The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
+1% admin efficiency, now 65.5%
Reward: +0.5% administrative efficiency (currently 62.5%)
Also, ummm.
Reward: increase education modifier by +1% (currently +300%)

Complete
d100=84+14(administration)=98: Success

Edvin spent a year conducting an review of the educational system of Avernus, or at least as much of it as he could. He found several places in which it could be improved, in large part due to how much both Avernus and your technology has changed since Henry set it up all those years ago. While minor he estimates that the changes that he made will increase your income by over fifty million Thrones a year, a substitutional amount.
 
@Durin
1. When we did Add Stealth Technology (Elite) and Add Stealth Technology (Raider) did we only improve regular human version of those armors or did we improve Astarte versions as well?
 
I'll admit I haven't been reading the thread closely, so maybe I missed something, but why are we losing a couple thousand food every turn? It doesn't matter too much yet with 500k stockpiled, but it is still concerning.
 
The only option I see somewhat doable is if we somehow save the Isha (Eldar god) from Nurgle.

That should be enough for the Eldar and Isha to help save LIN unconditionally. What other god would/could help Lin before he dies?

If Lin would accept that help is somewhat positive. That Isha would help Lin even than is somewhat more negative (she is an Eldar god) as she may very well be unable to do so.
 
Well Durin just said it


But here's where the stuff can only be done by specific gods.

Can't find the original quote, but as I recall Lin refuses point blank to have the power removed from him.

It is literally his life, the last living remnant of his God and it'll let him die a peaceful, true death, he's allowed to be selfish.

Basically unless the Eldar can free Isha (they tried they didn't succeed), or Vulkan can turn his crafting mastery to divine level soul surgery so he can reinforce Lin's soul or something, Lin's dying end of story.

@Durin
1. this about sum it up?
2. Speaking of the meeting, do the Eldar have an ETA for when that'll all be ready or is it too variable depending on how stubborn the participants are. In general would they say 10-20 years?
1. pretty much
2. 20ish
@Durin

1. Could you add in the Part 3 of Titan Designing to Explorator, whatever it is?
2. Will our reputation be hurt if we don't take Deployment?
3. Can we take Personal Attention: Deploy Fleet?
4. Can we take over Sarnow's current actions with our Personal Attention?
5. I think our Education Bonus should 301%, we took Educational Review at some point in the past.
1. not until Tranth is back
2. not much
3. yes
4. no
5. it is, i often dont update the choices after every success, I have enough records keeping in this quest as it is without going perfectionist
 
Going to new regions opens up many new things. More resources, animals, psychic materials, our deathworlds bonus, and people to meet.
You mean things that we already have a huge backlog of?

Our issue right now is not a lack of exotics or things to exploit. Its a lack of our various forms of money.

And to be perfectly frank, our soldiers are good enough. The improved deathworlder bonus is the least compelling.
 
I think we need to start thinking how some parts of Avernus can protect us from other parts of Avernus.

Butcher birds to calm down monsters in general.

Illusionary pines in Aridia to subtly divert away those huge rhino herds and laser T-rex from areas we live in. ( We can provide the irrigation for the plants)

Breed dragonflies into our cities to cut down on the spider population.

We have done everything we can to protect ourselves with technology short of leaving to live in space habitats.

Embrace Avernus and use what it provides in Harmony.
Hm, here's a thought. Do you think that maybe all those Education Reviews at once might work Fred towards a Trait or Learning increase?

I would be amazed if Fred gets a new trait ever again.

Everyone else does except him.

Maybe we should eschew the Black Crystal items. Maybe they are holding us back from developing more.

Edit: Would be nice to get some Admin points. At one point Administration was our best stat. *sigh* I guess it is a representation of why we are in the hole with our economy.
 
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A Sermon

People keep asking about increasingly odd ways to 'save' Lin and keep him longer than necessary. How selfish we can be to deny a Saint his peace when his time comes! Don't you know the old teachings, that man has a life but once and afterwards is the Emperor's Peace? You selfish ones! How cruel you are to deny that which is the natural course of events? That way lies the Ruinous Powers, and last I checked, we're not playing a Chaos Quest!

Speak not anymore of asking about Lin's health, save that ye make sure he's comfortable and he gets plenty of tea and that his Church be of strong heart and stout soul to resist the lure of the Empyrean. His time will come when his time will come and though we will mourn, rejoice as well, for the Emperor, though dead, may yet be born anew at a time and place of His choosing. Prepare and await that time and until then, we must endure! We must strive onwards and conquer all our regions! We must face our enemies and laugh in their faces as we stick our knives into their hearts! And we must never, ever allow doubt and despair get in the way of the things that must be done to secure our planets, our Trust and our people!

For we are Avernus, the ones who endure all things! So as I close this little speech, remember one thing:

Audentes fortuna iuvat! (Fortune favors the bold!)

So be bold and go forth! Discover new lands! Invent new technologies! Invite new worlds into our Trust! And finally, don't forget to punch our enemies with a laser-spewing Tyrannosaur to the face!

Sicut vult Impertoris! (As the Emperor wills!)
 
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Ok the problem is the only way for Rotbart to gain a new trait is a nat hundred or to constantly do something incredibly hard and complicated. He is superhuman in 3 stats.

We know if we can find someway to beat Turoq we will get a trait. But the problem with that is no one has a way too and Turoq will see through any plan after we do it.
 
Butcher birds to calm down monsters in general.

Illusionary pines in Aridia to subtly divert away those huge rhino herds and laser T-rex from areas we live in. ( We can provide the irrigation for the plants)

Breed dragonflies into our cities to cut down on the spider population.

We have done everything we can to protect ourselves with technology short of leaving to live in space habitats.

Embrace Avernus and use what it provides in Harmony.
Actually the Butcher Birds wouldn't be much use for that. They maybe able to stop monsters that ain't nuts already, but if they are then their emotions are already too high to stop.

I think you mean Elysium. Not sure how much they'd help either since their reaction would likely be STRAIGHT ON THROUGH!!!

Done that already too.
 
So this is how our answer to Turoq's plan is probably like:

On every vulnerable world, there might be:
1) Large fleet w/Sufficient Defences.
- A Raid enters, they leave. Or they don't raid at all, which is equivalent.
2) Small Fleet, possibly with mines.
- Raid enters, hits minefields+ambush, gets taken down or suffers enough damage that it's basically equivalent anyway.
- There isn't a minefield. Raid hits planet.

On every ground world, there might be:
1) Large Forces.
- Abort the raid/Raid didn't happen in the first place.
2) Insufficient forces, but maybe there are elites.
- Raid suddenly and inexplicably dies.
- There aren't actually elites. Raid succeeds.

There isn't really a way to seriously counter the warp-in mine tactic other than luck, since entering in small amounts allows enemies to hit you individually, defeat in detail. However, we can keikaku by constantly moving warded ships such that every lightly defended world could potentially have a devastating prep of minefields or a devastating set of elites and heroes. If our forces are sufficiently resistant to Divination, Ridcully could even counter-Divination our opponent, since his Divinations cannot be predicted.

What I mean is that he could predict that our opponents predicts (or maybe tracks, little difference) that 'There is a space marine squad on this planet, don't attack', and deliberately have set things up so that that planet's only elites is literally one squadron of space marines. That paragon trait of 'Cannot be out-keikaku'ed' is going to be saving our koister here.

The funny thing here is that we're basically mimicing N-Steps ahead on a stellar scale, but using Ridcully's Divinations to actually allow it to happen as if we had N-Steps ahead on a stellar scale. So if we got N-Steps Ahead (Stellar version) it would be entirely appropriate.

This plan isn't perfect, and can be countered with new plans (ex: Attacking in enough places where it is objectively impossible to have enough to defend all), but those counters can be summed up as 'Pain in the ass' to implement, which is a victory in itself, since such counters automatically slow down his raiding schedule or increase his costs per raid significantly.
@Durin

1. What does Rotbart think of this improved plan? I think it's resistant to 'Daemons that know all your ship movements' at the very least.
2. Could we, um, implement the tactic the Tzeentch Psykers used whereby a bunch of psykers basically float in space to bypass shields and subsequently board ships? Can Ridcully Divine Enemy Expected Orbit that well? (I think it can only work once, ever, before countermeasures kick in, but we might take out Turoq's heavier assets like this)
 
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@Shard I think your plan may work but we do have a way to do something you want. We can put stealth on assault shuttles like Sarnow asked years ago. We know nothing that is not Eldar or necron can detect them but also ward the assault shuttles .
 
@Shard I think your plan may work but we do have a way to do something you want. We can put stealth on assault shuttles like Sarnow asked years ago. We know nothing that is not Eldar or necron can detect them but also ward the assault shuttles .
Daemons can see Gellar Fields, so unless we want to send Stealth ships though ordinary flight technology it doesn't really work. (~8 Years travel time?)
 
Honestly with his psycic advantage in space we're dealing again with issues. He doesn't need to fire too many shots in order to get a win in.

I hope the Inquisition is on ball.

Personally I see looking at the way the Rune of Warding interacts with the Geller Field and warp drive to be a priority, if we can get another speed boost, then we close his window of raiding more.

@Shard I think your plan may work but we do have a way to do something you want. We can put stealth on assault shuttles like Sarnow asked years ago. We know nothing that is not Eldar or necron can detect them but also ward the assault shuttles .
Yes nothing can detect them...save maybe sorcerors.

I dunno, would the absence of something be fishy enough that a sorcerer would deduce something was hiding there quickly, or wards not work like that?

Still less musing, but we know other factions not Necron or Eldar can detect them, they just need to either get close or be dumb...or again psykers, but I dunno how well warding would hide them.
 
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Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Make a Request (Assist Ridcully in his Research)
-Y2: Investigate (Sub-Sector Cobalt)
-Y3: Re-Examine (Master of Sanctity)
-Y4: Re-Investigate (Alfheim)
-Y5: Re-Examine (Archmagos Arkhan Varnek)
I'd like to investigate the Nynye. For one thing, I'm not sure how much clout Lulana actually has. Our understanding of their internal political structure, and even population numbers is rather basic.
 
Daemons can see Gellar Fields, so unless we want to send Stealth ships though ordinary flight technology it doesn't really work. (~8 Years travel time?)
Not stealth ships but stealth assault shuttles. They know where the ships are but they do not know what they are caring. So we can theoretically move assault shuttles to where the attacks will happen and take out a lot of ships in orbit. Since Sarnow said that avernites attacking a ship this way would require a lot of resources to fight off.
 
@Durin

1. Could we commission the Sirens for Warded Armor?
2. Could we commission them for Ward-Piercing Super Exitus Rounds?
3. What are the states of the Battle Barges that the Abominable Crusades hit us with? It has been 45 years since they were removed from the hives of Dis.
 
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People keep asking about increasingly odd ways to 'save' Lin and keep him longer than necessary. How selfish we can be to deny a Saint his peace when his time comes!
The afterlife in 40k is the shitties place ever. Everyone goes to hell. No exceptions.

If I lived there I would willingly give myself up on my deathbed to be fed to the sirens.

If we ever had the option to stave death off or cage souls like the Eldar do into spirit stones then we should.
 
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