but is we take it out wont it effect the whole Hive Fleet as the Dreadnought should be the main brain of Hive Fleet Grábakr
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Maybe...
It may cause a reduction in the synapse network, but with how many Hiveships it has at this stage it will likely be minor, since the Tyranids don't typically have a main brain.
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well, the biggest benifit to knockign the dreadnought out is it means their biggest is BB....someone already pointed out that when you lack Dreadnough class, anti-dreadnought turns into OP anti-BB as they stop spreading their damage due to how durin has his damage model work.
So basically, taking out the dreadnought means we can more effectively fight their BBs (which number in the thousands and outnumber littearly EVERYONE's BB's combined and is the majority of their threat)....but since its just one Dreadnought, it would indeed only benifit for fighting that one fleet anyway.....so REALLY all it does is gives us Dreadnought supremacy in the case they combine fleets which COULD happen if they think thats the way to fight us or others (who might decide to fight the nid's piece-meal like us)
but yeah, I think wombats likely right. inless the nid's newest evolution involved increased dependency on their network and large creatures, killing the dreadnought won't count for much more then just simply having killed a large creature.
it does probably represent the flag-ship for the largest of the mini-fleets tho and thus likely contains a decent chunk of that fleets queen(s)
So basically, taking out the dreadnought means we can more effectively fight their BBs (which number in the thousands and outnumber littearly EVERYONE's BB's combined and is the majority of their threat)....but since its just one Dreadnought, it would indeed only benifit for fighting that one fleet anyway.....so REALLY all it does is gives us Dreadnought supremacy in the case they combine fleets which COULD happen if they think thats the way to fight us or others (who might decide to fight the nid's piece-meal like us)
but yeah, I think wombats likely right. inless the nid's newest evolution involved increased dependency on their network and large creatures, killing the dreadnought won't count for much more then just simply having killed a large creature.
it does probably represent the flag-ship for the largest of the mini-fleets tho and thus likely contains a decent chunk of that fleets queen(s)
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It was asked if they could replace the Dreadnought should we take it out without too much trouble, the answer was yes.
Basically, picking a fight with the Dreadnought ends up removing X Tyranid biomass at a relatively high cost, as properly supported Dreadnoughts are hard to take out. Then they make another one in their next round of consumption to match their fleet weight ratios.
Basically, picking a fight with the Dreadnought ends up removing X Tyranid biomass at a relatively high cost, as properly supported Dreadnoughts are hard to take out. Then they make another one in their next round of consumption to match their fleet weight ratios.
Two points:
1) The Abomination is not sending anything at us. Its mortal followers are, potentially, sending a Crusade at us. This means there will be no Demonic Incursion, just as there wasn't last time its followers tried for Lin.
2) If we do get a Demonic Incursion aimed at us (the previous two weren't) then our defences are largely irrelevant. Incursions come with Honoured and Exalted demons, which we have no hope of stopping. It will come down to how much collateral damage we take from the Guardians, Weapons and Great Ones beating the demons back.
To be clear I do fear Chaos, when fighting them anywhere but Avernus. A Crusade aimed at any other planet in the Trust is a matter of grave concern. One aimed at Avernus is a nuisance.
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Note, one of the big reasons the exalted last crusade was such a big problem was that it was capable of creating its own incursion.
As well as being summoned right on top of us.
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1. yes they will
2. no need
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The thing is that I expect it to be THE navy synapse so I expect that battle would turn into an easy win afterwards.
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The battles are spread out both in time and systems. Odds are good that the Dreadnought is going to turn up in a system we aren't contesting (one of the Ork or Chaos minor powers we plan to burn out and abandon ahead of time). My guess is that the battles are mostly going to be under what is effectively local command for the Nids anyway as well—especially given how good the Necrons should be at decapitating their fleets, a tactic they should have evolved a reasonable counter for.
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Ahra = Arhra?
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ah, yes. spelling, the enemy of all forum goers.
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Ughhhh at least expedite it then.
Anyway if you were really concerned about a daemonic incursion you would upgrade all the large cities instead of creating new points to be attacked at. grrr. Or implementing the Carniflowers.
I am going with illusion trees because of how it makes it utility in hiding information on our defenses and give us the ability to ambush inside and outside the city.
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Depending on if the black irons are back too Helguard level strength with the newest plus 30 they will breach the 650 needed for champion levels universally.
But not against regular chaos humans, regular chaos space marines, orks and so on.
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Alright, so here's my thoughts:
1. I'm doubtful about the ultimate utility of checking out the Eldar Pantheon. It seems like it would be neat worldbuilding, but the odds that we'd learn something that the Clown doesn't know is probably fairly poor to put it mildly. I'd swap it for The Sanginour personally, as that's knowledge we can use positively. Also, we might be able to recruit him for the Isha rescue mission.
2. Swap the Y2 Greater Divination for a Focused Divination (Eldar Choice). It'll functionally add an extra +20 on the action most likely to need it.
3. I'd at least consider implementing Transonic weaponry. We know that it'll result in a substantial improvement in our PDF's melee ability, which will likely prove important vs the Nids.
Greater Divination is the action that can see at great distances, so it's the one we need for this.
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Can we even do Sanguinor?
Primarchs seems more useful regardless.
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I asked a long time ago, the answer was yes. As to the Primarchs, I kinda see the same problem. Corax and co have had 10k+ years to master their powers, I doubt we can help them much.
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I'm not interested in helping them master their powers I want insights into the spiritual side of their existence.
Their physical bodies are impressive, but its the spiritual side of things that makes them incredibly powerful and I'm hoping Lin's research will give us insight into that.