Nervos Belli
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Not all of the giant killer things are psychic, as far as we know. Titan Scorpions and Carniflowers for example, exhibit no obvious psychic behavior.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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Not all of the giant killer things are psychic, as far as we know. Titan Scorpions and Carniflowers for example, exhibit no obvious psychic behavior.
Titan Scorpions use biomancy to get as big as they do, from what durin has told us. I don't know what Carniflowers do, but they probably have some kind of psychic abilities.
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- madison
The blank bears.
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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- Murica
I don't know about that. There's clearly some psychic overmind directing things on Avernus, but that doesn't mean everything on planet is a psychic. Some of them are probably just million year old discarded test subjects. Not all of the Old One Projects dealt with the Immaterium, even if that was their specialty.
Not every living thing on the planet has to be psychic, but pretty much any of the large predators are most likely in possession of one psychic ability at the very least.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. This is a result of the Nine Worlds filling available ships with menThey can literally drown enemys in troops.
Midgard has a population of 115,000,000,000
The military numbers around 2,750,000,000
That are 2.4% of their population or 75% of Avernus population or 40 times our military.
Strength in numbers truely.
@durin 1. Have the nine world pooled all of their transport capacity together and filled everything that was not used by then with Iron guard regiments? I ask because the three armys (without Iron Guard) only barely number together more than the Iron Guard.
2. To deploy the tue 'We have reserves'-strategy we will need more troop transports. How many more do we need between the nine worlds to deploy 100,000 regiments? Simple math (100,000 / 200 = 500 ) gives an answer but what is the difference that we still need?
3. And how many escort/cruiser would be needed to guard the transporter into an hostile system?
4a. What is the expected population Avernus can handle self sufficient if we do not expand to the other continents?
4b. What is the expected population Avernus can handle if we import 50% of the needed food?
2. around three hundred
3. four to five hundred escorts and a hundred cruisers at the minimum
4. six or seven billion
5 double that
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- Alice Springs, Australia
there are quite a few more normal, though often still dangerous, creatures on Avernus that just are not mentioned
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to bring this back up
do we have any estimate on the Warp Storms? Are they getting stronger? Weaker? If we're stuck in here for to long we might not last with three major wars in as many decades.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
they seem to be staying steady, three is no real way to predict how long they will last
also why on earth do you think that you will get support when the Warp Storms die down?
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Crap. So much for the hope that it might be close to ending.
Press gangs son! Or at lest trade with other petty Imperiums carved from the corpse of the old one. Hell just a fleet going around looting fallen worlds were the locals wiped themselves out could net us all sorts of stuff. Material and other storage sites we could scoop up and send back. Titans (or parts of them) from the ruins of Forge Realms slaughtered by cultist before they were killed in turn by navel bombardments. Drifting ships of the old Imperium lacking crews or repairs we could drag back to press into service. Armys worth of supplies we can use to outfit whole divisions of troops with from shattered Adeptus Munitorium depots. The populations of Hive Worlds we could collect to seed more colony's loyal to us. Smacking some pirates who formed from the old Navel squadrons around for their ships. Once we are no long stuck here there is all sorts of things we can do besides the time honored tradition of "jacking other peoples shit for ourselves."
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You're kinda forgetting the elephant in the room known as the Star Father. Everything the Corpse-Emperor could do, the Star Father could do better as a result of not being a corpse and actually being empowered by his quintillions of worshippers. Retaking the Imperium was easy enough for him that he was able to invade Slaanesh's realm just a few years after his birth. Even now he's only being beaten back by the combined efforts of all four Chaos gods. When those warp storms go down, we'll have to deal with the four Chaos gods of old and a new, ultra-powerful Chaos god of Obedience.
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Can't the Chaos faction pretty much ingoner the storms to hit us anyway? Like that one warband we had to stop from deamon worlding our hive world?
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- madison
the star father got a massive surge of strength when it was first born, It burned through that to establish itself. It's probably roughly equal to the 4 ruinous powers, and thats actually a good thing for us. see it Hates the ruinous powers, and will be spending a lot of its effort on destroying them. So yes we have to deal with chaos, and the star father, but both of them are going to be very busy dealing with each other. We just have to be a tough enough nut to crack that neither side can spare a force large enough to do so.
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- Australia
Considering all the ancient tech we have and the presence of the Last Saint of the Emperor Himself, I'd reckon we'd be considered an extremely high value target for both sides.
@durin, I have some questions regarding the Emperor, though they are all questions that are answerable IC. If they are not, ignore.
When will the Emperor ascend to godhood - before or when He is born? If the former, will the Emperor retain his True Divinity after He is born?
Right now, is He worshipped as the Emperor or the God-Emperor? Will that change once he ascends to godhood?
What does the Mechanicus think of Living Saints in general?
With the revelation that He was just a man, what implications are there for the Cult Mechanicus and their worship of the Emperor as the Omnissiah?
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- madison
point. well at least the fact that both sides who want our stuff are involved in a war to the hilt limits how much they can afford to send after us.
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- Australia
Our segmentum (Pacificus) is adjacent to the ones containing the Eye of Terror and the Eye of Terra. See here.
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Ideas?
Avernus has already 3.6 billlion and there is a great chance that we run into overcrowding issues or reach a point where we can no longer feed our populations out of our own produce.
Ideas?
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- madison
that doesn't invalidate my point. we aren't between them, so we don't have to worry about being polanded. On top of that segmentum are huge, so we are still going to be fairly far from either side. chaos and the star father are probably going to have 90%+ of there forces tied up dealing with each other, if we build up fast enough neither side is going to be able to spare a force large enough to steamroll us.
we'll still be seeing frequent invasions mind, but as tempting a target as we are we won't be the central focus of either side.
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One space with moon forges or the area were we put our ship stuff. We could shove a lot of people out there making ship parts, mining moons, asteroids, and doing other stuff. Two the other continents. Risky, the one we're on now has enough crazy shit and the others are suppose to be worst. Three we can take a page from Muspelheim and make giant waterborne Nomad cities that are too big for the Kraken to sink. Four we take a close look around our area and see how many inhabitable worlds there are the drop people on one.
All good but the food problem remains.
If it is just the number of people we can expand more citys to hives but the problem is feeding.
Could we start to build larger hydrocultures into our hives to solve this without degrading their security?
@durin How do hydrocultures play into the numbers?
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- Australia
We could increase the size of our military so that 5% of our population is part of the Imperial Guard (or PDF) - the same proportion as the greater Imperium. This'll get us more fighters which will allow us to conquer and hold more land on Avernus while also culling the population a bit.
We should take this option after we've finished processing the ruins in our current lands so that when we uncover even more ruins, there won't be a backlog.
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I would think we would build more farms and hydrocultures into the areas we expand into. In space it would be large space borne farming stations. They grow the food with artificial light and import waste from the other space assets for the dirt then ship out their product. The other continents and planets would have farms built on them as we built city's there. The Nomad cities have the option of fishing kraken and other things.