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- Australia
It isn't. The actions we'd have to take to do them would be better spend doing something else.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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How so, they would occur on a set schedule and we could delegate someone to attend them. We don't spend actions to attend High Council meetings, this would be similar.
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- not telling
Enjou I got three ideas I want to run by you. First is setting up sub Unseen Universitys/Psyker Hunter Academies on the other worlds to both locate and train/kill pykers. Second was to pass around a list of our archeotech backlog to see what the others think/would like for us to get done first and why. Third one is to check with Security Council and Inquisitorial Representative to see what kind of units they would prefer more of and if they would lend us a hand in rising them.
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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- Murica
The first one has been suggested before, and the consensus was that other worlds don't produce anywhere near enough psykers to make a Scholastica Psykana worthwhile. As to Psyker Hunter Academies, once the latest round of facilities on Avernus are complete, we should have enough to start sending them offworld.
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- Australia
Gammas and Deltas appear in 1 in a billion humans. Midgard has 115 billion humans living on it. They have about 115 very powerful psykers and a lot more that are less powerful, or at least they would if they weren't executed immediately upon discovery.
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- Anchorage, Alaska
Yes, well.
Yeah, the vast bulk of the Trust's psykers are Avernite, and thanks to our wonky population ratios, that is unlikely to change, if only because everyone starts to ship their psykers to us.
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You know, looking at the numbers I wonder if we could look into starting some kind of Neo-Navigators that can do at least short hops. Well that and maybe talk to Fabricator-General Britton and Headmaster Ridcully about seconding some of those Sanctionites both Minor and Major to the Adeptus Mechanicus or out right inducting them into the Priesthood to look for the Machine God's knowledge in Warp based things like other sects look into other paths. They can be used to look into stuff for Quintus Saren without us having to use actions or lowering the number of turns said actions take. Might even increase some Adeptus Mechanicus stuff to help the Adeptus Astra Telepathica with like better Force Staves or equipment to help our Neo-Astropaths and Neo-Astropathic Receivers send and receive further.
Edit: Holy crap. Counting it up we have 37 Deltas, 9 Gammas (Ridcully is note to have gone from Delta to Gamma), 1 Beta, and 3 Elite Primaris Psykers whose powers are not noted. This doesn't count the 3 Betas, 19 Gammas, and 96 Deltas still in training. Even if only 1 in 3 survive that's over 150 Primaris grade Psykers in the next 20ish or so years. And it only going to go higher. We rise a 1000+ man Psyker complement for the Trust Guard lead by it's own Beta in the next ten years and not cost more than half our Battle Psykers.
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- Leeds
What are people who don't know about the Trust even going to think come first contact with the trust army. Considering that we're capable of deploying power armour users in regimental quantities and lost technologies I would suggest that people might think that we're some remnant of the Imperial Army thats been stranded in the warp for thirteen thousand years except as I recall they weren't big on psykers and we're also using a couple of hive worlds worth of them.
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This was the last vote count and only one vote after it was done. Sorry but i don't know how to run a Vote count program or were to get one.
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- Australia
The Third Meeting of the High Council Part Four: Two Meetings
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- Alice Springs, Australia
The Third Meeting of the High Council Part Four: Two Meetings
You arranged a meeting with Champion Surt of Muspelheim, First Artisan Granalf of Svartalfheim and Fabricator General Britton of the Adeptus Mechanicus for tomorrow evening with the intention of talking about setting up more technical conferences. They are not convinced that any more conferences are worthwhile but are willing to listen to you.
The initial bit of the meeting was the technical experts talking over the conference from their points of view. In general while every group learned a lot from the conference they are all frustrated by the secrets that the other groups are keeping, yet are unwilling, or unable, to share any of their own secrets. The general opinion is that another conference would be useless unless one or more of the groups are willing to share some of their secrets as everything that someone is willing to share has already been shared. The idea of having a conference to design more ships using the newly discovered technologies is considered worthwhile but is shelved until Vanaheim is once more in contact given that only the Adeptus Mechanicus has any experience in shipbuilding.
The Adeptus Mechanicus are annoyed that the other two groups are keeping secrets and that their primacy is being challenged, even subtly. Despite this they are not willing to share many of their own secrets, which are forbidden to teach to outsiders much as Fabricator-General Britton personally wishes to share them.
The Artisan Guilds have shared everything that is not a Guild Secret and have even shared some of the most basic Guild Secrets, they are not willing to give up any more of their secrets. You get the idea that it may be possible to trade secret for secret with them but that would require that one of the other groups be willing to part with their own secrets.
Champion Surt of Muspelheim is, supposedly, the most willing to share his secrets but claims to have already shared everything that is relevant. Given the distrusting look he gives Fabricator-General Britton at that point you suspect that he has a lot of hidden technology and that he fears that the Adeptus Mechanicus would classify him as a heretek if he shared it.
You attempt to convince the gathered leaders that another technical conference would be worthwhile ended up failing, though at least the idea was not ruled out for the future. You believe that there will need to be some significant reformation by the Mechanicus or the Artisan Guilds before another major conference is possible.
Diplomacy roll d100=69+12(Diplomacy)=81: Fail
You conversation with First Artisan Granalf about a military exchange of power armoured troops is taken far better and he agrees to participate. Sometime over the next year he will have his generals contact yours in order to arrange the details.
You arranged a meeting with Champion Surt of Muspelheim, First Artisan Granalf of Svartalfheim and Fabricator General Britton of the Adeptus Mechanicus for tomorrow evening with the intention of talking about setting up more technical conferences. They are not convinced that any more conferences are worthwhile but are willing to listen to you.
The initial bit of the meeting was the technical experts talking over the conference from their points of view. In general while every group learned a lot from the conference they are all frustrated by the secrets that the other groups are keeping, yet are unwilling, or unable, to share any of their own secrets. The general opinion is that another conference would be useless unless one or more of the groups are willing to share some of their secrets as everything that someone is willing to share has already been shared. The idea of having a conference to design more ships using the newly discovered technologies is considered worthwhile but is shelved until Vanaheim is once more in contact given that only the Adeptus Mechanicus has any experience in shipbuilding.
The Adeptus Mechanicus are annoyed that the other two groups are keeping secrets and that their primacy is being challenged, even subtly. Despite this they are not willing to share many of their own secrets, which are forbidden to teach to outsiders much as Fabricator-General Britton personally wishes to share them.
The Artisan Guilds have shared everything that is not a Guild Secret and have even shared some of the most basic Guild Secrets, they are not willing to give up any more of their secrets. You get the idea that it may be possible to trade secret for secret with them but that would require that one of the other groups be willing to part with their own secrets.
Champion Surt of Muspelheim is, supposedly, the most willing to share his secrets but claims to have already shared everything that is relevant. Given the distrusting look he gives Fabricator-General Britton at that point you suspect that he has a lot of hidden technology and that he fears that the Adeptus Mechanicus would classify him as a heretek if he shared it.
You attempt to convince the gathered leaders that another technical conference would be worthwhile ended up failing, though at least the idea was not ruled out for the future. You believe that there will need to be some significant reformation by the Mechanicus or the Artisan Guilds before another major conference is possible.
Diplomacy roll d100=69+12(Diplomacy)=81: Fail
You conversation with First Artisan Granalf about a military exchange of power armoured troops is taken far better and he agrees to participate. Sometime over the next year he will have his generals contact yours in order to arrange the details.
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We have that personal attention action with Briton to try to reform the Mechanicus. Many times of which I expressed we could use to push them to be more open and slowly let go of their dogma.
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- USA
that is a good justification for keeping secrets...
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- madison
Briton is all for sharing, but his own institution would trun on him if he did. He's already doing slow reforms towards being less secretive. There isn't much we can do to help with an internal Mechanicus matter.
Well this event certainly pointed out the issues that the everyone else is having. The funny thing was that no one was against working with us, it's just they have major trust issues with their other partners.
This is Durin's way of gently reminding us that there are still plenty of politics happening in the background of this game.
This is Durin's way of gently reminding us that there are still plenty of politics happening in the background of this game.
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- Germany
If we tried to directly influence the Admech politics we would propably weaken Brittons position instead of helping him. They have to solve their internal problems without outside help.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
yes it is
Or Britton could fail outright and be replaced in time with a more conservative Tech Priest. Success is hardly inevitable.
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- Australia
Tranth and Saren might both object while Saint Lin definitely would. Despite being a member of the rival cult, his words carry great weight as the Last Saint of the Emperor. But anyway, that's not likely to happen. Britton is an intelligent individual who knows the only way to change the Mechanicus is to do so slowly. This is both because the orthodoxists would rebel and because going too fast is antithetical to the Balanced Approach that the Mechanicus must take going into the future.
Also, Mechanicus morale is at 20/10, so there's really no chance of Britton getting ousted by angry tech priests.
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All it would take is a few bad rolls for Britton to die anyway.
What I say is that the AdMech Cult needs a reform in the same vein the Church had with the Imperial Truth.
What I mean is to challenge the Mechanicus on their rituals and practices they do out of dogma and mindless obedience to tradition. For this is a way for tehe Abomination to take hold.
I don't doubt that some of them serve a purpose, but I say that the rituals should be put through tests to determine if they do something beneficial, are a waste of time or are actually harmful (some of the tech might not like all the melting wax, seals that get caught in the moving parts, etc) to the function of the machine they are done to.
What I mean is to challenge the Mechanicus on their rituals and practices they do out of dogma and mindless obedience to tradition. For this is a way for tehe Abomination to take hold.
I don't doubt that some of them serve a purpose, but I say that the rituals should be put through tests to determine if they do something beneficial, are a waste of time or are actually harmful (some of the tech might not like all the melting wax, seals that get caught in the moving parts, etc) to the function of the machine they are done to.
