- Location
- Asia
I still don't know how I feel about these Chad Marines.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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I still don't know how I feel about these Chad Marines.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Well last we knew a few centuries ago Abaddon still hadn't got his way through the Cadia gate
... he probably has now.
So I'd say Gathering Storm isn't canon and if the Primaris marines are canon, then they're probably all Abomination controlled as they were on Terra or something.
He'll probably take ideas? maybe.
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@Durin
A few questions:
1: There are two Power Armor Heavy Infantry options in the listed actions. Is one of those supposed to be Light Infantry?
2: Do any of the various unit types want Power Armor upgraded with Stealth? For example, the Light Infantry wanting the Recon armor refitted with stealth? Or the Scout stealth being improved?
2b: If so would it be better to get the Stealth variation done before equipping that specific unit type with Power Armor?
3: For founding the Psyker Orders is there any benefit to having a specific Heroic Psyker found something within their specialty? For example, will a Divination Psyker Order organized by Xavier fuction just as well as one organized by Ridcully?
4: When doing Trade Talks with the Sirens, do we need to specify the animal we are attempting to trade with?
I thought we had to specify, but @Angelform seems convinced that we can just do this:
Is that acceptable, or do we need to do something like this:
Sirens Trade (Thunderbeasts)
5: I assume that establishing a Basic Spy Network on Byzantium is also an available Arbites action?
6: If we Spend Time with Marshal Khol, is there a chance of improving her diplomacy?
A few questions:
1: There are two Power Armor Heavy Infantry options in the listed actions. Is one of those supposed to be Light Infantry?
2: Do any of the various unit types want Power Armor upgraded with Stealth? For example, the Light Infantry wanting the Recon armor refitted with stealth? Or the Scout stealth being improved?
2b: If so would it be better to get the Stealth variation done before equipping that specific unit type with Power Armor?
3: For founding the Psyker Orders is there any benefit to having a specific Heroic Psyker found something within their specialty? For example, will a Divination Psyker Order organized by Xavier fuction just as well as one organized by Ridcully?
4: When doing Trade Talks with the Sirens, do we need to specify the animal we are attempting to trade with?
I thought we had to specify, but @Angelform seems convinced that we can just do this:
Is that acceptable, or do we need to do something like this:
Sirens Trade (Thunderbeasts)
5: I assume that establishing a Basic Spy Network on Byzantium is also an available Arbites action?
6: If we Spend Time with Marshal Khol, is there a chance of improving her diplomacy?
- Location
- Northern Ireland, UK
Please.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
in Embers it is not canon, I may draw some ideas from it but those vents did not happen and anything introduced may or may not exist
- Location
- Leeds
Schrodingers Canon?
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
1. no, one is upgrading your infantry, one is upgrading your heavy infantry
2. Recon could be improved but the upgraded stealth is still far to expensive to put on Scout
2b. no, stalth is currently to expensive for Helltroopers, Helguard yes bit not Helltroopers
3. a boost to initial strength
4. a bit more info would be better, though not a lot
5. yes
6. yes
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
more assume it is not canon until told otherwise
- Location
- Leeds
This just got answered, the names of the options could be more clear however the first of those is affecting our existing heavy infantry and the second is all the Helltroopers.
It is mentioned in the description and the costs are different. However there might be an error in the reward of the second as it says
Rather than just Infantry Regiments are being upgraded.
E: Never mind I see you've already done it.
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Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Yeesh.
And then we took the option to upgrade the cities.
Actually there are two Heavy Infantry and one Infantry. However, looking closer you can see that the reward for Infantry is listed under the second Heavy Infantry matches the Infantry reward, though confusingly both still reference Heavy Infantry. Meanwhile the description of Infantry and the second Heavy Infantry reference only Infantry.
Looks like a copy and paste error, where durin copied the Heavy Infantry several times, and then edited them, but mistakenly edited different portions off different copies when switching back and forth while editing. That's a pretty typical error, I've done it before too.
- Location
- Leeds
Okay I see. One is Mechanised infantry it also seems to be fixed.
Not sure what you are asking for. The action is just to see if they value what we are offering enough for a trade to be possible, so we can't set a price. The nitty-gritty details of capture/confinement/transport etc are generally not defined by us. So… just wording?
Diplomacy
Sirens Trade (Offer all Avernus creatures in the 'animals' category that we can capture)
@Durin
1 This work, or am I still missing something?
Anyone remember if we gave the Phase-Tigers (the unit) power armour yet? If so I think we should give them the stealth variant as soon as convenient.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
yes that is fine
also the Catachan 813th has been equipped with Recon Armour
Didn't have time to come up with a preliminary plan before, but here's what I've got thus far.
I'll note that this is VERY heavy on AM costs due to all the Power Armor actions, so someone may want to calculate that to see if we can afford to do all of those immediately.
For Diplomacy, I think we may want to do a preliminary check with the Sirens to see if they'd be interested in trading Psyker power knowledge of other Avernite creatures that we've learned in exchange for their knowledge, and then Sound Out the rest of the Trust to see if they'd be cool with that trade. Specifically we're interested in the Sirens' warding schemes, and we really need to get the ball rolling on this while Saint Lin is still alive to verify that the warding isn't corrupted by Chaos (as that will lower resistance to the idea).
Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Helltrooper Power Infantry: Infantry
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Helltrooper Power Infantry: Heavy Infantry
SLOT C - Year 5
-Y5: Helguard Jetbikes
Void Command
SLOT A - Year 4
-Y4: Construct: Stealth warships
Administratum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Expand (Alexandria) to Small Hive
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Upgrade Defences: Small Hive <need a hive to do>
Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1:
-Y2: Expand Embassies
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 2
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1:
Arbites
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Psyker Hunting
-Y4: Elite Psyker Hunters
SLOT B - Year 5
-Y5: Elite Operatives: Lessons Learned
AdMech
SLOT A - Year 2 (Explorator)
-Y2: Advanced Astartes Power Armour: Ace
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
-Y5: Add Stealth Technology (Elite)
SLOT B - Year 2 (Biologis)
-Y2:
SLOT C - Year 1 (Free)
-Y1: Expand and Upgrade: Dorthonion, Silver Lake
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 1
Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: Negotiations with Dragons Nest
Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Research: Destructive Frequencies
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y3: Divination (Chaos Psykers pulled into Warp Rifts)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
-Y5: Divination: Attacks
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
SLOT B - Year 2 (Xavier)
-Y2: Advanced Wards: Fólkvangr
SLOT C - Year 1 (Tamia)
-Y1: Research: Destructive Frequencies
-Y3: Mentoring: Beta
-Y4: Research: Power Melody Composition
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Retraining
-Y4:
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Helltrooper Power Mechanised Infantry: Mechanised Infantry
SLOT C - Year 1
-Y1: Chain of Command
-Y2: Spend Time With (Syr)
-Y3: Knowing Avernus (QM's Choice)
-Y4:
-Y5:
SLOT D - Year 4
-Y4: Thaddeus Expertise: Upgrade Defences: <cities go here>
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Helltrooper Power Infantry: Infantry
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Helltrooper Power Infantry: Heavy Infantry
SLOT C - Year 5
-Y5: Helguard Jetbikes
Void Command
SLOT A - Year 4
-Y4: Construct: Stealth warships
Administratum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Expand (Alexandria) to Small Hive
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Upgrade Defences: Small Hive <need a hive to do>
Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1:
-Y2: Expand Embassies
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 2
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1:
Arbites
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Psyker Hunting
-Y4: Elite Psyker Hunters
SLOT B - Year 5
-Y5: Elite Operatives: Lessons Learned
AdMech
SLOT A - Year 2 (Explorator)
-Y2: Advanced Astartes Power Armour: Ace
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
-Y5: Add Stealth Technology (Elite)
SLOT B - Year 2 (Biologis)
-Y2:
SLOT C - Year 1 (Free)
-Y1: Expand and Upgrade: Dorthonion, Silver Lake
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 1
Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: Negotiations with Dragons Nest
Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Research: Destructive Frequencies
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y3: Divination (Chaos Psykers pulled into Warp Rifts)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
-Y5: Divination: Attacks
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
SLOT B - Year 2 (Xavier)
-Y2: Advanced Wards: Fólkvangr
SLOT C - Year 1 (Tamia)
-Y1: Research: Destructive Frequencies
-Y3: Mentoring: Beta
-Y4: Research: Power Melody Composition
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Retraining
-Y4:
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Helltrooper Power Mechanised Infantry: Mechanised Infantry
SLOT C - Year 1
-Y1: Chain of Command
-Y2: Spend Time With (Syr)
-Y3: Knowing Avernus (QM's Choice)
-Y4:
-Y5:
SLOT D - Year 4
-Y4: Thaddeus Expertise: Upgrade Defences: <cities go here>
I'll note that this is VERY heavy on AM costs due to all the Power Armor actions, so someone may want to calculate that to see if we can afford to do all of those immediately.
For Diplomacy, I think we may want to do a preliminary check with the Sirens to see if they'd be interested in trading Psyker power knowledge of other Avernite creatures that we've learned in exchange for their knowledge, and then Sound Out the rest of the Trust to see if they'd be cool with that trade. Specifically we're interested in the Sirens' warding schemes, and we really need to get the ball rolling on this while Saint Lin is still alive to verify that the warding isn't corrupted by Chaos (as that will lower resistance to the idea).
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
- Location
- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
Imagine your standard Avernite Helltrooper.
OK. Now imagine your standard Avernite Helltrooper except harder to kill, with actual mechanically assisted super-strength and speed, readier access to tactical gear, and built-in life support.
It's about like that.
We can spend time with her much as we can with governors of other planets - it'll involve some travel and probably coordinating vacation times, and will be less time than it normally would, but it should be doable.
I do think we should spend some time with Jane, given that she's looking to adopt.
I think we might want to use divination on the Big Threat. IIRC Durin said we could try to have Ridcully divine that.