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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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We already have.
- Location
- United States
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Already done, makes us tougher.
For those who missed it I made a long post thinking about the threat in fifty years, and what we should prioritize to prepare for it:
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664
It's quite extensive, if people would please look at it I think will significantly help in planning this turn and future turns.
On military options I'm inclined towards these three: (Remember that AM maintenance is a thing, these Power Armor options are each costing about 10% of our after trade income in AM).
The Land Raiders can actually be ready for the Ork campaign in five years. Might also want to put a Readiness training in there somewhere.
Leaning towards adding a Stealth sub-specialization.
This would be the Void Construction action I'd like to do. We can afford to Expedite it, and so have all these ships ready for combat at the start of the Ork campaign.
I wish we had a map of Duat... it would help visualize the relationship of the cities.
Not too worried about the Thrones, we can always ask for more from Midgard.
So this should be one of our admin actions. Expensive, but doable.
Spend the other actions on these.
We need to figure out if there are any diplomatic actions that we want to focus on before doing this. For example, should we spend some more effort on trade with the Sirens?
One of the options discussed here: https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664 was the idea of seeing if Nilfheim would help settle Het. Crafting a Sound Out on that is probably useful.
Another diplomatic action needed for Trade Talks.
So we should do this action.
We should also establish our Basic Spy Network on Byzantium
We might want to do this before outfitting our Light Infantry with Power Armor.
I have a very detailed analysis of the Mechanicus options, priorities , and order decisions here:
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664
There are a couple new options though:
This is probably something we want to do eventually, however, looking at the chances this is unlikely to succeed in less than five attempts (I don't think we can use Cheating on it) so that means it would take on average 50 years to succeed. Not something we should do right now when there are other more likely to succeed actions possible.
Good to do, but we will want to wait another 20 years for the Young Trait to disappear.
As I pointed out in my long post:
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664
We need to decide this turn if we are going to try and get these or not.
I believe we wanted Complete Examination of the Sphinxes?
So we can afford to spend most of our actions here I think. Though maybe one or two Those in the Shadows.
Hmmm... do we do Divination on the Warp Rifts, or on the mysterious danger? Leaning towards warp rifts as more urgent.
We need to ask Durin if there are any benefits to having a specialist found the different orders (for example, Ridcully founding the Order of Divination).
Well... there is the warp rifts issue. And we could also try directly divining the threat.
Escorts would be better to do first I think. Get those done, then the Descent Destroyers, and then the Stealth ships.
Please look at the post I made here talking about all the Mechanicus options (particularly the Fabricator ones):
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664
If anything we ought to spend some time with Khol trying to raise her diplomacy.
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Could you maybe specify what animals you want to try and trade? I'm pretty sure durin will not allow just "animals" though I suppose you could ask him.
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664
It's quite extensive, if people would please look at it I think will significantly help in planning this turn and future turns.
On military options I'm inclined towards these three: (Remember that AM maintenance is a thing, these Power Armor options are each costing about 10% of our after trade income in AM).
The Land Raiders can actually be ready for the Ork campaign in five years. Might also want to put a Readiness training in there somewhere.
Leaning towards adding a Stealth sub-specialization.
This would be the Void Construction action I'd like to do. We can afford to Expedite it, and so have all these ships ready for combat at the start of the Ork campaign.
I wish we had a map of Duat... it would help visualize the relationship of the cities.
Not too worried about the Thrones, we can always ask for more from Midgard.
So this should be one of our admin actions. Expensive, but doable.
Spend the other actions on these.
We need to figure out if there are any diplomatic actions that we want to focus on before doing this. For example, should we spend some more effort on trade with the Sirens?
One of the options discussed here: https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664 was the idea of seeing if Nilfheim would help settle Het. Crafting a Sound Out on that is probably useful.
Another diplomatic action needed for Trade Talks.
So we should do this action.
We should also establish our Basic Spy Network on Byzantium
We might want to do this before outfitting our Light Infantry with Power Armor.
I have a very detailed analysis of the Mechanicus options, priorities , and order decisions here:
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664
There are a couple new options though:
This is probably something we want to do eventually, however, looking at the chances this is unlikely to succeed in less than five attempts (I don't think we can use Cheating on it) so that means it would take on average 50 years to succeed. Not something we should do right now when there are other more likely to succeed actions possible.
Good to do, but we will want to wait another 20 years for the Young Trait to disappear.
As I pointed out in my long post:
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664
We need to decide this turn if we are going to try and get these or not.
I believe we wanted Complete Examination of the Sphinxes?
So we can afford to spend most of our actions here I think. Though maybe one or two Those in the Shadows.
Hmmm... do we do Divination on the Warp Rifts, or on the mysterious danger? Leaning towards warp rifts as more urgent.
We need to ask Durin if there are any benefits to having a specialist found the different orders (for example, Ridcully founding the Order of Divination).
Well... there is the warp rifts issue. And we could also try directly divining the threat.
Escorts would be better to do first I think. Get those done, then the Descent Destroyers, and then the Stealth ships.
Please look at the post I made here talking about all the Mechanicus options (particularly the Fabricator ones):
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...vernor-quest-43k.10642/page-2730#post-8719664
If anything we ought to spend some time with Khol trying to raise her diplomacy.
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Could you maybe specify what animals you want to try and trade? I'm pretty sure durin will not allow just "animals" though I suppose you could ask him.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
I'm leaning towards yes, partially because they're powerful, but I also want some attention off Tranth.
I think @Durin mentioned somewhere that we should be trying big expensive/exotic/intelligent animals (i.e Tyrant Lizard Alphas), but not to even think about Guardians/Weapons.
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- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
@Durin
1. Are the improved stealth backpacks only compatible with Astartes Elite Armour, or do they work with regular Elite armor as well?
2. Could Tranth improve Scout armor? It's not advanced but since stealth is the main feature of it so it should be conductive to improvements.
- Location
- Asia
We should investigate those Chaos psykers that go missing every turn.
HanEmpire
Delicious
I'd say the one with the lower AM cost is the Light Infantry option.
By the Sirens' classification system (see under 'Wildlife of Avernus – From Sirens) there are five types of creatures on Avernus: Great Ones, Guardians, Weapons, People and Animals. I see no advantage in specifying particular creatures within the animals category when we can just offer them all at once.
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- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
Actually the cost per regiment is the same, it just one is 240 regiments while other is 419.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
For light regiments as well we're probably going to give them Scout armour, which is probably (maybe) cheaper than basic power armour.
- Location
- Northern Ireland, UK
I just updated my table of cities;
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- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
Shouldn't Iota Six and Iota Seven be at level 7? I'm pretty sure all new cities we build are at our current target defence level. Them aside, only non-forge major cities we are yet to upgrade are Asmat, Limberlost, Okefenokee and Nurn, so it's only 1 action, which is nice.
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- Location
- Northern Ireland, UK
Honestly, I don't know. I just put them as Level 6 as the rest of Iota was.
@Durin
1) Due to Iota 6 & 7 (Ain al-Asil & Waset) just being made in the last 2 turns, are they Level 6 or 7?
2) What are the names of the other Cities in Iota?
3) When the Psyker Cities were being upgraded, were they made Level 7 or 8? I ask as they were counted as being Level 7 during the Garkill invasion and we upgraded them after.
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Shit like this makes me want to kill the whole bunch of Conservatives.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Only a little longer mon ami.
Only a little longer.
And when that day comes Tranth now has a combined +20 to all actions improving our current technology
.Actually now that I think about it I'm not sure what his paragon trait would be?
While pointless to guess he's so versatile its hard to imagine.
Well I figure Titans and reactors are where we will blow our unrest budget. Which to be fair is more important, even more important than invisible tanks.Only a little longer mon ami.
Only a little longer.
And when that day comes Tranth now has a combined +20 to all actions improving our current technology
Actually now that I think about it I'm not sure what his paragon trait would be?
While pointless to guess he's so versatile its hard to imagine.
/cry
Nianque
Verified Dragon
I think we can skip the unstable reactor thing it seems like we'll get the same result from being able to alter the size of the ones from the Well of Urd. So that's really only 2 actions that cause unrest.
- Location
- Berkeley
For the unstable reactor our replacement option would be the hyper plasma reactor from the weird ass command battleship (not the Well of Urd). The issue is that the thing is super unstable with a limited projected lifespan and will do catastrophic damage if it goes critical. Good for military systems that need every single watt of power they can get, but the trade-offs seem like they work out so that it's doing the equivalent of selling two points in stability and one in cost for one point in power.
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
Where did Durinnsaud that?
