The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Conventional genetic data.

This is not. Like many avernite wildlife it isn't even guaranteed to be three dimensional. Certainly not something without being filled with psycic power to make em work, which we certainly can't replicate.
Primarchs can be replicated. Don't see why we can't figure out how to replicate psykers, especially with our new Immaterium knowledge.
 
Primarchs can be replicated. Don't see why we can't figure out how to replicate psykers, especially with our new Immaterium knowledge.
By Bile, the expert in the Emperors genetics can replicate them via exceptionally advanced technology and psycic techniques.

He can't just clone them and he should not be taken as indicative of anything in regards to psycic techniques.
 
Fabius isn't the only one capable of learning how Primarchs work. Tranth has a whole trait built around learning things and Primarchs definitely count as "things" in this context.
 
Fabius isn't the only one capable of learning how Primarchs work. Tranth has a whole trait built around learning things and Primarchs definitely count as "things" in this context.
Yes there's one other person who knows how they work and that is Corvus, Tranth can't learn anything without anything to work from and he has nothing on the Primarchs, save the small remnant of their DNA that makes it into the astartes.

So no they don't count as things in this context, because unlike gravetics there's nothing for him to learn, he has no information, no theories nothing.
 
Yes there's one other person who knows how they work and that is Corvus, Tranth can't learn anything without anything to work from and he has nothing on the Primarchs, save the small remnant of their DNA that makes it into the astartes.

So no they don't count as things in this context, because unlike gravetics there's nothing for him to learn, he has no information, no theories nothing.
But he does have theories on the Warp, and he has stuff to learn from for both biology and Warp, so learning how to psyker genetics should be within his capabilities.
 
Nano-Forge +100$ Relic Material Production
The Nano-Forge is an incredibly advanced forge that uses nanites to construct items on a atomic scale. While time consuming and requiring a skilled Magos to use this allows for the production of some of the most complex and advanced technological components at a far greater rate then conventional means.

Ooooh, very nice.

Enthalpic Weapons
Enthalpic weapons create vortices of reverse-flowing time, if only by an instant, and were found in the Data-Jewels on Diephobe. These vortices transport energy and matter from the future within the vortices into the present, causing mass devastation to anything within, including space-time itself. The vortices' sizes are based on the weapons that create them, though the complexity of the required weapon goes up as it gets bigger. In effect Enthalpic weapons are one of the few weapons you have encountered near as deadly as vortex weaponry, and lack Vortex Weaponry volatility and one shot nature. On the other hand they are even more complex and expensive to produce.

Praise the Emperor!

Chrono-Displacer
An inversion of temporal stasis technology provied by the Eldar the Chrono-Displacer allows a user to move forward or backward on their personal timeline. Most commonly this is used to instantly reposition to where you intend to be in a few seconds be or to 'rewind' your physical condition and unmake an injury. A skilled user is almost impossible to kill or contain. It is not without drawbacks however. Most significantly the Chrono-Displacer is an extremely sophisticated device, rivalling Super-Exitus Rifles in complexity and cost. Secondly is a sharp mass limit it can effect. Only the lighest of power armours can be worn in conjunction with the Chrono-Displacer. Finally while it can erase injuries to the user damage to the device itself not only renders it inoperable but has a chance to cause exotic consequences such as being frozen in time or catapulted into the future.

Give one to Jacob. He's probably one of the few people who could actually use one and get away with it given his combat style and not using heavy power armor. Maybe Jane. No, wait... give one to Ridcully too. In the hands of a Diviner this would be hilariously OP.

Psi-Throne Mechanicum:
A version of a throne Mechanicum designed to be compatible with psykers provided by the Eldar. This Throne and its linked psychic circuitry are designed to allow a Knights pilot to channel their powers though the Titan to greater effect, though only the most powerful of psykers can draw real use of of it.

Oh, Psi-Knights are an option now. Nice. I'm guessing this isn't limited to just people who are of Knight bloodlines, as Asgard doesn't have a lot of pyskers to begin with, much less psykers from Knightly houses. Though in that case, I have to wonder how Asgard would react to us making psyker Knights.

The Psychic Cannon
The Eldar have provided the designed for the Psychic Cannon, an Nova Cannon sized weapon designed for use against Warp Entities, that is capable of massed banishment of deamons and significantly disrupting most targets. This weapon is impossibly complex and uses unknown and exotic interactions to work but the Eldar have provided enough schemtics to replicate it.

Slaps some Runes of Banishment on the thing to empower it further. Daemon ships get wrecked!

Nanite repair system
Taken from a massive dark age star ship known as the Scavenger Bot, an ancient ship that at some point was set loose to eternally upgrade itself...well until the Eldar destroyed it. However, its repair system sparked the interest of the Eldar who did it, taking the design as a trophy, but if put to use it would decrease the maintenance of ships as well as providing repairs to them, reducing the number of totally destroyed ships even if it will not be of use in combat directly.

Soooo shiny. Less upkeep is big for maintaining a big fleet. Less total losses also helps a lot.

Navigator Development Guide
One of the Data-Jewels on Diephobe contained a how to guide on making and breeding Navigators. From what Scott can tell with this guide all that is needed before the Imperial Trust can start making entirely new Navigator Houses is samples from the correct Avernite Wildlife. Given that all that is needed is a fish native to the Polar Regions moving north and making contact with the Penguins has grown significantly in priority.

Well, looks like we're going to be asking That Woman for a favor to help us with an expedition up there to negotiate with the penguins. Colonization of the tundra region is something of a no-go since we're still in the process of just starting to colonize another new region as is. But this doesn't require us to colonize - just send a flying mobile research station up in that direction with Areatha on board and find out what they would want in exchange for giving us fish. What could the penguins want? Offworld fishies? Luxury goods? Their own voxcast?

But yes, we need to do this because we are limited in the number of Navigators we have, and so are the other polities. It's something that only we can provide, which means we'll be exporting stable navigator houses in upcoming meetings.

The Navigator's Eyepiece
Found in one of the Data-Jewels on Diephobe, the Navigator's eye piece looks more like a confusing eye patch, but in the place of a patch is a mass of lenses and psyically active crystals. When secured over the Navigator's Eye the device activates, and effectively helps focus the Navigator's vision, and provides a suit of supplementary tools to that effect, allowing the navigators to filter out unneeded information to read warp currents to better effect. A complex item not just to create, but also operate the device necessitates a great deal of training and constant adjustment by its wearer to fine tune itself to the ever changing warp. However, in skilled hands a navigator can increase the speed a ship passes through the Imperium considerably.

I believe that should be "Empyerian". Still, very shiny!
 
Give one to Jacob. He's probably one of the few people who could actually use one and get away with it given his combat style and not using heavy power armor. Maybe Jane.
From the discord:
Durin: yeah [Jane's] thing has always been not taking hits rather then tanking them, so something that boosts agility at the cost of armour is right up her alley
[...]
[Jacob] has a choice between terminator armour or the displacer, and prefers the termaintor armour
 
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But he does have theories on the Warp, and he has stuff to learn from for both biology and Warp, so learning how to psyker genetics should be within his capabilities.
Again doubtful, maybe learning how to predict and refine our detection system, maybe figure out some improvements here and there, but not much more beyond that I'd guess.

An inversion of temporal stasis technology
@Durin
1. The Eldar didn't give us any temporal statsis technology?


Oh, Psi-Knights are an option now. Nice. I'm guessing this isn't limited to just people who are of Knight bloodlines, as Asgard doesn't have a lot of pyskers to begin with, much less psykers from Knightly houses. Though in that case, I have to wonder how Asgard would react to us making psyker Knights.
Yep, you don't need to be a member of the Familia to use these, Discord confirmation.
1. Does the Psi Throne Mechanicum also necessitate the user be a member of the quaestoris familia?

1. it does jnot
 
Again doubtful, maybe learning how to predict and refine our detection system, maybe figure out some improvements here and there, but not much more beyond that I'd guess.


@Durin
1. The Eldar didn't give us any temporal statsis technology?



Yep, you don't need to be a member of the Familia to use these, Discord confirmation.
1. Does the Psi Throne Mechanicum also necessitate the user be a member of the quaestoris familia?

1. it does jnot
1. no you already had it
 
@Durin

1. Do the Eldar have their own means of eliminating Daemon Worlds or cleansing Chaos Tainted worlds? (That ideally isn't 'Throw psykers to pyromance it slowly')
2. Would you be willing to share as to what kind of feat would get someone a Paragon Admin or Diplo stat?
 
@Durin
1. What is the immediate use Rotbart sees for the Warriors? I see use as additional psyker hunters as being the obvious one.
Apologies for the Warrior fixation ATM.
2. Slightly less attached to this, which Avernite critters have we handed over? Beer Grass and Nogs seem like the obvious ones, but others like the Carniflowers, Illusory pines (declared safe, but still) seem less likely and I believe we were asked to not take the Beserker fungus off world.
3. Just to check have the Eldar investigated the Assassins? Because they were one of the most powerful Imperial institutions by a very big margin. Them vanishing from all view is and conspicuously not ending up with the abomination is...at best suspicious at worst its a god damn conspiracy making em another patsy candidate.
3ii. If they and they found nothing how concerned should we be?
4. How powerful diviners are the shards of Lieath? Vaul was apparently equal to a transcendent craftsman?
5. Oh yes, did we ever get the opportunity to give Vulkan (or a shard of Vaul if any are around) a look at the Black Crystals?
5ii. If yes then did he get anything out of it.
6. If the opportunity comes up do any of the attendees, Eldrad, Primarchs etc. think we should contact the PM? It is what the crystals are for apparently, it if our guesses are sound then its been contacted before without everything exploding.
7. Has Corvus given permission for us to request assistance from non humans like Lulana in improving the Thunder Warriors if we believe that she could help improve them.
 
Ordinatus - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
Ordinatus Armageddon aka "Oberon" - bears a massive plasma-based Nova Cannon, normally only mounted on Voidships, capable of blasting apart enemy Titans with one shot or destroying a tank detachment with a single salvo.
The Psychic Cannon
The Eldar have provided the designed for the Psychic Cannon, an Nova Cannon sized weapon designed for use against Warp Entities, that is capable of massed banishment of deamons and significantly disrupting most targets.
 
@Durin

1. Do the Eldar have their own means of eliminating Daemon Worlds or cleansing Chaos Tainted worlds? (That ideally isn't 'Throw psykers to pyromance it slowly')
2. Would you be willing to share as to what kind of feat would get someone a Paragon Admin or Diplo stat?
1. they do
2. I have not decided
@Durin
1. What is the immediate use Rotbart sees for the Warriors? I see use as additional psyker hunters as being the obvious one.
Apologies for the Warrior fixation ATM.
2. Slightly less attached to this, which Avernite critters have we handed over? Beer Grass and Nogs seem like the obvious ones, but others like the Carniflowers, Illusory pines (declared safe, but still) seem less likely and I believe we were asked to not take the Beserker fungus off world.
3. Just to check have the Eldar investigated the Assassins? Because they were one of the most powerful Imperial institutions by a very big margin. Them vanishing from all view is and conspicuously not ending up with the abomination is...at best suspicious at worst its a god damn conspiracy making em another patsy candidate.
3ii. If they and they found nothing how concerned should we be?
4. How powerful diviners are the shards of Lieath? Vaul was apparently equal to a transcendent craftsman?
5. Oh yes, did we ever get the opportunity to give Vulkan (or a shard of Vaul if any are around) a look at the Black Crystals?
5ii. If yes then did he get anything out of it.
6. If the opportunity comes up do any of the attendees, Eldrad, Primarchs etc. think we should contact the PM? It is what the crystals are for apparently, it if our guesses are sound then its been contacted before without everything exploding.
7. Has Corvus given permission for us to request assistance from non humans like Lulana in improving the Thunder Warriors if we believe that she could help improve them.
1. possibly, or as shock troops. to be honest he can see why they were repalced with Astartes
2. all of the above bar the fungus
3. they have, all they know is that those temples that were not destroyed met up with Culaxus and diaspeared from their sight
3ii. moertly
4. upper Paragon
5. you did
5ii. Just that it is beyond its skills and seems to have among other things become an Avatar of the Concept of DEATH
6. they dont know enough to give an opinion
7. he has not one way or the other
 
Avatar of the Concept of DEATH
Ah all caps.

This is a big deal.

1. possibly, or as shock troops. to be honest he can see why they were repalced with Astartes
He's not wrong, they are the superior product in a lot of ways but I'm not giving up on them, just because emps decided to put together a rush job and then never went back and fixed them.

I prefer the under dogs!

7. he has not one way or the other
mmm right.

@Durin
1. Can we ask the trust for Lulana's help on this in the future, should it ever become a viable option.
 
Ah all caps.

This is a big deal.


He's not wrong, they are the superior product in a lot of ways but I'm not giving up on them, just because emps decided to put together a rush job and then never went back and fixed them.

I prefer the under dogs!


mmm right.

@Durin
1. Can we ask the trust for Lulana's help on this in the future, should it ever become a viable option.
1. you can
 
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