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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Godzillaslayer10 said:
What two forges are we missing? What can they do?
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We're missing the two levels of forge above cathedral, which will increase our AM EM and RM output by several degrees (for instance putting down the first Forge Cathedral increased ALL EM output by 50% in addition to the amount the cathedral itself created).

They're also really important to the admech as they symbolise a world as being full forgey.
 
Alex pears said:
We step into inknown waters.
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Though I swim through the sea of darkness, I shall fear no creature, for I have a giant cybernetic kraken and a Siren non-aggression pact!
Do not ask about Weapons, Guardians, world spanning snakes or big green Krorks with teef.

Looking way into the future here…
Eventually we are going to encounter the Eldar and hopefully relations will be peaceful. Would we want soul stone and Wraith-guard/lord technology? Dreadnaughts are all well and good but even for space marines there is only a very thin line between 'too injured to heal' and 'outright dead'. We have several paragons and having a way to preserve at least some of their ability after death would be very valuable.
 
Angelform said:
Looking way into the future here…
Eventually we are going to encounter the Eldar and hopefully relations will be peaceful. Would we want soul stone and Wraith-guard/lord technology? Dreadnaughts are all well and good but even for space marines there is only a very thin line between 'too injured to heal' and 'outright dead'. We have several paragons and having a way to preserve at least some of their ability after death would be very valuable.
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Forget it...

Blunt, but still, the Eldar are about as likely to hand over any of their tech as the Necrons if not more so, especially since all of it relies on Wraith bone and with Yneed around and the connection severed I don't even know what the Eldar will be doing with their soul stones now, and even then those things are kinda designed for Eldar. Humans have been able to use them... once, but it wasn't a very good fit.

We get things out of the Sirens because we have things to trade and they respect us, the Eldar don't. Not unless we get really really lucky.
 
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Angelform said:
Though I swim through the sea of darkness, I shall fear no creature, for I have a giant cybernetic kraken and a Siren non-aggression pact!
Do not ask about Weapons, Guardians, world spanning snakes or big green Krorks with teef.

Looking way into the future here…
Eventually we are going to encounter the Eldar and hopefully relations will be peaceful. Would we want soul stone and Wraith-guard/lord technology? Dreadnaughts are all well and good but even for space marines there is only a very thin line between 'too injured to heal' and 'outright dead'. We have several paragons and having a way to preserve at least some of their ability after death would be very valuable.
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Eldar tech is about as advanced as necron tech. Not quite the "monkey presented with a nuclear reactor" of the Black Crystal Relics, but certainly "monkey presented with a steam engine'
 
DragonParadox said:
Eldar tech is about as advanced as necron tech. Not quite the "monkey presented with a nuclear reactor" of the Black Crystal Relics, but certainly "monkey presented with a steam engine'
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Pretty sure we could figure out stuff that the Imperium couldn't (we know about frequencies and song weaving so with enough study we might be able to figure out Wraithbone though not make it ourselves for the future)

It was actually why I was almost disappointed to learn the defences destroyed Death's Harbinger, there were Eldar ships in it which we could have taken some Wraith Bone shards from.

No dice from the wreckage I fear though, probably had a weapon designed to target psycic materials.
 
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What I am hoping for most is that the eldar or necrons can take a ship with them and he'll warn the larger human empires that are not chaos related .
 
Alex pears said:
We're missing the two levels of forge above cathedral, which will increase our AM EM and RM output by several degrees (for instance putting down the first Forge Cathedral increased ALL EM output by 50% in addition to the amount the cathedral itself created).

They're also really important to the admech as they symbolise a world as being full forgey.
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Ooh, I want. What are they called?
vsh said:
They got rekt by Dark Mechanicum.
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Speaking of the Dark Mechanicum, could we afford Ridcully to divine where they are in position to us. Because we're about to reveal a lot of our shinies. I'd rather not expose our DAOT tech to scrap code.
 
Godzillaslayer10 said:
Ooh, I want. What are they called?
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Who knows, forge palace, forge basilica?

I dunno.

Godzillaslayer10 said:
Speaking of the Dark Mechanicum, could we afford Ridcully to divine where they are in position to us. Because we're about to reveal a lot of our shinies. I'd rather not expose our DAOT tech to scrap code.
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Dark mech can go pretty much anywhere what ever domains they have near us is unknown.

Divining Atlas to see if it has been occupied should be done at some point.
 
Hmm, something's been bothering me for a while. What direction does the quest go when Gork and Mork wake up? I know that there will be an initial surge of super orks coming down on us, but once we survive that will they just be another threat to be faced? Gork and Mork waking up, and super-charging the Ork race is making me question if we would've seen this happen with the Eldar had Ynnead not flubbed her rolls. Would we have seen a resurgent-united Eldar empire that was going to wreck the stars?

Then I'm curious about the Warp metaphysics. As the number of Gods in the warp increases does their power go down?
 
Godzillaslayer10 said:
Hmm, something's been bothering me for a while. What direction does the quest go when Gork and Mork wake up? I know that there will be an initial surge of super orks coming down on us, but once we survive that will they just be another threat to be faced? Gork and Mork waking up, and super-charging the Ork race is making me question if we would've seen this happen with the Eldar had Ynnead not flubbed her rolls. Would we have seen a resurgent-united Eldar empire that was going to wreck the stars?
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Who knows.

I certainly didn't expect the orks would be our new big threat, I thought that would be the Dark Mech or an Abomination crusade to kill Lin.

Plenty of ways to go after this.

Godzillaslayer10 said:
Then I'm curious about the Warp metaphysics. As the number of Gods in the warp increases does their power go down?
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Unlikely, the warp is infinite after all.
 
Depending on how the ork gods waking up goes the chaos gods could be severally weakened. Worship and sacrifice power chaos, if there are less chaos worshippers than chaos will be less powerful. These will be interesting to see.
 
oilworker said:
Depending on how the ork gods waking up goes the chaos gods could be severally weakened. Worship and sacrifice power chaos, if there are less chaos worshippers than chaos will be less powerful. These will be interesting to see.
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Twitches.

Sorry, but chaos is not powered by worship or sacrifice they are just more efficient, emotion powers chaos (Khorne anger ect), its why they're impossible to kill.
 
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Alex pears said:
Twitches.

Sorry, but chaos is not powered by worship or sacrifice they are just more efficient, emotion powers chaos (Khorne anger ect), its why they're impossible to kill.
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Well, if Orks overrun everything it would still work against Chaos.
Wiping out Cultists is not enough, but killing most of humanity and keeping the rest enslaved on Ork-controlled planets where the Whaagh-field is stronger than any other warp-influence would work.
 
Godzillaslayer10 said:
Hmm, something's been bothering me for a while. What direction does the quest go when Gork and Mork wake up? I know that there will be an initial surge of super orks coming down on us, but once we survive that will they just be another threat to be faced? Gork and Mork waking up, and super-charging the Ork race is making me question if we would've seen this happen with the Eldar had Ynnead not flubbed her rolls. Would we have seen a resurgent-united Eldar empire that was going to wreck the stars?
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Durin has stated that all the major factions will end up getting a major boost. The Eldar have already been boosted due to Ynnead. The Orks are about to get boosted. Various human polities are advancing, such as the Imperial Trust getting a bunch of archeotech, Ultramar reverse engineering Tau tech, and likely various other groups slowly but surely making progress.

The Necrons may not end up boosted, but they will certainly start pulling out some of their top end tech like they are against the Tyranids.

The Tyranids may just be more numerous, or with the main group coming the hive mind might be stronger.

The Dark Eldar will probably fall to Chaos and start using daemons to enhance their tech.

For normal human Chaos, probably some degree of tech advance and Durin only knows what else. Maybe the Chaos Gods will start handing out more shiny stuff?
 
Enjou said:
For normal human Chaos, probably some degree of tech advance and Durin only knows what else. Maybe the Chaos Gods will start handing out more shiny stuff?
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If we count the big, shiny guy as part of Chaos they did already get a large boost.
A good portion of the Imperium under control of a Chaosgod and all of them more disciplined and less backstabby than the other god's servants.
 
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You know I just realized we missed a opportunity to clone geenseed, or get the opportunity to study geenseed. Seriously a novice space marine is still a space marine.
 
oilworker said:
You know I just realized we missed a opportunity to clone geenseed, or get the opportunity to study geenseed. Seriously a novice space marine is still a space marine.
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Eh?

I'm not sure what you mean by this, the Vangrian's spent the first few years cloning geneseed and studying gene seed is really bloody complicated and often doesn't go anywhere, just ask the Blood Angels, Space Wolves ect. for more details
 
Alex pears said:
Eh?

I'm not sure what you mean by this, the Vangrian's spent the first few years cloning geneseed and studying gene seed is really bloody complicated and often doesn't go anywhere, just ask the Blood Angels, Space Wolves ect. for more details
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Geenseed can be put into test slaves. These is were you find a human and put them in a vat, than put them through the process of becoming a space marine. The only thing is that the person usually dies because the process is accelerated. About 5 years. So at the end you get 2 sets of geenseed.

On top of that we have a high level Magos who has experience study the unusual cretes of Avernusz
 
oilworker said:
Geenseed can be put into test slaves. These is were you find a human and put them in a vat, than put them through the process of becoming a space marine. The only thing is that the person usually dies because the process is accelerated. About 5 years. So at the end you get 2 sets of geenseed.

On top of that we have a high level Magos who has experience study the unusual cretes of Avernusz
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I know what test slave cultivation I just told you we did it for several years.

Alex pears said:
the Vangrian's spent the first few years cloning geneseed
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Well more like decades.

And my point still stands the Astartes are bloody complicated even by the standards of Avernus animals. A seamless blend of enhanced biology and psycic resonance rather than any one specific ability or even several.

We're going to be doing research later when we try to figure out how to cultivate and implant the Grey Knight's geneseed so wait for that.
 
Idea for an omake.

A war documentary of the Danaam Crusade where the film crew goes over the key figures in the big brass like Shwartz, Richards, Syr, and whoever the overall leader of the war was. From what I can connect with my personel assumptions and RTK roles is that Swartz and Richards were the Strategists that gave advice to Marshal Olaf (I really can't remember the guys name) and Syr being the big play-maker on the ground as she oversaw the details of attacks while also motivating troops whereever she went. Thoughts and tips are appreaciated.
 
Wasn't it Lord Marshal Sigurd who we had to convince? I remember some kind of Marshall being mentioned but this is by distant memory. Was Freyr really the one in charge of the invasion?
 
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