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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%

  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%
  • Total voters
    738
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Vlad said:
When can we build our own production facilities for those materials instead of relying completely on the Adeptus Mechanicus?
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One word.

Space.

On Avernus we have a tiny space to build things, where as on other worlds they can spread things out more.

Other reasons include the fact that Asgard probably uses less on maintenance due to not having things constantly blown up and a single knight being cheaper than 10,000 nutron rifles, land speeders ect.

Oh and Asguard has a tiny Navy and one one small ship yard.
 
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Alex pears said:
One word.

Space.

On Avernus we have a tiny space to build things, where as on other worlds they can spread things out more.

Other reasons include the fact that Asgard probably uses less on maintenance due to not having things constantly blown up and a single knight being cheaper than 10,000 nutron rifles.
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I didn't look at cost or net income, but production.

As for space we have built new Mechanicus Hives away from Avernus.

Be thankful I am not comparing it to Muspleheim.

The Mechanicus is most likely just still dragging their feet and not being efficient in their means of production. You can give all them STC bonuses, but they still have the baggage of thousands of years of cultural inflexibility and that is not easily brushed away.
 
[X] Invite Olaf so you can talk about the current situation between your two worlds. (If possible make it look like he was the one who suggested it.)


I again assert that the Vanaheim debt is something that we can only spend once, and that its value as a diplomatic tool is far greater than its value in resources (even given the enormity of its value in resources).

Basically, our relationship with Olaf is something that will not come again if we lose it, and the best way to keep him in place and happy is to fix our Vanaheim PR issues right now.

There are times that call for big stick solutions. This is one of them.
 
Sirrocco said:
[X] Invite Olaf so you can talk about the current situation between your two worlds. (If possible make it look like he was the one who suggested it.)


I again assert that the Vanaheim debt is something that we can only spend once, and that its value as a diplomatic tool is far greater than its value in resources (even given the enormity of its value in resources).

Basically, our relationship with Olaf is something that will not come again if we lose it, and the best way to keep him in place and happy is to fix our Vanaheim PR issues right now.

There are times that call for big stick solutions. This is one of them.
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You.

Yes, you.

Don't do politics.

Ever.

You are very bad at it.
 
Vlad said:
The Mechanicus is most likely just still dragging their feet and not being efficient in their means of production. You can give all them STC bonuses, but they still have the baggage of thousands of years of cultural inflexibility and that is not easily brushed away.
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Of which we have 6... I think, and have upgraded 2 and only one of them is doing full AM production.

Vlad said:
Be thankful I am not comparing it to Muspleheim.
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They're BS they don't count.

@durin
1. What level of Forge would usually be built on a none admech world.
2. Vlad does have a point, but for all that the admech are dumb, they're not... well dumb dumb. Is the reason our stuff is so ineffective despite bonus's and larger stuff that it is meant to be part of a larger Forge World system, with the largest forges meant to maximise production.

Sirrocco said:
[X] Invite Olaf so you can talk about the current situation between your two worlds. (If possible make it look like he was the one who suggested it.)


I again assert that the Vanaheim debt is something that we can only spend once, and that its value as a diplomatic tool is far greater than its value in resources (even given the enormity of its value in resources).

Basically, our relationship with Olaf is something that will not come again if we lose it, and the best way to keep him in place and happy is to fix our Vanaheim PR issues right now.

There are times that call for big stick solutions. This is one of them.
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I'm with Vlad here.

Bad idea, at most we're forgiving 20%
 
Are we.. the only planet producing Relic Material?

Whatever we can make with that must be something BS.
 
Alex pears said:
Of which we have 6... I think, and have upgraded 2 and only one of them is doing full AM production.


They're BS they don't count.

@durin
1. What level of Forge would usually be built on a none admech world.
2. Vlad does have a point, but for all that the admech are dumb, they're not... well dumb dumb. Is the reason our stuff is so ineffective despite bonus's and larger stuff that it is meant to be part of a larger Forge World system, with the largest forges meant to maximise production.


I'm with Vlad here.

Bad idea, at most we're forgiving 20%
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1. multiple Cathedral level and some of the level above it
2. the reason that they are ineffective for Em is that they are designed to be able to make relic material which is expensive

super exitis rifles, Votes Grenades ans similar require RM
 
@durin how soon could using Saint Lin to try and change the opinions on the Quartok be an option?

Since trying to do it sneakily will be a bit chancy for the next few turns.
 
[X] Invite Surt and Olaf.

Surt there to both get closer to his secrets and to help us out with Olaf. Olaf so we can find out how to help him sure up his position.
 
CharlBaal said:
@durin how soon could using Saint Lin to try and change the opinions on the Quartok be an option?

Since trying to do it sneakily will be a bit chancy for the next few turns.
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He's uber nutural on the subject, remember he doesn't want the church to be a major power in the way the Echlesarchy was, nor does he want to start a situation where people feel they have to be nice to Xenos when we are going to have to be ****s to some, like Orks.

There's also the fact that Lin doesn't work for us, he just listens to our suggestions.
 
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Alex pears said:
He's uber nutural on the subject, remember he doesn't want the church to be a major power in the way the Echlesarchy was, nor does he want to start a situation where people feel they have to be nice to Xenos when we are going to have to be ****s to some, like Orks.

There's also the fact that Lin doesn't work for us, he just listens to our suggestions.
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They only have to be slightly nicer or less openly hateful to Xenos that know their place below Humanity or just stay in their corner and don't bother us.
 
CharlBaal said:
Well more baby steps helped along by Lin and trying to give Durin another action choice for Lin since its options do seem a bit limited after the big reformation one is done.
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Post big reformation its probably going to be more rituals and improving things. Long term stuff.

That reminds me for when @durin gets back.

Boyz I think I may have a solution to our Saint issue.
 
Shard said:
[X] Invite Surt and Olaf.
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Awful idea. There is nothing we wan't to discuss with both of them at the same time and making one of them wait behind the door while discussing important stuff with the other would be an apex of rudeness and political suicide.

Because Olaf stuff is much more urgent:

[X] Invite Olaf so you can talk about the current situation between your two worlds. (If possible make it look like he was the one who suggested it.)
 
Dawiusz said:
Awful idea. There is nothing we wan't to discuss with both of them at the same time and making one of them wait behind the door while discussing important stuff with the other would be an apex of rudeness and political suicide.
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Actually there is a plan that concerns's both of them.

Even then we're not dumb enough to do that, it would be have meeting with Surt, then have meeting with Olaf, not keep one waiting.
 
[X] Invite Olaf so you can talk about the current situation between your two worlds.

I want to give Olaf our full attention here; not split it with Surt or anyone else. (I don't see the need for playing games about "look who invited who" though. We're all planetary governors here and there are no press to be playing to.)

By the way, @durin the populations in the description blocks for the Trust worlds have not been updated. They are all much less than the populations in the statistics blocks.
 
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[X] Invite Olaf so you can talk about the current situation between your two worlds.
 
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