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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
they say they have an STC, you are not sure that you believe them but are willing to not ask questions
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
Vanaheim, Midgard and Jotunheim
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
Which got caught by Jane, and which were discovered after the wildlife did the thing?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Most are probably in the orbital university.
- Location
- Leeds
I am really tempted to throw the fact that Vanaheim tried to spy on us back in their face.
- Location
- Philippines
Why, it would only piss them off more we did not just try to spy on them we were actively trying to shove our beliefs down there people's throats
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ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
On a normal world, I'd agree they are safe there. However, Avernus.
Well to be fair their people are idiots and needed a bit of force-feeding. Alas it did not work.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
As it turns out, changing cultures is hard as balls. Whoda thunk it?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
No @durin has said that the only real spy net works on Avernus are ours, the Inquisition's, which Ultan has to stop Jane from dismantling, and a few spys posing as teachers in the Orbital universties. As the main stuff we care about in space is admech stuff and our ship yards around a different planets moon I'd say they're not in a position to do anything... heck can they even get any real info on what we do on the surface.
But, yes due to a combination of how good our network is and wildlife I think we're going to be the most impenetrable of the Trust.
- Location
- Australia
The spying that they're doing is tolerable, acceptable even. So far they've kept it to the low-key level of spying common between allies, used to get rumour mill-style information rather than for anything malicious. Calling them out on it would be a diplomatic faux pas.
- Location
- Germany
Shouldn't it be priority to get our spys back?
I mean sure, they fucked up, but they are still Avernians and we wont leave them in some foreign prison.
I mean sure, they fucked up, but they are still Avernians and we wont leave them in some foreign prison.
- Location
- Australia
Let Jane handle that. She knows what's best when it comes to espionage, including what happens to burned spies.
- Location
- Germany
I thought trying it the diplomatic way, not per intrigue.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Besides a lot of them are actually Vanir apparently.
- Location
- Germany
Yeah, the Vanir who sold out their own planet to work with people from other planets obviously fall under Vanaheims judgement, but some of our own people were caught too, or did I read that wrong?
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Nope your right there.
- Location
- Leeds
These are reasons that I'm tempted and not writing a plan to do so. I can distinguish between a cathartic decision and a good one.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Eh, @Enjou wins by a landslide again.
To be fair though he just put down what everyone was saying anyway this time.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
[X] Support Muspelheim's proposal
[X] Counter-Proposal to Vanaheim: Planetary system governments must pay damages, either monetary or in-kind, for any diseases or invasive species that leaves that planetary system and spreads to another within the Trust. Payment will be decided in the usual way for a dispute between two systems(5 randomly selected high judges not from those two systems. In the scenario that one planet affects more than one other planet, each planet is decided as a separate case for the purpose of finding judges not connected to the case.)
No. of votes: 3
DragonParadox, daemonkeeper, Reader of all
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
[X] Abstain from Muspelheim's proposal
[X] Counter-Proposal to Vanaheim: Planetary system governments must pay damages, either monetary or in-kind, for any diseases or invasive species that leaves that planetary system and spreads to another within the Trust. Payment will be decided in the usual way for a dispute between two systems(5 randomly selected high judges not from those two systems. In the scenario that one planet affects more than one other planet, each planet is decided as a separate case for the purpose of finding judges not connected to the case.)
No. of votes: 1
Dark Ness
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
[X] Support Muspelheim's proposal
[X] Counter-Proposal to Vanaheim: Planetary system governments must pay damages, either monetary or in-kind, for any diseases or invasive species that leaves that planetary system and spreads to another within the Trust. Payment will be decided in the usual way for a dispute between two systems(5 randomly selected high judges not from those two systems. In the scenario that one planet affects more than one other planet, each planet is decided as a separate case for the purpose of finding judges not connected to the case.)
[X] Propose a twenty year moratorium on trade tithes for metal.
No. of votes: 1
Angelform
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
[X] Support Muspelheim's proposal
[X] Antivote Counterproposal
No. of votes: 1
Vlad
[X] Propose the improved quarantine discussion is shelved until an inspection by a Ordo Xeno inquisitor. Once the inspection has been performed Avernus will improve standards to what is required and the process will be reviewed at the next Council meeting.[/QUOTE]
No. of votes: 1
Dark as Silver
[X] Abstain from Vananheim's proposal
-[X] But point out its unconstitutionality.
[X] Support Muspelheim's proposal
No. of votes: 1
Artemis1992
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
-[X] Offer to pay 250,000,000 Thrones a year to help fund the project instead as a concession to Olaf.
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
No. of votes: 1
NHO
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
-[X] Offer to pay 250,000,000 Thrones a year to help fund the project instead as a concession to Olaf.
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
[X] Propose a twenty year moratorium on trade tithes for metal.
No. of votes: 17
Derek58, SirHades2.0, Stormgear, Enjou, Briefvoice, Shard, Nikandros, Alex pears, HanEmpire, drewski346, Darkcrest, Daniel14541, Praetor98, Vyrexuviel, Ramble, Fanhunter696, DarknessSmiles
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
-[X] Offer to pay 250,000,000 Thrones a year to help fund the project instead as a concession to Olaf.
-[X] Point out unconstitutionality with trade being levied.
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
No. of votes: 1
3man75
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
-[X] In recognition that Avernus has an extra responsibility to ensure the quarantine remains intact, offer to pay 250,000,000 Thrones a year to help fund the project.
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
[X] Propose a twenty year moratorium on trade tithes for metal.
No. of votes: 2
Elder Haman, Riggnarock
[X] Abstain from Vananheim's proposal, but point out it's unconstitutionality
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
[X] Propose a twenty year moratorium on trade tithes for metal.
No. of votes: 1
Superticus
##### 3.21
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
[X] Support Muspelheim's proposal
[X] Counter-Proposal to Vanaheim: Planetary system governments must pay damages, either monetary or in-kind, for any diseases or invasive species that leaves that planetary system and spreads to another within the Trust. Payment will be decided in the usual way for a dispute between two systems(5 randomly selected high judges not from those two systems. In the scenario that one planet affects more than one other planet, each planet is decided as a separate case for the purpose of finding judges not connected to the case.)
No. of votes: 3
DragonParadox, daemonkeeper, Reader of all
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
[X] Abstain from Muspelheim's proposal
[X] Counter-Proposal to Vanaheim: Planetary system governments must pay damages, either monetary or in-kind, for any diseases or invasive species that leaves that planetary system and spreads to another within the Trust. Payment will be decided in the usual way for a dispute between two systems(5 randomly selected high judges not from those two systems. In the scenario that one planet affects more than one other planet, each planet is decided as a separate case for the purpose of finding judges not connected to the case.)
No. of votes: 1
Dark Ness
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
[X] Support Muspelheim's proposal
[X] Counter-Proposal to Vanaheim: Planetary system governments must pay damages, either monetary or in-kind, for any diseases or invasive species that leaves that planetary system and spreads to another within the Trust. Payment will be decided in the usual way for a dispute between two systems(5 randomly selected high judges not from those two systems. In the scenario that one planet affects more than one other planet, each planet is decided as a separate case for the purpose of finding judges not connected to the case.)
[X] Propose a twenty year moratorium on trade tithes for metal.
No. of votes: 1
Angelform
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
[X] Support Muspelheim's proposal
[X] Antivote Counterproposal
No. of votes: 1
Vlad
[X] Propose the improved quarantine discussion is shelved until an inspection by a Ordo Xeno inquisitor. Once the inspection has been performed Avernus will improve standards to what is required and the process will be reviewed at the next Council meeting.[/QUOTE]
No. of votes: 1
Dark as Silver
[X] Abstain from Vananheim's proposal
-[X] But point out its unconstitutionality.
[X] Support Muspelheim's proposal
No. of votes: 1
Artemis1992
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
-[X] Offer to pay 250,000,000 Thrones a year to help fund the project instead as a concession to Olaf.
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
No. of votes: 1
NHO
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
-[X] Offer to pay 250,000,000 Thrones a year to help fund the project instead as a concession to Olaf.
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
[X] Propose a twenty year moratorium on trade tithes for metal.
No. of votes: 17
Derek58, SirHades2.0, Stormgear, Enjou, Briefvoice, Shard, Nikandros, Alex pears, HanEmpire, drewski346, Darkcrest, Daniel14541, Praetor98, Vyrexuviel, Ramble, Fanhunter696, DarknessSmiles
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
-[X] Offer to pay 250,000,000 Thrones a year to help fund the project instead as a concession to Olaf.
-[X] Point out unconstitutionality with trade being levied.
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
No. of votes: 1
3man75
[X] Oppose Vananheim's proposal on grounds of unconstitutionality
-[X] In recognition that Avernus has an extra responsibility to ensure the quarantine remains intact, offer to pay 250,000,000 Thrones a year to help fund the project.
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
[X] Propose a twenty year moratorium on trade tithes for metal.
No. of votes: 2
Elder Haman, Riggnarock
[X] Abstain from Vananheim's proposal, but point out it's unconstitutionality
[X] Suggest an alternative tithe for Muspelheim - they would build a militarized variant of a Nomad City designed to act as a mobile support facility for the Imperial Trust's military forces. It could act as a mobile shipyard to repair ships in hostile territory, and have docks for Flying Fortresses that could be dropped onto worlds to support ground troops and air forces.
[X] Propose a twenty year moratorium on trade tithes for metal.
No. of votes: 1
Superticus
- Location
- Leeds
Well thats nasty. Would someone remind me what the moratorium was intended for?
aledeth
The Flesh is Weak
- Pronouns
- He/Him
A lot of planets need lots of metal for construction projects, the Trust has huge reserves of the stuff and not a lot of upkeep, so tithing more is basically a waste for everyone.