
I want to kill chaos, that doesn't necessite killing the gods for better or wose.
notanautomaton
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It might be possible for the Phoenix Avatars to use the Black Crystal Sword to permakill Khorne through his new Avatar and take a massive chunk of his Domains that way. But that wouldn't work for the rest of the Chaos Gods or the Sea as a whole.
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- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
Nope, won't work, Phoenix Avatars are gods now, and BCS can't be used by gods.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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To add to @DeusFerreus killing the Avatar likely would do considerably damage to Khorne, but its not likely to do much beyond change the power rankings, not take away domains.
Best we could hope for really would be the loss of the war domain Khrone managed to nab with the avatar, but that would just put Khorne back to where it was, which would be a blow, but hardily a knock out.
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He didn't grabbed it. He would have obtained it if the Phoenix Lords had failed, but that didn't happened.
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Doomed Wombat
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No it managed to gain a stronger grasp on the domain of war as a whole (much like the abomination Khorne does not have a full lock on their strongest domain), what it did not manage to get was becoming the Eldar god of war which was what the Phoenix Lords stopped, mostly by becoming new Eldar Gods of war.
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... So what you are saying is that he has a slighty stronger claim on the domain of war now. From that to grabbing it whole there is an enormous difference.
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Doomed Wombat
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No what I'm saying is that it almost became the eldar god of war.
Racial gods get a much higher split of domain power than even a primal god under normal circumstances and Eldar produce a shit ton of power, by eating and absorbing Khaine, Khorne intended to become the racial eldar god of war, that did not happen, the Phoenix Avatars stole that mantle collectively and prevented Khorne from obtaining it, Ahrah shit that he is even stopped Khorne from nabbing the domain of murder.
There is no practical way for Khorne or anything else to obtain sole ownership of the war domain, its just too big although the domain of war is one of the strongest in the galaxy given that the galaxy is practically a 24/7 war buffet at the moment
However, it has a slightly strengthened that claim, which is a massive power boost.
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- Back in Cali
The Sea is a natural part of the world. It cannot be destroryed. And the corruption of the warp is not the Sea it was the War in Heaven that destroryed it and turned it into the hellscape it now is.
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- madison
in ebmers at least, it was mixing the sea with the warp that made chaos.
Doomed Wombat
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Reality emerged from it, but I get the feeling it doesn't need it to exist, we'd all be long dead if that were the case. As for the corruption of the warp I get the feeling that's the sea.
After all what possible reason is there for a war even one as large as the war in heaven to create the self perpetuating warp, its meant to be the sea of all emotions, instead of turning into the warp in the aftermath of the galatic extinction that was the war in heaven it should have been dead as a doornail, since everyone was dead Jim.
Instead warp.
Either the war broke whatever seperated warp and sea letting it seap in, or some asshole made a super weapon that did it for them, either way by what we know of how the warp works, it should not naturally be in this state same as why the Chaos gods should not be...well the chaos gods.
Whether we have to rebuild the wall, or blow it the fuck up the sea is going bye bye.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Either tha tor the Premature, both work for this one.
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- Earth
Wait, what's that?
Doomed Wombat
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Something Durin mentioned along time ago.
All we know are as followed.
1. It is considered a great one of some kind.
2. It is in the top 3 great ones
3. There are creatures called the Unborn, so I at least have infered a connection between the two.