Where does it actually say that?
I do notice though that there's only a 10% base chance for Martial. I might change that to Diplomacy if people think that's a good idea.
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Where does it actually say that?
I do notice though that there's only a 10% base chance for Martial. I might change that to Diplomacy if people think that's a good idea.
@durin said that way back when tutoring became an action.
About Martial only having a 10% base chance we have to thank the last crit for that as it pushed her to 30. Diplomacy is not valid as Fredericks Diplo is only 22 and Syr already has 19. Her mother has 30 and could tutor her to 20 (teacher stat - 10 = maximum trainable stat).
That would only leave Combat and doubling down on Administration for Frederick to teach.
I'd like to see that quote.
Again, not sure where you're getting this from.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
@Enjou would you be willing to change Spend time with family to Tutor Syr (Combat)? It's an important trait on Avernus, and I don't want to loose her over something stupid. Also, we don't need to spend as much time with family now that the wife lost her infidelity trait, so we can take a turn off that.
You're forgetting that we have a large bonus to the martial tutoring. So it's not 10%, but rather 58%.
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Just checked character sheets. Why has no one mentioned that Syr is nearly at the fighting ability of an Inquisitor? Thats one dangerous ten year old.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Because she isn't. She has 10 Combat, which is average for an adult. The parentheses are what her trait will be at 18.
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I see. Clearly I knew that and this was a test. Well I'll just have to settle for beating the King of Alfheim.
Here. Was hard to find...
There actually are a bunch of Avernites fighting on Cadia already.
Annwn is a reference to the Welsh mythology isn't it? Wasn't that the land of the dead? (My welsh mythology is rather rusty).
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"Even if the emperor is dead, there is still Governor Rotbart! Fight you pansies! Don't disappoint him!"
"AVERNUS!"
"OOH-RAH!"
"AVERNUS!"
"OOH-RAH!"
Cultist 1: "you ever have those days when you get a niggling feeling that turning to Chaos was one of your worse decisions?"
Cultist 2: "You're only saying that because you have to fight those guys. Don't worry, we'll be fine. It's impossible for them to kill us all."
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
@Enjou with the new information, I'd advise that you remove having Seamus tutor Syr, and have us tutor her in combat instead. It will merely cancel out the palace bonus, which still leaves us with an okay chance of success on all of the actions. And Piety isn't as useful compared to Combat, Military, or Administration.
@durin is there a way for us to get Freya to tutor Syrr in Diplomacy? Or to get Jane to tutor her in Combat or Intrigue?
@durin is there a way for us to get Freya to tutor Syrr in Diplomacy? Or to get Jane to tutor her in Combat or Intrigue?
Hmmm, I'm rather concerned by the Arbites choices. We apparently have no choice but to take actions that might offend people...
Isn't there anything else interesting to do with the Arbites?
Like training Witch Hunters for export to the rest of the Imperial Trust?
Isn't there anything else interesting to do with the Arbites?
Like training Witch Hunters for export to the rest of the Imperial Trust?
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Cadian: Why do you think the governor is even alive. The Emprah is dead, he could die too."
Avernite: Clearly you don't know Rotbart.
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Is it 10 below her adult stay for tutoring, and does it count 10 from our marriage enhanced stat. If it does we can use personals on admin, dip, martial and combat if not then dip is off the list.
Also for tutoring
Combat 63%
Admin 59%
Martial 58%
Dip 57%
@Enjou since more material is needed then we can make for the next city upgrades can you switch ship construction to the automated factories?
Also for tutoring
Combat 63%
Admin 59%
Martial 58%
Dip 57%
@Enjou since more material is needed then we can make for the next city upgrades can you switch ship construction to the automated factories?
HanEmpire
Delicious
We're planning on an artificial Double-Down for Indepth spy networks.
Freya is still high maintenance. We should really only not use Spend Time With Family when we have something important that can't wait.
Syr also has elite bodyguards, and we still have a number of years to tutor her in combat. She won't be killing anything large herself yet for a number of years, given she's only 10.
As I asked earlier, we can essentially double down on the deepen spy network action by taking it twice (since Jane is spending twice the resources, just like a double down) which will make it very unlikely we'll end up offending the other party. My plan has us doing this for Midgard.
EDIT - with the doubling up on the action plus Jane's Intrigue bonus, it's actually impossible for us to fail so badly that they would get offended barring a natural 1, and we do have our divination reroll.
We also need to upgrade our ship building capacity. We've got many, many needs. I could switch that out if enough people think we shouldn't go for the ship building stuff yet, but not yet enough people have expressed that they don't want to try.
Anyways, with the chances of tutoring being less likely to succeed by doing more than two, does anyone else have any opinions on the other options? We can...
1. Do three tutoring options anyways.
2. Have Rotbart take up a Personal Attention project. (I would prefer nothing over three years in length, but I could do the factories if people really want them)
3. Have Saint Lin do something other than tutoring, though this locks him out of tutoring Syr for a few years.
Please let me know your opinions and I'll make a decision.
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
We have elite bodyguards, and we've had our plane get shot down, resulting in us having to survive in the wilderness for a week. Not to mention all the other times we've almost died. This is Avernus, if you get complacent, you will get Syr killed.
Have Saint Lin do something else, since Piety isn't the most important stat for Syr's future, as she won't be joining the clergy. And she's already above average. Instead, teach her combat, since blademaster traits increase military as well as combat.
@durin Can we do some other Arbites actions?
Such as having Jane tutoring Syr, or training Witch Hunters for export to the rest of the Imperial Trust. Or integrating minor psyker sancitionites into the Arbites system?
We did get everyone to join it later.
Don't we already have all planets opinions on Colonization? I thought we did already it twice already.
Also, should we try sounding out the Security Council and Inquisition before lobbying them? Isn't Vanaheim the only planet left that opposes the Quarteks?
You know, something key to think about on the tutoring is the chance at a trait. Since Syr got Military Genius, the other main trait we have that would be nice to pass on would be in intrigue: Warrior of the Shadows.
Xavier has Master Saboteur, and Jane has Master of Shadows. I don't think we can spare Xavier to tutor Syr, but with how quiet Arbites is, Jane is a possibility.
Administration is Syr's weakest trait, so I would prefer Administratum, and Intrigue as the things to tutor Syr on.
Another possibility for Rotbart would be to do the Recon Phase Tigers action, that's 3 years locked PA, but it would allow us to get that unit.
Hmm... I lean towards dropping the piety then. But dropping one of our tutor actions would also be possible.
I don't think they qualify do they?
I guess that's fine for now, but that locks all our Arbites actions for four years right?
Such as having Jane tutoring Syr, or training Witch Hunters for export to the rest of the Imperial Trust. Or integrating minor psyker sancitionites into the Arbites system?
We did get everyone to join it later.
Don't we already have all planets opinions on Colonization? I thought we did already it twice already.
Also, should we try sounding out the Security Council and Inquisition before lobbying them? Isn't Vanaheim the only planet left that opposes the Quarteks?
You know, something key to think about on the tutoring is the chance at a trait. Since Syr got Military Genius, the other main trait we have that would be nice to pass on would be in intrigue: Warrior of the Shadows.
Xavier has Master Saboteur, and Jane has Master of Shadows. I don't think we can spare Xavier to tutor Syr, but with how quiet Arbites is, Jane is a possibility.
Administration is Syr's weakest trait, so I would prefer Administratum, and Intrigue as the things to tutor Syr on.
Another possibility for Rotbart would be to do the Recon Phase Tigers action, that's 3 years locked PA, but it would allow us to get that unit.
Hmm... I lean towards dropping the piety then. But dropping one of our tutor actions would also be possible.
I don't think they qualify do they?
I guess that's fine for now, but that locks all our Arbites actions for four years right?
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Durin says we can still get the opinions of the Inquisition and the Security Council. Maybe the AdMech as well. All of them get a vote in the matter, after all.
Admiral Freyr is from Vanaheim, so Olaf has his ear no doubt. We also only have one more year before things start.
Also, the Inquisition and the Security Council being opposed could make a difference in the actual meeting.
It would be three, and I don't think so. This would be Jane focusing all of her attention on this for one year, rather than splitting it between two things, as well as spending double the resources. I think it should only take up one action slot next year, but @durin can confirm.
If not, well, we currently don't have much else in the slot we want to actually use.
[X] Personal Attention: Educational Reform
[X] Sound Out (Colonisation)
[X] Request Information (Asgard mines)
[X] Deepen Spy Network (Midgard)
-[X] Double Down: Deepen Spy Network (Midgard)
[X] No action (Arbites)
[X] The Ship Graveyard: Set up
[X] Examine: Automated Factories
[X] Detailed Survey (Kraken)
[X] Spread the Words
[X] Tutoring (Syr)
[X] Research: Black Crystal Items (Ring)
[X] Research: Black Crystal Items (Crown)
[X] Spend Time With Family
[X] Tutor Syr (Administration)
[X] Sound Out (Colonisation)
[X] Request Information (Asgard mines)
[X] Deepen Spy Network (Midgard)
-[X] Double Down: Deepen Spy Network (Midgard)
[X] No action (Arbites)
[X] The Ship Graveyard: Set up
[X] Examine: Automated Factories
[X] Detailed Survey (Kraken)
[X] Spread the Words
[X] Tutoring (Syr)
[X] Research: Black Crystal Items (Ring)
[X] Research: Black Crystal Items (Crown)
[X] Spend Time With Family
[X] Tutor Syr (Administration)
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I think the part in red is a copy paste error
isn't the underlined just repeating what the line before it said verbatim?
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[X] Elder Haman
Annwn kind of was an interesting idea because when I rolled stuff up for Castle-3, Annwn got effectively several fertile worlds probably on the level of each them becoming an agri-world if the inhabitants weren't on the level of feudal/feral cultures and were slightly warring most of the time, hence why they were called the Savage Seven by Segmentum Command in the omake.
Of course it depends on how much of the omake that Durin is keeping and how much he has discarded. He never did declare the omake was canon, only that the CWC fit into a plan he in mind. So take what I said with a grain of salt I guess.
It is, I chose that name because I wanted to keep up with the theme of naming conventions of what this game is going for. Lot of neighboring sectors and sub-sectors seem to have a sort of afterlife vibe going for them.
Annwn kind of was an interesting idea because when I rolled stuff up for Castle-3, Annwn got effectively several fertile worlds probably on the level of each them becoming an agri-world if the inhabitants weren't on the level of feudal/feral cultures and were slightly warring most of the time, hence why they were called the Savage Seven by Segmentum Command in the omake.
Of course it depends on how much of the omake that Durin is keeping and how much he has discarded. He never did declare the omake was canon, only that the CWC fit into a plan he in mind. So take what I said with a grain of salt I guess.
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[X] Sound Out (Colonisation)
[X] Lobby for Quartok (Admiral Frery/Security Council)
-[X] The military situation with xenos has changed with the collapse of the Imperium. We need to prioritize combating major xenos threats, and avoid conflicts with non-threatening xenos that would weaken us for little or no gain. Because of this we need to gain experience in diplomacy with xenos that are not immediately hostile. The Quartok are perfect for us to gain this experience. The security risks they pose are minimal as they are limited to a single city on a heavily militarized planet, they have Arbites watchers to look out for rebellion or signs of Chaos, and the city's orbital defenses have humans among the operators to ensure they could be shut down if the city needed to be bombarded from orbit. Culturally, they are a good fit, as their Rule of Gold helps them look beyond the past and has made it so they can look beyond their conflict with the Imperium and work with humans for a better future. This philosophy is similar to the one the Aquila represents. Finally, they represent a good diplomatic tool for dealing with other xenos who may feel they were wronged by the Imperium, as it shows the Imperial Trust is different and is not inherently hostile to xenos.
I think we need to update the argument a bit to focus on what this means for the Security Council, and why they should actually care.
[X] Deepen Spy Network (Midgard)
[X] Deepen Spy Network (Midgard) x2
Alright, this turn we double down. But I'd like some Jane Intrigue tutoring eventually.
[X] Examine: Vanquishers
[X] Try to complete STC fragment: Stealth Planes
[X] Detailed Survey (Kraken)
I think we need to get a bunch of the low hanging fruit before going after the big shiny. We need Vanquishers to replace what we have lost. And Stealth Planes help fill one of the large weaknesses, since we often fight without air domination. They are 92% and 77% chances respectively, so we can use the double down on Psyker actions.
[X] Spread the Words
[X] Missionary Work (Asgard)
Tutoring Syr more than twice reduces chances, Missionary work is a one year action, and Asgard is at 4 morale, so lets give them a bump.
[X] Research (Siren Shield)
-[X] Double Down: Research (Siren Shield)
[X] Research (Trolls)
Trolls research is a one year action, let's do that and we'll still be able next year to do cheating if needed.
[X] Spend Time With Family
[X] Tutor Syr (Administratum)
[X] Tutor Syr (Martial)
Let's try to see if Intrigue can crit. Martial is a reduced chance at this point, so we should spread the wealth.
EDIT: Switch to Martial, Syr is a bit too good for us to tutor her in intrigue. Maybe we can still get Warrior of the Shadows trait from the martial tutoring.
[X] Lobby for Quartok (Admiral Frery/Security Council)
-[X] The military situation with xenos has changed with the collapse of the Imperium. We need to prioritize combating major xenos threats, and avoid conflicts with non-threatening xenos that would weaken us for little or no gain. Because of this we need to gain experience in diplomacy with xenos that are not immediately hostile. The Quartok are perfect for us to gain this experience. The security risks they pose are minimal as they are limited to a single city on a heavily militarized planet, they have Arbites watchers to look out for rebellion or signs of Chaos, and the city's orbital defenses have humans among the operators to ensure they could be shut down if the city needed to be bombarded from orbit. Culturally, they are a good fit, as their Rule of Gold helps them look beyond the past and has made it so they can look beyond their conflict with the Imperium and work with humans for a better future. This philosophy is similar to the one the Aquila represents. Finally, they represent a good diplomatic tool for dealing with other xenos who may feel they were wronged by the Imperium, as it shows the Imperial Trust is different and is not inherently hostile to xenos.
I think we need to update the argument a bit to focus on what this means for the Security Council, and why they should actually care.
[X] Deepen Spy Network (Midgard)
[X] Deepen Spy Network (Midgard) x2
Alright, this turn we double down. But I'd like some Jane Intrigue tutoring eventually.
[X] Examine: Vanquishers
[X] Try to complete STC fragment: Stealth Planes
[X] Detailed Survey (Kraken)
I think we need to get a bunch of the low hanging fruit before going after the big shiny. We need Vanquishers to replace what we have lost. And Stealth Planes help fill one of the large weaknesses, since we often fight without air domination. They are 92% and 77% chances respectively, so we can use the double down on Psyker actions.
[X] Spread the Words
[X] Missionary Work (Asgard)
Tutoring Syr more than twice reduces chances, Missionary work is a one year action, and Asgard is at 4 morale, so lets give them a bump.
[X] Research (Siren Shield)
-[X] Double Down: Research (Siren Shield)
[X] Research (Trolls)
Trolls research is a one year action, let's do that and we'll still be able next year to do cheating if needed.
[X] Spend Time With Family
[X] Tutor Syr (Administratum)
[X] Tutor Syr (Martial)
Let's try to see if Intrigue can crit. Martial is a reduced chance at this point, so we should spread the wealth.
EDIT: Switch to Martial, Syr is a bit too good for us to tutor her in intrigue. Maybe we can still get Warrior of the Shadows trait from the martial tutoring.
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