The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Ok, easy way to solve this - @durin, what is the likely result of keeping around psykers who have failed their trials in order to train them more to give them another chance later?
a greater number of psykers but many psykers with weaker wills
also more training accidents in the Unseen University and a greater chance of disaster
 
Not failed their trials, but rather psykers who are deemed not ready for their trials in time who are growing their control at a steady rate and should be able to pass the trials if they get a couple few extra years of training.

I'm pretty sure that there's no clear way to know if someone is ready for the trials or not, and if they are so bad off that it's known they won't pass then they probably won't pass in a few years either, though @durin can confirm that.
 
a greater number of psykers but many psykers with weaker wills
also more training accidents in the Unseen University and a greater chance of disaster
are trials entirely about will? I thought they were about control.
if it is just a question of will, how come it's harder the higher their psyker rating? and how come training gives them a bonus?
 
So what's power creep and is it good?
Power Creep - TV Tropes

TLDR companies that sell new content make the new content objectively better than the old content to entice players. resulting in stuff getting always more powerful

Also, sometimes happens in stories. For example, luke skywalker was the force jesus but the best he could do was call a lightsaber to his hand once per battle after grunting at it for 20 seconds.
The emperor shot a bit of lightening for a few seconds and it rapidly aged him into a decrepit form he never recovered from
Meanwhile new jedi are pulling down massive starships from orbit or shooting lightening all day long with no limit.
 
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are trials entirely about will? I thought they were about control.
if it is just a question of will, how come it's harder the higher their psyker rating? and how come training gives them a bonus?

1. Willpower helps with control. Remember that psyker powers are about manipulating the power of the Warp, which is a realm of emotion. It's not the only factor for control, but it's a major one.
2. More power requires greater will/control to use safely.
 
Perhaps we should start cloning Xavier? The clones wouldn't be as powerful as him, obviously, but they'd have a decent amount of power and, more importantly, would have a greater sanity quotient than normal psykers of their power level. @durin, is this a possibility?
 
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are trials entirely about will? I thought they were about control.
if it is just a question of will, how come it's harder the higher their psyker rating? and how come training gives them a bonus?
a mix of will and control
it is harder the more powerful you are as you will attract more deamons trying to tempt and posses you
 
another point on this topic is that fail rate includes all the young psykers killed by Avernus, the actual proportion of thse that attempt the trails that ass is higher then it seems
this is because I can't be bothered to keep track of casualties among the psykers when they are young
 
I'm just reading about the "Afriel Strain" for the first time and I'm liking what I'm seeing. A bit of bad luck and dislike from non-Afriels but they were considered "undoubtedly superior" compared to non-Afriels.
A "bit of bad luck" is an understatement, especially when you have entire regiments of Lord Solar Machariuses getting killed by things like the Munitorum sending them shipments of skin lotions instead of food. They got declared cursed and heretical by the Inquisition, which should tell you something. Afriel Strains are failed projects, and should stay buried. Applying them to Beta-class psykers of all things will lead to nothing but catastrophe.
 
hey, not all psyker cloning experiments end badly, remember that time emps cloned himself?
aside from some minor bumps (horus heresy) it went fine.
 
you mean minor bumps like at least half his clones turning to Chaos (i have suspicions about the 2nd and 11th) and several other being mutated
pish posh, what's a little bit of chaos.

Also, to be fair to emps though, chaos had to kidnap the clones when they were babies, and they still only managed to corrupt half of them instead of all of them
 
@durin @Enjou It is really lost in the Empire the clonning science?

As you have said before GW is famous for his inconsistences, but I´ve readed in other WH40K articles and tales, that cloning is fairly normal in the Empire. For example, use clones to harvest the Space Marines progenoids, that many servitors or familiars comes from clonning, or the use of Iron Wombs in Krieg or in some Sisters of Battle orders...
 
another point on this topic is that fail rate includes all the young psykers killed by Avernus, the actual proportion of thse that attempt the trails that ass is higher then it seems
this is because I can't be bothered to keep track of casualties among the psykers when they are young

That actually makes me feel better about our pass rates. It also seems to me that the key to getting a higher pass rate is stopping Avernus from killing our psykers.
 
It is really lost in the Empire the clonning science?
It's not. Both Quintus Saren (our biologis) and Tertius Saren (our previous biologis) are clones.

That actually makes me feel better about our pass rates. It also seems to me that the key to getting a higher pass rate is stopping Avernus from killing our psykers.
It's probably less Avernus killing the psykers and more the psykers suddenly becoming daemons.

some Sisters of Battle orders...
Is that a Sororitas Quest reference?
 
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