- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
Please just use Callamian. Calla/umite is far too catamite.
Also the fact that neither of those things are supposed to be controlled/programmed by an outside source.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
- Location
- Australia
Aside from the Turoq favour, which is time-sensitive, I think we should hold off on using any favours before we talk to the High Council about it. Even minor favours have the potential to change things for the entirety of the Trust, so they kinda deserve to be included in the conversation. We'd think the same if it were another planet that had the favours.
Aside from basic politeness, it also means we get their opinions on what our plans are for the favours, which is always good to know. They might also come up with their own ideas, ideas that may be better than ours.
Not saying the final say should go to the High Council, just that we should talk to them about this stuff.
Aside from basic politeness, it also means we get their opinions on what our plans are for the favours, which is always good to know. They might also come up with their own ideas, ideas that may be better than ours.
Not saying the final say should go to the High Council, just that we should talk to them about this stuff.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Actually that's a point...when is the meeting?
Like is it before or after Rids went off? Or do we still have another turn before it?
- Location
- Australia
I think it's next turn. We haven't had to spend an action going there this turn so it definitely hasn't happened yet.Actually that's a point...when is the meeting?
Like is it before or after Rids went off? Or do we still have another turn before it?
- Location
- Back in Cali
It's supposed to be at the end of the coming turn but the attack is happening year one I think. Don't know if we have an emergency meeting or not.Actually that's a point...when is the meeting?
Like is it before or after Rids went off? Or do we still have another turn before it?
As for the favors those are always going to be what the High Council and the Trust as a whole decide. They aren't for us to use after all but for the Imperial Trust.
What on earth gave you that idea? It's in the update: Avernus is owed favors as Ridicully's homeworld. The Eldar could not care less about the Trust. Do you think they will care about the opinions of random governors?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Well the Eldar don't, but we do...and if we don't keep em in the loop there'll probably be issues.
Still
@Durin
1. Does Klovis know what Council's reaction to Ridcully's success has been?
2. His blessing?
3. Do we think they'd be in favour of the Eldar dealing with Turoq in some regard?
OK, how are they going to compel the world with the galactic level beat-stick to give up its resources obtained with no Trust-wide aid I might add?
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
They can't force anything, but being uncooperative little shits is good way to ruin our diplomatic standing.
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Oh we will be perfectly cooperative when and how it suits us. Since they can't compel us every world will have to consider if pissing off Avernus and their box of Eldar favors in an impotent stand is worth it.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Cut off our funding.
We are highly reliant on the Trust through trade and subsidies.
The only way we can say **** you and not feel the burn is to use some of that resource and I doubt it'd be permanent.
So how about instead of being disruptive toddlers we instead work with these people...yes that is me saying that I have not been replaced by an alien (I love humaning)
Achievement List
- Location
- Lowton
Just putting out some achievement ideas I had after going over some.
Achievement List
I... I didn't think that was possible-Have an Avernite character die of natural causes (old age).
Damn it Lin stay with me!- Proper natural causes damn it!
I am one with the warp, the warp is with me.- Get aforce ghost warp character.
Those who built Excalibur- Built a sword that can excaliblast.
And the Dark Mec thought they would learn over there- Have the Mechanicus completely outpace their dark counterparts in making new technology.
Just because you can call bigger friends does not mean we can't either- Called in Eldar support against the Dark Mechanicus.
We are just bringing popcorn- Have the Trust defeat Turoq and his allies single-handedly.
You know if you don't come to us we come to you- Successfully true kill Turoq in an assassination or unexpected assault.
NOTHING HAPPENED HERE- The Chaos gods fail to realise it was Ridicully that delivered the message.
We are here to support waifu rights!- Take part in a successful rescue of Isha.
Shiny shines everywhere- Raise the tech levels of the most powerful human politys by 2 levels.
Ehh... what do we do? Have a period of peace that lasts over 50 years with no disasters or invasions.
Lin, I need your help- Seek guidance from Saint Lin about how do deal with Xenos worshipping you.
Oh, so that's what they are-Finish Lins research on the Chaos Gods.
Tranth... Do it- Create designs for all types of Titans.
TiTANS *SQUEE*-Produce all of the said Titans.
Together we are a Primarch- Have a Paragon or higher for every stat available.
Wait, your NOT a Primarch!- Have a character with every stat at paragon or higher.
The Meta's Meta-Have the empire of ashes quest get an achievement because of your actions.
A Stern Rebuke - Won the War on 2 Fronts
They came.. from behind - Took advantage of Magma Wyrm attack to massive effect.
Anglycide - Permakilled the 3rd Circle Archangyl
Divine Headache - Overkilled the 3rd Circle Archangyl
Survivors - Survived the 3rd Daemonic Incursion
The Return of the King - Ressuructed Gulliman
Peaceful Rest - Had Saint Lin pass away non-violently
Horrors from the Beyond - Defeated Hive-Fleet Grabakr
I did what I had to do - Did numerous ruthless acts to win.
A Green Conflagration - Had Operation Hecatoncheir succeed
Dragon Friends - Fused with Dragon's Nest
Trust's Conclave - Organized the Grand Conclave
The Spider's Web - Had Klovis' plot succeed.
I am Omegon - Had his plot succeed well enough to recruit the Omega Legion
The Dotted Line of Rotbart - lose all your biological heirs and successors(edited)
@Durin I made a thing I am not sure what though.
Edit I will add ones we finished here.
Just because you can call bigger friends does not mean we can't either.
You know if you don't come to us we come to you.
Achievement List
I... I didn't think that was possible-Have an Avernite character die of natural causes (old age).
Damn it Lin stay with me!- Proper natural causes damn it!
I am one with the warp, the warp is with me.- Get a
Those who built Excalibur- Built a sword that can excaliblast.
And the Dark Mec thought they would learn over there- Have the Mechanicus completely outpace their dark counterparts in making new technology.
Just because you can call bigger friends does not mean we can't either- Called in Eldar support against the Dark Mechanicus.
We are just bringing popcorn- Have the Trust defeat Turoq and his allies single-handedly.
You know if you don't come to us we come to you- Successfully true kill Turoq in an assassination or unexpected assault.
NOTHING HAPPENED HERE- The Chaos gods fail to realise it was Ridicully that delivered the message.
We are here to support waifu rights!- Take part in a successful rescue of Isha.
Shiny shines everywhere- Raise the tech levels of the most powerful human politys by 2 levels.
Ehh... what do we do? Have a period of peace that lasts over 50 years with no disasters or invasions.
Lin, I need your help- Seek guidance from Saint Lin about how do deal with Xenos worshipping you.
Oh, so that's what they are-Finish Lins research on the Chaos Gods.
Tranth... Do it- Create designs for all types of Titans.
TiTANS *SQUEE*-Produce all of the said Titans.
Together we are a Primarch- Have a Paragon or higher for every stat available.
Wait, your NOT a Primarch!- Have a character with every stat at paragon or higher.
The Meta's Meta-Have the empire of ashes quest get an achievement because of your actions.
A Stern Rebuke - Won the War on 2 Fronts
They came.. from behind - Took advantage of Magma Wyrm attack to massive effect.
Anglycide - Permakilled the 3rd Circle Archangyl
Divine Headache - Overkilled the 3rd Circle Archangyl
Survivors - Survived the 3rd Daemonic Incursion
The Return of the King - Ressuructed Gulliman
Peaceful Rest - Had Saint Lin pass away non-violently
Horrors from the Beyond - Defeated Hive-Fleet Grabakr
I did what I had to do - Did numerous ruthless acts to win.
A Green Conflagration - Had Operation Hecatoncheir succeed
Dragon Friends - Fused with Dragon's Nest
Trust's Conclave - Organized the Grand Conclave
The Spider's Web - Had Klovis' plot succeed.
I am Omegon - Had his plot succeed well enough to recruit the Omega Legion
The Dotted Line of Rotbart - lose all your biological heirs and successors(edited)
@Durin I made a thing I am not sure what though.
Edit I will add ones we finished here.
You know if you don't come to us we come to you.
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Right I can already see Muselheim cutting off trade with us over that... or for that matter the rest of the progressives. They would ever get that though the High Council and for good reason. Cutting off vital trade would be tantamount to a declaration of war and then anyone stupid enough to be on the other side would just...loose.
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- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
That's... basicly the definition of being uncooperative. And incredibly arrogant and dumb, acting as a some crazed cultist drunk on power. Not being power-penis waiving, infighting morons are what sets us apart and above Chaos and the like.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
The rest of the progressives are highly involved in the Trust project and will come down on us hard for being a **** and I'd agree with them for doing so.
We have no reason to suddenly turn into a raging asshole and your entire "plan" is predicated on the idea that we're always going to be able to pay the Eldar off and that somehow we'd be stronger for doing this...like no no we are not.
No. It's acting like someone who is in a position of uncontested power, which we are right now, unless we surrender that power. The politics of the Trust have been fundamentally changed by our ability to generate favor for Avernus with a galactic power.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Alright we surrender the power.
Seriously almost the big thing of the quest is that standing together lets people win against insurmountable odds, I'm not ripping the Trust apart over this.
Yeesh and people say power corrupts.
You seem to be confusing the ultimate threat of a coup with the reality of it. Why would the progressive make a front make a front against us for being 'assholes' when they can get much nicer things by making one with us? Politics is not predicated on morality but on power dynamics.
- Location
- madison
it's a theme of the quest that that exact line of thinking is largely responsible for why everything went to shit. Everyone acting like self interested douchnozzles meant the monsters went un ganged up on and screwed everything up.
we work for the good of the trust because the trust has a much better chance of surviving than Avernus alone.
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That's not a line of thinking it's just how politics works, tribe to star empire. Every time one power takes another as a vassal, that is power dynamics, every time someone leverages wealth or technology to make a trade, that is power dynamics.
For that matter I'm not even sure we can meaningfully surrender those favors. We can say we do and promise sure, but the thing is the Eldar still won't give a damn about that promise so it will be hollow at its core, unenforceable.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
And that's part of why the Imperium failed.
We shouldn't leave morality out of politics, that's when we become inhumane, when people stop being people they become numbers on a sheet and problems to be solved.
To attempt this kind of coup the Eldar would likely have to destroy Vanaheim, and savage alfheim and Svartheim of the Core worlds alone never mind the colonies, in terms of cold blooded calculus that's a lot of dead workers and destroyed infrastructure, but it also sows the seed of hatred that will never heal unless we wipe them out completely.
The reality of this "coup" is a trust "progressive" but crippled and any attempt to convert other polities to our way of thinking strangled in its crib.
And politics is the worlds most hated profession next to banker go figure.
I don't care about the power dynamics, what is best for the trust, for it to be kept together and grow stronger as a whole, what does not contribute to that, acting like a high handed ass wipe.
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New idea on what to ask. The Eldar build a webway BETWEEN your worlds. Basically current holdings, and maybe useful stars nearby ask the Eldar to build webway for you.
- Location
- Lowton
We are not bringing complex politics here I get enough of that in lectures thank you
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Almost certainly already there they just refrain from using them for our sake.
Ah a fellow comrade in arms.
- Location
- The United States
I am curious if we would be able to gain access to the Black Library with one of our favors.
I do not know whether or not Durin has spoken of this yet so I hesitate to tag him.
I do not know whether or not Durin has spoken of this yet so I hesitate to tag him.