The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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By the way, I was calculating, and if Ridcully doesn't fail at all, he will finish anti-Slaanesh frequencies on Y2 next turn and start the counter-powers on Y3, leaving him ready to heal Guilliman on Y4 of T135. So Lin can do 4 research topics in this time (the last one will only start on Y1 of T135, but he has that final trait that will take a year off its time by then).

So if we do Zahhak and the Sanguinor, that leaves us with two more things.
 
That's two turns from now. Lin is only mostly safe from just croaking randomly from old age for the next turn. So why have we been waiting this long to actually heal Roboute?
I'm trying to catch back up with this quest.
Lin needs to go super sayain to get to the point when he can break the curse, and the various final components need to be readied (cure potion, rune of purification and Vulkan's artifact.)
 
That's two turns from now. Lin is only mostly safe from just croaking randomly from old age for the next turn. So why have we been waiting this long to actually heal Roboute?
I'm trying to catch back up with this quest.
As mentioned we are trying to maximize our chances as much as possible since if we just did it off the bat we'd have pretty low chances to begin with. With preparation we'd at least have pretty decent to good odds.
 
Saying chaos must be wiped out is all well and good, but look at how it always ends. Meanwhile, the Sane factions of the galaxy can deal with the corruption reasonably well, and grow stronger despite its influences. Perhaps the way to defeat chaos is just to eclipse it, rather than actively destroying it entirely.

*This applies to chaos as a greater entity, not to specific chaos aligned material powers.
 
Saying chaos must be wiped out is all well and good, but look at how it always ends. Meanwhile, the Sane factions of the galaxy can deal with the corruption reasonably well, and grow stronger despite its influences. Perhaps the way to defeat chaos is just to eclipse it, rather than actively destroying it entirely.

*This applies to chaos as a greater entity, not to specific chaos aligned material powers.
It ends with a galaxy not at risk of being obliterated by a reality destroying nightmare?

At the end of the day we can deal with the Dragon, Orks and even Krork vs Necrons round 2, but chaos not so much cause it will always be back.

We may grow strong, but eventually it will be back and will not always be strong, or so concerned about it if we do eclipse it. Just look at the Eldar they eclipsed chaos then it destroyed them eventually.
 
It ends with a galaxy not at risk of being obliterated by a reality destroying nightmare?

At the end of the day we can deal with the Dragon, Orks and even Krork vs Necrons round 2, but chaos not so much cause it will always be back.

We may grow strong, but eventually it will be back and will not always be strong, or so concerned about it if we do eclipse it. Just look at the Eldar they eclipsed chaos then it destroyed them eventually.
I have always figured the solution to chaos gods was stealing their domains and then killing them when they are consequently turned into Minor Gods.
 
So the reason why we're risking him croaking before getting to Roboute is because we're waiting for the other preparations to come together? Because we failed to plan it so everything would all come together right next turn?
No we're risking him croaking because Durin is rolling every year once he gets the final trait and Vulkan can't finish his artifact until Lin is in his final state. Otherwise we're good to go sans Lin actually being able to break the curse.
 
I have always figured the solution to chaos gods was stealing their domains and then killing them when they are consequently turned into Minor Gods.

I always thought it was to use terraforming, Luxury STCs, and Food/population growth-related STCs to raise the standard of living to the point where positive emotions drastically outweigh negative ones per capita, and increase the galaxy's population from something on the order of 10 quadrillion to a nonillion. Overrun Chaos with more positivity than they can handle.
 
I always thought it was to use terraforming, Luxury STCs, and Food/population growth-related STCs to raise the standard of living to the point where positive emotions drastically outweigh negative ones per capita, and increase the galaxy's population from something on the order of 10 quadrillion to a nonillion. Overrun Chaos with more positivity than they can handle.

That would make Slaanesh dominant. He is the Chaos god of good feelings.
 
If the stagnant Imperium could not kill Tzeentch, then I don't think anything will do it. Of course Tzeentch hasn't even been born yet.
 
I always thought it was to use terraforming, Luxury STCs, and Food/population growth-related STCs to raise the standard of living to the point where positive emotions drastically outweigh negative ones per capita, and increase the galaxy's population from something on the order of 10 quadrillion to a nonillion. Overrun Chaos with more positivity than they can handle.
Positive emotions power the Chaos Gods. They feed from everything that happens. Standard of living will do jack shit and increasing the population will only increase their power.
 
I always thought it was to use terraforming, Luxury STCs, and Food/population growth-related STCs to raise the standard of living to the point where positive emotions drastically outweigh negative ones per capita, and increase the galaxy's population from something on the order of 10 quadrillion to a nonillion. Overrun Chaos with more positivity than they can handle.

They do not care about positive or negative emotions all energy generated from emotions in real space transfers to the warp but there is some energy loss from the transfer depending on how strong the barrier between real space and the warp is ,the chaos god work around that by increasing the power of the emotions that pass through by making them more intense , extreme , excessive and you know cray cray

here is some one explaining it better than I ever could

 
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There's two ways I see to defeat Chaos.
1. Kill everyone with souls, cover the galaxy in necron anti-warp pylons, and then let everything rest for a few million years. That should starve out the chaos gods. Plus any new species you install in the area of anti-warp pylons aren't going to be warp connected anyway so won't be bothered by chaos gods even if they survive.
2. Use a massive population to empower a new sane god to be as strong as Asuryon at his height. Asuryon was able to bar the Chaos Gods from acting on the materium, so we know this can work as long as people keep worshipping the god doing it.
 
Positive emotions power the Chaos Gods. They feed from everything that happens. Standard of living will do jack shit and increasing the population will only increase their power.
They do not care about positive or negative emotions all energy generated from emotions in real space transfers to the warp but there is some energy loss from the transfer depending on how strong the barrier between real space and the warp is ,the chaos god work around that by increasing the power of the emotions that pass through by making them more intense , extreme , excessive and you know cray cray

The idea is that Chaos Gods feeds on EVERYTHING of their domains, both good and evil, but since WH40K galaxy is sooo fucking awful there is a complete imbalance towards the Evil aspects of their domains.

The idea is basically that if the Galaxy drastically changes for the best, the emotions of the mortals would also do, that way the Chaos gods would still exist, but they would become either a neutral or positive force.
 
Positive emotions power the Chaos Gods. They feed from everything that happens. Standard of living will do jack shit and increasing the population will only increase their power.

Well, logically, there must be some kind of upper limit on the Sea's evil-ness and by extension Chaos' evil-ness. Therefore, enough positivity should be able to overwhelm them.

The idea is that Chaos Gods feeds on EVERYTHING of their domains, both good and evil, but since WH40K galaxy is sooo fucking awful there is a complete imbalance towards the Evil aspects of their domains.

The idea is basically that if the Galaxy drastically changes for the best, the emotions of the mortals would also do, that way the Chaos gods would still exist, but they would become either a neutral or positive force.

What he said.
 
The idea is that Chaos Gods feeds on EVERYTHING of their domains, both good and evil, but since WH40K galaxy is sooo fucking awful there is a complete imbalance towards the Evil aspects of their domains.

The idea is basically that if the Galaxy drastically changes for the best, the emotions of the mortals would also do, that way the Chaos gods would still exist, but they would become either a neutral or positive force.

Doesn't work like that, the Chaos Gods always derive more power from more extreme versions of their primary emotions so they will always actively seek those extremes
 
The idea is that Chaos Gods feeds on EVERYTHING of their domains, both good and evil, but since WH40K galaxy is sooo fucking awful there is a complete imbalance towards the Evil aspects of their domains.

The idea is basically that if the Galaxy drastically changes for the best, the emotions of the mortals would also do, that way the Chaos gods would still exist, but they would become either a neutral or positive force.
The Chaos Gods are insane and the warp is a demented twisted version of the Realm of Souls because of the War in Heaven. Unless you have Old Ones level powers there is no fixing it. And when the Eldar Gods could bar the Chaos Gods from doing anything the Chaos Gods were a lot weaker. They cannot be barred from the materium now.
 
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