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Would Ophelia +30 to psychic rolls apply to ward vault? If so we may want to put her on that, combined with the learning and control increase she got.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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No she's only a skilled artisan which doesn't fall into the main disciplines.
Tamia is going to do the vault she will have a 76 with a double down.
Given the distance involved those scouts must take years just to reach the area they intend to search.
There is a perverse irony in the fact that the 'instant' super soldiers take two decades to produce. Pretty sure Space Marines are actually faster to get from selection to combat ready.
I'm for the Landhold option. The hive note the potential of friction between knights and non-knights while Landhold doesn't. Plus I would sooner have quality and leave quantity to Asgard.
Oh yes, the final annoyance of choosing battleships over Grand Cruisers.
Excellent. Expensive, but excellent.
Yeah… nope.
Well worth doing.
On the one hand we need this done. On the other… Lin arguably has other tasks we need done more.
… the High Council might complain, but I suspect the 'near panic' reactions means if we present this as a fait accompli no one will care much.
We need this done before Lin dies.
Yay.
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The action is primarily figuring out training for them producing them as we already know doesn't take long, took Maximal about 5 years to make a dozen of them while not understanding the process.
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Ok, there are a bunch of things I really think we should do this turn, in no particular order.
1. Psychic Cannon. The Psychic Cannon disrupts the tyranids' hive mind, which makes it an immensely important weapon.
2. Ordinatus. Ordinatus was one of the techs we got at the Grand Conclave, and would give us a fuckload of groundside firepower.
3. Invisible Dragons. In terms of killing/near killing heroes, only psyrodactyls have come close.
4. Tyranid samples from the eldar, so that we can do Biologis on it and get intel.
5. 1 year Research action on shrine fairies. Their rituals would greatly increase our psyker's power on a macro scale, so we should get started on developing a way to communicate with them.
6. Point defence ship. A ship loaded up on point defence, to protect itself and larger ships from strike craft, torpedoes, etc. Orks and tyranids use strike craft a lot, so it'll be quite valuable.
7. Special Issue Impalers+Fundamentals (Melta). Durin said Melta is a Basic technology, so it'll take 7 years total. Getting melta shells would be very damn good at improving our anti-elite capability. While the tyranids are big on hordes, they also have elites, which need to be taken down.
1. Psychic Cannon. The Psychic Cannon disrupts the tyranids' hive mind, which makes it an immensely important weapon.
2. Ordinatus. Ordinatus was one of the techs we got at the Grand Conclave, and would give us a fuckload of groundside firepower.
3. Invisible Dragons. In terms of killing/near killing heroes, only psyrodactyls have come close.
4. Tyranid samples from the eldar, so that we can do Biologis on it and get intel.
5. 1 year Research action on shrine fairies. Their rituals would greatly increase our psyker's power on a macro scale, so we should get started on developing a way to communicate with them.
6. Point defence ship. A ship loaded up on point defence, to protect itself and larger ships from strike craft, torpedoes, etc. Orks and tyranids use strike craft a lot, so it'll be quite valuable.
7. Special Issue Impalers+Fundamentals (Melta). Durin said Melta is a Basic technology, so it'll take 7 years total. Getting melta shells would be very damn good at improving our anti-elite capability. While the tyranids are big on hordes, they also have elites, which need to be taken down.
In the current game system you're mostly better off just taking a ton of escort cruiser-carriers for AA.
I was really disappointed we didn't get any improvements to AA from the conclave. I had hoped to get the laser point defense system that's xenotech in the rogue trader game system.
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...Laser PD? That seems like a pretty basic thing the Imperium would've had. Just assume we already have it and that it's just a normal kind of PD.
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Sounds like something we could do with Las fundamentals, tbh
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Micro Laser Defence Grid A vastly larger version of the digital energy weapons used by nobles and worthies of the Imperium, the grid is an interlinked network of hundreds of miniature laser turrets scattered across a vessel's hull. The lasers, while not powerful individually, act in concert to shoot down incoming ordinance and small craft. Wall of Light: Increase the ship's turret rating by 2. External: This Component does not require hull space. Although it is external, it can only be destroyed or damaged by a Critical Hit.
He speaks of this.
Standard imperial defense turrets are projectile weapons. The basic upgrade is flak turrets which increase turret rating by 1 but reduce sensors. The Xenotech laser grid is +2 turret rating with no penalty.
I'm actually pretty dubious it's actually meant to be a bunch of digi lasers. Basic ones don't have nearly the range needed and are already pricey, to get some sort of suped up larger version by the hundred would be a bit much for even a rogue trader.
Really though the lasers aren't important. We can already build lasers on the scale of starship turrets with no problem. The targeting system which coordinates hundreds of turrets is what's important.
Hmm, those are some nice trait gains.
General Commentary:
We are about to face an enemy with unending swarms of ground troops. Having our own swarm of non-edible troops to stand in their way and be meat-shields for our more valuable forces seems like something to invest in.
2) Ophelia got a decent boost to her skill and combat power. Tyranids dampen pysker abilities, but even they can't snuff the power of an Alpha to the point she is useless. Ophelia is going to be a star in this fight.
3) Apparently standing up 10,000 Thunder Warriors is cheaper than I thought. And while they are "temporary", this formation will still last 200 years (or 40 turns). They will be the test-bed for future, better prepared Warriors.
The survivors are very likely to be the trainers and leaders for the next generation, whenever that will be. Not a bad deal considering how dangerous these guys get as they age.
They may actually have a decent chance of producing hero units given their narrative. Probably not as likely as Space Marines, but better than most of our other forces at least.
4) Grandkid on the way. Either Syr got past feeling that Sigmund was just a friend or her vows and libido conspired to do what her heart has not yet committed to. As I once heard someone joke about, all natural pregnancies are unplanned.
5) Large Waagh building. Eh, frying pan --> Fire and all that jazz. Its not enough to make me panic. If they don't fight the Hive Fleet, then they are likely going to demolish another one of the chaos polities that the Devourer doesn't hit.
General Commentary:
We are about to face an enemy with unending swarms of ground troops. Having our own swarm of non-edible troops to stand in their way and be meat-shields for our more valuable forces seems like something to invest in.
2) Ophelia got a decent boost to her skill and combat power. Tyranids dampen pysker abilities, but even they can't snuff the power of an Alpha to the point she is useless. Ophelia is going to be a star in this fight.
3) Apparently standing up 10,000 Thunder Warriors is cheaper than I thought. And while they are "temporary", this formation will still last 200 years (or 40 turns). They will be the test-bed for future, better prepared Warriors.
The survivors are very likely to be the trainers and leaders for the next generation, whenever that will be. Not a bad deal considering how dangerous these guys get as they age.
They may actually have a decent chance of producing hero units given their narrative. Probably not as likely as Space Marines, but better than most of our other forces at least.
4) Grandkid on the way. Either Syr got past feeling that Sigmund was just a friend or her vows and libido conspired to do what her heart has not yet committed to. As I once heard someone joke about, all natural pregnancies are unplanned.
5) Large Waagh building. Eh, frying pan --> Fire and all that jazz. Its not enough to make me panic. If they don't fight the Hive Fleet, then they are likely going to demolish another one of the chaos polities that the Devourer doesn't hit.
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write in option would work
We might want to hold off until we get the rough force composition of the incoming Nids; we have no idea how the War in the Void changed them.
I'd also be cautious about assuming these tyranids will be mostly lightly armored. They're going to be completely different after adapting for centuries fighting necrons.
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Both Abomination and orks use hordes of mooks. Honestly, all of our enemies are pretty horde-heavy, just some have more horde than others.
Maybe but I agree with other we should divine and find out force composition before making too many changes.
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Robots would probably be the worst thing to send at the tyranids. They are very highly specialised at killing them.
We should try fighting ourselves first. Nids have slow FTL and generally just go from one system to the next. We can afford to fight them on a colony or two before deciding if we need to use a favour.
The Alpha gits can wait. They are a long term problem and we have too many short term problems to care about them. Abomination crusade was a joke.
2 We aren't short of ground firepower and Ordinatus are likely to be a 'take an action to build one' type unit, at least at first. It would be nice to get but we have other priorities.
7 Except we just took away Impalers from our non-chaff forces. Anything fighting elites should already have better.
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1 What are our proposed Thunder Warriors armed/armoured with?
40 years