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Most yeah, simply from slowly getting used to the new normal, although the conservatives have been getting relatively much more lenient recently due to discoveries made by Tranth.
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Most yeah, simply from slowly getting used to the new normal, although the conservatives have been getting relatively much more lenient recently due to discoveries made by Tranth.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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Suicide is not a legal obligation.
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
Heresy has a strict legal definition, I think.
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@Durin, it's canon that Technomancy is used to make food-producing machines produce massively improved crop yields. Could we use Technomancy to massively increase the computational power of cogitators?
She's a heretic.
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humans are not legally required to worship the emperor. She's also not a trust citizen.
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Not worshipping the Emperor isn't what makes her a heretic, it's seeing humans as no better than xenos that makes her a heretic.
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then it would depend on the exact laws. Fortunately, we're a dictator so we can just decree that she's an exception.
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"Making an exception for a heretic" isn't something that will go down well with anyone and sets a dangerous precedent.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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Double fortunately, we're not an idiot dictator, so we damn well should be nice to the walking ball of doom with boobers.
Because, you know, Transcendent Alpha.
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well damn, the next nonhostile, noncorrupt transcendent alpha psyker we meet who falls afoul of the technical definition of heresy will have to also get a pass.
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*Groan* Not this again. Look, one of the main issues of the previous Emperium was the whole killing people that didn't agree with you thing which is something the Trust has likely decided at least pragmatically was probably something they wouldn't want to practice considering by that logic other people that see them as heretics would have justification to try to kill them Seeing as the Trust would likely want to avoid that kind of thing, especially when it comes to the truly powerful they are likely to give it a pass as long as they aren't actively being harmful or worshipping chaos or being an active enemy to mankind.
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Doomed Wombat
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So are the Trust's atheists by that definition, but somehow we're not killing them.
Rotbart is an ex Imperial, who was raised under that system, of course he still sees things like her as heretical he still goes "Oh heresy" when ever he thinks emps is dead and sees Azyr.
In other news nobody has asked if it is illegal to be a heretic on Avernus. The closest is one of your questions on whether or not it is illegal to be a daemon.
The answer is no, being a daemon is not illegal, but summoning one is. From that I'd surmise our definition of heretic is something along the lines of being in league with the ruinous powers.
This is strange to me in the extreme. Does this mean that if a daemon doesn't do anything wrong that we'd just let them wander around?
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The Trust's atheists don't worship the God-Emperor. That isn't heresy. Areatha isn't a heretic because she doesn't worship the Emperor, she's a heretic because she considers humans to be equal to xenos.
Not only is it illegal to be a heretic on Avernus, it's punishable by death.
Putting xenos on the same level as non-Chaos humans is now what xenos love is classified as, but xenos love is still heresy, and because it's heresy you'll get executed for it.
Over PMs, I told him about a potential loophole that allows for genocide of non-Chaos humans and xenos if they commit heresy as we see it and he confirmed its plausibility.
Doomed Wombat
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Theoretically.
This isn't WHF, but 40K Warhammer does have some warp entities that are not instantly hostile. Though chances of one being summoned are so low its not worth thinking about.
Seriously?
Well if you really want to piss her off for being right, vote to try and kill her.
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Yes, seriously. As I understand it, if she doesn't repent for her heresy and begin believing rightfully that humans are better than xenos, we'd be legally obligated to kill her. Since trying to kill her is obviously a bad idea, we need to talk with Lin and the other Trust leaders to come up with a solution that avoids us having to fight with a Transcendent Alpha if she chooses to remain a heretic.
Shard
One and Many
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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As people have already pointed out.
We make an exception.
We're a dictator with unlimited authority to interact with the inhabitants of Avernus so long as the council set up by the Trust signs off on it.
But, if you want here's three alternatives
1. Does the erugh heretic law or indeed any law apply to human alien hybrids which is what she is?
2. We just declare unilaterally she's a resident of Avernus and she can use that if she needs to put her species into any forms.
3. Lin says she can come in **** off, he's fine with her.
Of all the potential security concerns, intelligence concerns and more this is not an important one. In fact I would so far to label it as a dumb one.
It is only a problem if we make it one and I refuse to believe we're that legalistic.
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Shard
One and Many
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BTW under this logic we should kill Lin.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Not really...I mean I'd be very surprised if he didn't treat them the same, but at the same time he probably doesn't think of them the same way.
Shard
One and Many
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Lin doesn't think of Humans as superior to Xenos, in fact he rejects that thinking.
It's heretical, thereof by your logic we should kill him.
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He does think humans are superior to xenos. He's the one who penned the New Imperial Truth after all and the New Imperial Truth says that humans are superior to xenos.
Do you have a source that says he thinks humans are equal to xenos? I've already provided a source detailing what the New Imperial Truth says about xenos love.