The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
I don´t think so, since we have no omakes nor we have taken any diplomatic actions.
Well there's one.

I don't think its included.

Doesn't Saint Lin have a trait that makes him immune to all corruption due to him entering the Abomination's domain?
That's chaos corruption.

This is the primordial sea, the thing that birthed chaos and drove the chaos gods insane.

I think it doesn't care about that.
 
Doesn't Saint Lin have a trait that makes him immune to all corruption due to him entering the Abomination's domain?
Well, I guess that's standard Chaotic corruption and this is the source of it. It may be like the difference between drinking liquid poison and ingesting the powder that makes said liquid poison when added in minuscule amounts to water.
 
@Durin
1. Does the current 58% include the +5 omake bonus?
2. How does Rotbart reallocating a personal action for extra actions in another category work? Can we sacrifice a slot in the corresponding category any time we want to shift the project back to the regular manager to free up a personal action slot?
1. no
2. you can, at the cost of needing to double up for a year
 
Doesn't Saint Lin have a trait that makes him immune to all corruption due to him entering the Abomination's domain?

This isn't your normal every-day divine corruption we are talking about here dude. This is the next tier, the pinnacle, the very concept of corruption that we are asking our dude to stick his mind and soul into to find out more about it.

Normal resistance ain't gonna cut it.
 
@Durin
1 since the well of eternity is a possibility for Saint Lin does it have the standard for the nature of action DC?
2 can we request information from the Eldar or PM to help?
3 will it only risk Saint Lin if he fails?
 
@Nurgle

It's just as dangerous as the sea and has potentially disastrous consequences for failing, including Lin getting corrupted and a power boost.
 
@Durin, if we get boosts via diplomacy and write omakes for the Primordial Sea in this thread, and some other action gives him a trait that lets him hit Transcendent and survive to the next thread, (assuming we hold off on doing it) will those bonuses still be there in the next thread?
 
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A scenario to consider:

We don't research the sea. An abomination crusade turns up while much of our army is off defending the colonies from Nids. We win but take heavy losses. We also take heavy losses fighting the Nids. The following turn Lin dies, an alpha+ goes chaos and calls down a Demonic Incursion. With our army so depleted we are unable to hold and lose half our cities along with most of our characters. Having taken monumental damage and without Lin or Jane our cities are overrun by cultists. Avernus cleanses the infection.
Bad End.


Another scenario:

We decide against divining for 'the Trust's next enemy' and didn't see the Nids coming. Our first indication of danger is the Diplomacy Results mentioning that the Shadow In The Warp is halfway through consuming Amir-Ka. We have a single turn to prepare for a Hive fleet that has doubled in size. Without divined information we reckon we can fight the first wave and see what happens. Sub-Sector Cobalt dies and takes much of the Trust's military with it. We cash in our Honour bound Favour and the Eldar save the remainder of the Trust. We learn that a Tier 3 Waaagh was following in the Hive fleet's wake and the Eldar are now stretched too thin dealing with snowballing Tyranids to help. The Trust is destroyed, leaving only a few heavily fortified worlds. Then an Abomination crusade turns up.
Bad End.


This is a quest. We can lose, by choice or by chance. There is no truly safe path.

I have read Durin's warning. It is not a case of one crit fail causing an instant Bad End. Nor is it a case of any failure causing catastrophe.
I believe it worth the risk.

It might be as dangerous to Lin, but it is NOT a quest ending threat even if we fail terribly.
Have you seen Lin's traits? If he goes chaotic and gets a power boost the best we can hope for is Avernus only obliterating one city. If we are unlucky all humans on the planet go chaotic with him and Bad End.
 
We don't research the sea. An abomination crusade turns up while much of our army is off defending the colonies from Nids. We win but take heavy losses. We also take heavy losses fighting the Nids. The following turn Lin dies, an alpha+ goes chaos and calls down a Demonic Incursion. With our army so depleted we are unable to hold and lose half our cities along with most of our characters. Having taken monumental damage and without Lin or Jane our cities are overrun by cultists. Avernus cleanses the infection.
Oh come on, the odds of this happening can be mathematically be shown to be less than 1%.
 
A scenario to consider:

We don't research the sea. An abomination crusade turns up while much of our army is off defending the colonies from Nids. We win but take heavy losses. We also take heavy losses fighting the Nids. The following turn Lin dies, an alpha+ goes chaos and calls down a Demonic Incursion. With our army so depleted we are unable to hold and lose half our cities along with most of our characters. Having taken monumental damage and without Lin or Jane our cities are overrun by cultists. Avernus cleanses the infection.
Bad End.


Another scenario:

We decide against divining for 'the Trust's next enemy' and didn't see the Nids coming. Our first indication of danger is the Diplomacy Results mentioning that the Shadow In The Warp is halfway through consuming Amir-Ka. We have a single turn to prepare for a Hive fleet that has doubled in size. Without divined information we reckon we can fight the first wave and see what happens. Sub-Sector Cobalt dies and takes much of the Trust's military with it. We cash in our Honour bound Favour and the Eldar save the remainder of the Trust. We learn that a Tier 3 Waaagh was following in the Hive fleet's wake and the Eldar are now stretched too thin dealing with snowballing Tyranids to help. The Trust is destroyed, leaving only a few heavily fortified worlds. Then an Abomination crusade turns up.
Bad End.


This is a quest. We can lose, by choice or by chance. There is no truly safe path.

I have read Durin's warning. It is not a case of one crit fail causing an instant Bad End. Nor is it a case of any failure causing catastrophe.
I believe it worth the risk.

Have you seen Lin's traits? If he goes chaotic and gets a power boost the best we can hope for is Avernus only obliterating one city. If we are unlucky all humans on the planet go chaotic with him and Bad End.
Why would we not have Lin with no weapons, with an Eldar Archon there to kill him if it becomes necessary. Or hell, Jacob Oakheart for the double paragon combat? Its less risky than the Sea, but still enough to get him pushed to Transcendence. If the thread isn't willing to do the Sea, the Well seems like a good secondary option. I'd still prefer to do the Sea, but not everyone agrees with that.
 
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