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yeah, that said Jacob has 2 traits that boost trait gain. he's going to have an easier time breaking through to transcendent than most.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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yeah, that said Jacob has 2 traits that boost trait gain. he's going to have an easier time breaking through to transcendent than most.
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Part 2:
Ridcully could've given bonuses to the fleet actions, help ground preparations, or begun getting a True Name.
Black crystal jewellery should've been lent to boost Ridcully's power during divination.
Diviners could've given bonuses to fleet actions or help ground preparations.
Sirens could've given bonuses to fleet actions or help ground preparations.
Trolls could've terrascaping the ground in preparation for the enemy or set up titan traps.
Technological terrascaping could've taken place as it would take a long time for the enemy to arrive.
Traps, hidden hard points, and other non-psychic preparations could've been done.
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Same as Part 2, bar getting the True Name and technological terrascaping.
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Pyromancers should've been put to rest.
Telekines should've conjured up telekinetic shields to protect our AA from suppression.
Black crystal jewellery should've been lent.
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Trolls could've terrascaped or set up titan traps.
One of each type of choir should've been in use.
Black crystal jewellery should've been lent.
Sirens should've been on standby to break morale.
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Xavier and pyromancy choir should've rested. They did very little damage and would've been better off resting so they could kill more daemons the turn after, which we were allowing them to summon.
Black crystal jewellery should've been lent.
Part 8
Electronic warfare. It's been a consistent -10 to the enemy throughout the entire ground war but was left out because we thought it would automatically be applied. Deathstrikes may or may not have killed more, but their morale certainly would've been affected, which means the Siren attack could've caused them to fail the second morale roll.
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Throw in the kitchen sink and maybe you'll have something that might be a big deal
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We didn't build titan traps specifically we built traps.
But, yes the Trolls did kill many titans with their trap.
I'd guess that Avernus directed them at the biggest, most valuable targets it could (the Titans), taking our own plans in mind since it would have enough power to know what we were planning.
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1. yes
2. not in command. the champion ranks are pretty much there as a promotion path for soldiers who are gifted at fighting but not command
3. yes, one of the reasons he cause so much damage. along with that sword. interestingly the last crit was needless, he was going to kill the Archangyl unless it got a crit against him
they would have been wiped out (and additional *8 with 20% losses to start with)
1. very low, they were all strong willed, its powers were countered and it was permakilled
2. yes, and Angyls will start being effected by morale
3. yes
you estimate that they would need between 50% of the survivors and 100% to summon the 1st circle
1. yes
2. you do not know, might add that as reserch idea
3. no
4. not yet
5. no
6. yes
7. you get ht idea they are impressed
not saying
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They couldn't, all angyls are capable of flight. So they could only attack ground targets, and since most Sorcerers would be able to escape via teleportation or flight they hit the next most valuable target.
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Yeah, but he super mega ultra killed it.
That's better than just killing it.
Ohhhh...
Shouldn't be disappointed, but am.
Nice I can think of a lot of things true names could be for and even if we just get a better method of learning em that's still good.
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1. Have the Border Lions ceased their attacks as far as we can tell now the Angyel is dead?
2. How many life eater death strikes do we have left? We'll never get the same effect as we just did, but knowing how many we can throw at them is still good to know.
3. Out of curiosity why was there no roll to catch assassins? Have they been pulled back?
4. He and Death's harbringers are listed in our units in the military excel sheet, but...@Durin?
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Humans canonically have true names. Kaldor Draigo defeated Mortarion by blasting his mind with the name the Emperor intended to give him. What the research should do is find out how a true name relates to humans. We know what they can do regarding daemons, but not humans, who are soul-bearing creatures and thus fundamentally different.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure that a human's birth name is their true name, so Frederick's true name would simply be Frederick Rotbart.
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this makes me inordinately pleased. The thought of a unit of Angyls breaking and what it would to the the morale of the rest of their troops is making me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
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Mortarion was a primarch a powerful warp entity created in that way, not really an example to be comparing to everyday joe.
On the other hand do normal humans have true names, if so what effects does it have one them? Does discovering it yourself make you immune to its effects? Does the self realisation the knowledge of the true name grant something? I dunno, but I wanna find out.
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As I edited into my post, I'm pretty sure a human's birth name is their true name. We've never been given evidence that suggests otherwise. Names are for the most part just names for humans and other soul-bearing species. At the very least they don't seem to be anywhere near as important to them as for daemons.
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Didn't we already kill the Changeling?
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We don't know for certain, but it's unlikely.
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I looked into it and the lexicanium article on it states that sometimes a mortal who has become a demon prince has their mortal name as their true name.
However, there's nothing on the true names of those who are currently still mortal, or why its only a sometimes thing
True name - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
As for importance, if its damaging to demons and might be interesting for us why should we not have a peek
It might be a dead end in humans, but for all we know we could replicate the true name staves.
Its got a true appearance thing going on I fear.
We dunno.
Maybe.
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Jane MIGHT have killed it. It was listed as one of the leading possibilities. Even if we merely crippled it for a time, Tweety Bird is going to have to plan even more desperately than usual for a good few centuries.
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Ridcully probably could, but Tzeentch and anything related to him is at the top of the list of Things He Wants To Avoid.
I expect any bonuses to be minor at best. We have better things to do.As for importance, if its damaging to demons and might be interesting for us why should we not have a peek
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Gah, I forgot about that.
Oh well, maybe "True Appearance" is something we can study too.
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Replicating true name staves and being able to get the true names of demons quicker doesn't seem minor to me.
I'd also not dismiss it out of hand, we've got lore to make!
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They didn't send all their Angyl forces to attack, they still have 10 5th circle Archangyls, 71 Seraphims (though that's quickly shrinking due to Border lions, they already killed 29 assuming no new ones were summoned), 563 Cherubim bands and 1332 Angyl bands left.
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Yeah, but the Lions didn't turn up until the third did, presumably passing threshold 1 of Avernus's response.
Whether they've retreated now the trigger's gone I dunno?
+ the lions never attacked the Angyels directly, they've focused on champions and the like.