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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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random_npc said:
he might have been keeping them going with biomancy. big E was an apex psycher right?
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Yes, but he was oh so busy making the primarchs, I doubt he had time for the thunder warriors he was going to execute at the end of it all.

TBF this isn't even me being salty in this instance, powerful or not doing that level of biomancy is extremely complex and control based, emps may have had time to keep all of his 20,000 thunder warriors alive, but I doubt he would have seeing as he spent most of the pacification not helping the pacification.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
I believe he's talking about the fact that the original Thunder Warriors fought from the starting of the pacification of terra to its end around 1000 years later.

Emps apparently only made one batch, but Durin may have tweaked that.
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damn, it sounds like the fuckup of the scale of time around the emperor and the great crusade is almost as bad as them fucking up the scale of the tau.

presumably durin has patched those plot holes, or will if we poke them.
 
@Durin, I just noticed something re-reading the turn results - at the top of the Arbites section, we've got:

Durin said:
Of the 11,372 major psykers found over the last five years 857 of them were Chaotic, a normal proportion.

757 Chaotic Psykers consisting of 12 Beta-levels, 63 Gamma-levels, 182 Delta-levels, 341 Epsilon-levels and 341 Zeta-levels were killed without causing any significant levels of damage over the last five years.
1 Gamma-level, and 1 Epsilon-level caused damage over the last five years.
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but then in Jane's Greater Psyker Hunting action result it says:

Durin said:
Jane spent five years leading the hunt for the most powerful of the chaos Psykers, time in which shee killed one beta-level and both of the Alpha-levels that showed themselves, though in the case of the Alpha's not before they caused a significant amount of damage. Given the sheer devastation that Alpha-level Psykers have been known to cause Jane probably saved tens or even hundreds of millions of lives with those two kills.
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Ok so I was thinking of horrible things that can happen and well Amir-ka major offensive could be against the trust. So not only would it weaken Amirka but also the trust. Fighting the orks would give them living space but also weaken both realms before they get to us.
 
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Nurgle said:
Ok so I was thinking of horrible things that can happen and well Amir-ka major offensive could be against the trust. So not only would it weaken Amirka but also the trust. Fighting the orks would give them leaving space but also weaken both realms before they get to us.
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This was my worst case scenario as well and one I think is likely.
 
Nurgle said:
No some of them went homicidal insane and just started killing everything around them. It was just not them dying of cancer, organ failure, aneurisms, or more exotic things but they also just went insane reliving old battles and not knowing where they were.
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Sounds like trauma, but I'm no expert.

Nurgle said:
Ok so I was thinking of horrible things that can happen and well Amir-ka major offensive could be against the trust. So not only would it weaken Amirka but also the trust. Fighting the orks would give them leaving space but also weaken both realms before they get to us.
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Well one of the things to check is towards whom their offensive is towards.

Though don't discount the possibility of the Blood Dragons being the target.

Remember Atlas is within Amirka so they might think better about us and go for the comparatively less tough Dragons.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
Sounds like trauma, but I'm no expert.


Well one of the things to check is towards whom their offensive is towards.

Though don't discount the possibility of the Blood Dragons being the target.

Remember Atlas is within Amirka so they might think better about us and go for the comparatively less tough Dragons.
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Yeah I thought of that too but we well have a bounty of technology , a bounty that Teenzch , a bounty if anyone finds out about Ridicully , Slaanesh is not happy with Rotbart for permakilling one of the Secret keepers. I can go on but damaging or destroying the trust brings great rewards.
 
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Nurgle said:
Yeah I thought of that too but we well have a bounty of technology and a bounty that Teenzch and a bounty if anyone finds out about Ridicully and Slaanesh is not happy with Rotbart for permakilling one of the Secret keepers. I can go on but damaging or destroying the trust brings great rewards.
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Thing is the blood dragons also have a bounty of technology level 15 vs chaos's 10-12ish.

Not as much as us of course, but I'll be surprised if one of the party leaders don't occasionally get a brain wave.

But, bounty wise

Massive one on Lin from Abomination and a minor one on him from Slaanesh. general grudge from chaos in general.
Jane, significant one on her from Tzeench.
Jacob: Moderate one from Abomination
Rotbart: minor one from Slaanesh major from Tzeench
Ridcully: Major from seemingly everyone cataclysmic from Nurgle if secret is revealed.
Massive on on Areatha from...just about everyone except the abomination

Bounty key
Apocalyptic=Will expend overwhelming resources trying to kill
Massive=Exalted worthy
Significant=Caused significant harm will deploy potent assets
Moderate=Lesser damage wants dead
Minor=pissed off an individual demon
 
Nurgle said:
Ok so I was thinking of horrible things that can happen and well Amir-ka major offensive could be against the trust. So not only would it weaken Amirka but also the trust. Fighting the orks would give them living space but also weaken both realms before they get to us.
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Nurgle said:
Yeah I thought of that too but we well have a bounty of technology , a bounty that Teenzch , a bounty if anyone finds out about Ridicully , Slaanesh is not happy with Rotbart for permakilling one of the Secret keepers. I can go on but damaging or destroying the trust brings great rewards.
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Pretty sure Amir-ka is going to focus their resources on pushing the Orks off their worlds before they go haring off to pick a fight with somebody else. Even the Khornates would realize that's a stupid idea, and the Orks are more than enough fun for them that "more blood" shouldn't be dragging them away from the fight closer to home. There is also the fact that leaders of Chaos polities don't get there by being idiots who can't handle basic risk-reward balancing. The Trust is a very hard target. Avernus is an even harder target. Even if they decided to throw their big offensive at us rather than at the WAAAGH on their own turf, they probably won't be that big of a threat. We basically soloed the Golden Crusade, and whatever Amir-ka throws at us won't be a full crusade.

Also, @Durin, couple minor questions about Thunder Warriors:

1. Do they have the Black Carapace, or would they need power armor designed for non-Astartes?
2. Do they get the same "count as one unit size bigger" rule that Astartes get?
 
RogueInquisitor said:
Pretty sure Amir-ka is going to focus their resources on pushing the Orks off their worlds before they go haring off to pick a fight with somebody else. Even the Khornates would realize that's a stupid idea, and the Orks are more than enough fun for them that "more blood" shouldn't be dragging them away from the fight closer to home. There is also the fact that leaders of Chaos polities don't get there by being idiots who can't handle basic risk-reward balancing. The Trust is a very hard target. Avernus is an even harder target. Even if they decided to throw their big offensive at us rather than at the WAAAGH on their own turf, they probably won't be that big of a threat. We basically soloed the Golden Crusade, and whatever Amir-ka throws at us won't be a full crusade.
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Remember this is chaos we're talking about.

While I do think that some chaos bois don't need a paragon trait to use common sense, its still possible for them to do the stupid.
 
Never underestimate humanity ability to do something stupid and you will never be surprised. I have seen someone who set themselves on fire to try to prove that gasoline will not catch fire if a match is put to into a container of it.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
Thing is the blood dragons also have a bounty of technology level 15 vs chaos's 10-12ish.
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Do we have any idea if Slaanesh is sharing (trading) any of that Dark Eldar technology with the rest of Chaos?
MonkeyTypewriter said:
Worth noting that rids checked who our next opponent is, and it's not Amarika. So absent Divine level fuckery, th hey won't go after us.
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Their biomass will be converted to teeth and spines. It'll be in a different form, but they will come.
 
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AlsoSprachOdin said:
Do we have any idea if Slaanesh is sharing any of that Dark Eldar technology?
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Yes, but slowly and not too much and seemingly it's hard to get out in the boonies where we are.

Durin said:
leads to the local chaos polities gaining access to Dark Eldar technology. While in general this is considered unlikely to be the case, due to the lack of importance that the local region holds
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Then again as it goes onto say Avernus is an X factor in this.
 
Nurgle said:
Ok so I was thinking of horrible things that can happen and well Amir-ka major offensive could be against the trust. So not only would it weaken Amirka but also the trust. Fighting the orks would give them living space but also weaken both realms before they get to us.
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I was also concerned about that. I think that them attacking us(as part of a Tzeentchian conspiracy to soften us up for the Tyranids), or attacking the Orks(same reason, still targeted at us, but now indirectly) is their most likely move. Which is why I think it's important to warn them of the Tyranids before they end their current war. Which means that we might have to find a way to legally do it before the Emergency High council meeting, or somehow move that meeting up to the first year of the next turn and build a plan that involves a lot of conditionals.

I'm concerned enough that I may actually make up a plan next turn just to try to push people into voting to deal with this problem.

@Durin
1.Is it possible to use the sound out action to conduct an emergency vote?(and satisfy the whole, the planetary governments give up the right to conduct external diplomacy, clause in the constitution) If there won't be a high council meeting fast enough to discuss the problem.


Edit: wait my durin tag didn't go through on the first write in, does he still get an alert if it's edited in after the post goes up?
 
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Looking at all the major chaos realms all but the Nexx are Autem to us. So good news they may all be wiped out but than we fight a major hive fleet so good and bad.
 
thatguy said:
Edit: wait my durin tag didn't go through on the first write in, does he still get an alert if it's edited in after the post goes up?
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No edits do not send out alerts even if you edit in a tag. I got you though. @Durin can we get an answer to the question below.

thatguy said:
1.Is it possible to use the sound out action to conduct an emergency vote?(and satisfy the whole, the planetary governments give up the right to conduct external diplomacy, clause in the constitution) If there won't be a high council meeting fast enough to discuss the problem.
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