The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
We should spend time with Xavier at some point. He's a loyal Hound, we should treat him well.
 
You're the Man behind the Curtain, the Faceless Council, the Illuminati, etc.
Durin's is clearly a member of the Reptilian Illuminati/MJ12.

Joking aside, this is pretty common when it comes to making massive combat turns. I like Haman's and Enjou's turns equally, but all honesty we are generally just voting for 1-3 difference in both their turns. That's not a slight against them or the options that Durin is giving us. There are not too many permutations that Enjou or Elder Haman can do without coming up with retarded turns.

It is really a matter of objective preference at the voters at this point...so yeah, kind of like US democracy at this point. Both the authors agree on pretty much the most important things...but differ on several "small" issues that most of the audience either isn't too interested in or is okay with whatever.
 
@Enjou As I said before, my major point of of taking Elder´s plan is that I think we should send Syr either to the Naval Academy or to the University next turn, another thing I´m not really sure about your plan is to do Replace ODP instead of Build ODP, the difference is only one more year and the firepower difference is pretty significant.

I gave some reasons for the latter thing, but let's ask the boss man on the ODPs to make sure my original assumptions are correct. @durin - What is Parnell's reasoning regarding preferring the replacement rather than just building new ones?
 
Durin's is clearly a member of the Reptilian Illuminati/MJ12.

Joking aside, this is pretty common when it comes to making massive combat turns. I like Haman's and Enjou's turns equally, but all honesty we are generally just voting for 1-3 difference in both their turns. That's not a slight against them or the options that Durin is giving us. There are not too many permutations that Enjou or Elder Haman can do without coming up with retarded turns.

It is really a matter of objective preference at the voters at this point...so yeah, kind of like US democracy at this point. Both the authors agree on pretty much the most important things...but differ on several "small" issues that most of the audience either isn't too interested in or is okay with whatever.
If this was a US democracy, Elder Haman and Enjou would be constantly insulting each other, deliberately keeping away from anything like acting like the other one, and going to the absolutely most insane extremes to differentiate each other.
 
If this was a US democracy, Elder Haman and Enjou would be constantly insulting each other, deliberately keeping away from anything like acting like the other one, and going to the absolutely most insane extremes to differentiate each other.
That's just every presidential election. Although the last ten years haven't been the greatest, most people in the US government agree on things that attempt to keep the US strong...the biggest one being defense spending.

Case in point, both Enjou and Haman agree on the same things with our military budgets.
 
[X] Plan Elder Haman T68

@Enjou Syr is the big sticking point. Your plan has more things that I want & less things that I don't want, but I'm basically a single issue voter on getting Syr to the Academy ATM.
 
I just hate Enjou for mass pinging me once in this quest, so I'm always going to vote for another plan when there's one available.
 
@durin - Given the sticking point with Syr's education, could we just vote on it and have continue her career be an option? It seems to be a major sticking point and it's stupid to have the entire rest of the plans discarded on that one issue.

Also, would you agree to blacklist notanautomaton and not count his votes henceforth since he's not actually voting for good reasons by his own admission?
 
@durin - Given the sticking point with Syr's education, could we just vote on it and have continue her career be an option?

Also, would you agree to blacklist notanautomaton and not count his votes henceforth since he's not actually voting for good reasons by his own admission?
yes continue her career will be an option
 
@Enjou As I said before, my major point of of taking Elder´s plan is that I think we should send Syr either to the Naval Academy or to the University next turn, another thing I´m not really sure about your plan is to do Replace ODP instead of Build ODP, the difference is only one more year and the firepower difference is pretty significant.
@Enjou Syr is the big sticking point. Your plan has more things that I want & less things that I don't want, but I'm basically a single issue voter on getting Syr to the Academy ATM.

Since durin said we can explicitly vote on keeping her in the Helltroopers or not as part of the vote, I've added it into my plan to vote on furthering her education. Care to switch over now?
 
I just hate Enjou for mass pinging me once in this quest, so I'm always going to vote for another plan when there's one available.

I'm really good at holding grudges. I draw the line at following him to other threads to vote against him though. Mainly because the mods said they'd infract me if I did...
Do you really hold a grudge to someone, for something so trivial and harmless as for being mass quoted once?

Take a step back and calm down dude...

[X] Plan Enjou T68
 
1x Einherjar Class Command Battleship

1 Champion Class Battleship
1 Hero Class Battleship
1 Legate Class Battleship

2 Pope Class Grand Carrier

3 Teutonic Class Heavy Cruiser
2 Chevalier Class Heavy Cruiser
2 Paladin Class Heavy Cruiser
4 Templar Class Heavy Carrier

15 Knight Class Cruiser
10 Cataphract Cruiser
10 Kshatriya Cruiser
7 Samurai Cruiser

20 Warrior Class Cruiser
10 Hoplite Class Cruiser
10 Bishop Class Carrier
10 Praetorian Class Cruiser
7 Bolas Class Cruiser

40 Youxia Class Escort Cruiser
15 Monk Class Escort Carrier

150 Squire Class Frigate
350 Soldier Class Destroyer
50 Page Class Frigate
50 Legionnaire Class Destroyer
30 Descent Class Destroyer

Stealth insertion unit
1 Night Class Battlecruiser
5 Fog Class Light Cruiser
10 Shadow Class Destroyer

With both plans doing Long Term Planning I've taken a few days to get my head back on straight from all the fleet build arguments then looked over my plan again. The short version is that I was keeping a fast unit in it as I used Elder Haman's as the base then modified it from there. Really looking at what we're trying to do I don't think that they add enough of a anti-harassment capability to be worth it and we should have the Trust cover us from a harassing fleet or enough range ships to counter their speed. They're armor is just too weak to stand in the battle line with the others and there wasn't enough to really do much to a harassing fleet other than die slowly. The changes I'm making should add to the fleet's survivability and it's main role of brushing away stationary defenses and defense fleets while protecting our transports. With this I'm done.

@durin this should be the last time I bother you with this but can you answer a few questions on the new set up?

1: What's the EM upkeep?

2: How effective would this be at Planetary Assault? (Stationary, monitors, fleets).

3: How well would they guard the troop convoy?

4: What would be the best match up for such a fleet?

6: What would be the worst match up for such a fleet?

7:What would it take for the enemy to hammer such a fleet?
 
1. 1800
2. very effective vs all
3. well but not very well
4. a generlsist fleet
5. a fast fleet
6. any significantly larger or more powerful fleet
 
could i ahve a vote count

Vote Tally : Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) | Page 1537 | Sufficient Velocity
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[X] Plan Enjou T68
No. of Votes: 15

[X] Plan Elder Haman T68
No. of Votes: 10

[X] Plan Portec T-68
No. of Votes: 0

Total No. of Voters: 25
 
I'm really good at holding grudges. I draw the line at following him to other threads to vote against him though. Mainly because the mods said they'd infract me if I did...
I honestly think I haven't seen anything pettier and more insulting on SV. Congrats.

Like, why would who you feel the need to flat out tell everyone in the thread you're petty and rude with a nonsensical grudge? Do you thrive on negative attention? Do you consider this to be trolling? Do you think we'll just tacitly accept the reasoning behind your votes? I'm morbidly curious as to your actual reasons for just flat out stating this. I've seen you bitch about it before, but to nurse this grudge for so long.... Isn't this a violation of Rule 3? This *seems* to be pretty damn hateful in regards to its intentions. I mean, it's sabotage, not very effective sabotage but an attempt at sabotage nonetheless.

[X] Plan Elder Haman T68

Don't want to start the Siren Embassy yet. And I like Haman's ship surveys more.
 
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Your plan includes Kinetic Weapons (54% with DD) and Graviton Weapons (4% with DD). Unless my math is horribly off, those are very good chances of us losing the chance to reverse engineer those techs. I'd rather wait on them and focus on easier technologies first.

I don't believe that these techs are tech that we lose the chance to try again on.

That was mentioned only for the Starship Construction tech as I recall.

@durin Can you confirm?
 
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