[] Dorne will recognize that Visenya has been unfairly maligned as a sorceress, manipulator and all round villain, although the Realm will recognize that burning down the Dornish countryside was indeed, a bad vibe.
I strongly doubt we'll be able to renegotiate fixed details now.
Additionally, we should ask that Qooren should visit KL regularly before Nyra's coronation... If only because most of his children will be raised here...
That's still better than Canon, where Rhaenyra spent all her time at Dragonstone and none of Kings Landing. It also gives her time to arrange things for her future child to rule, and overall help the future integration on that side.
This should be renegotiated to be a gradual thing, to give citizens loyal to their current lords over their former ones time to emigrate elsewhere.
We should consider whether we can bring a dornish/realm house/Rhaenyra loyalist marriage into this to bring the revitalized town thoroughly into her supporter base.
And he'll swear fealty as the new Lord of bloodstone to the iron throne and acknowledge Rhaenyra's claim.
Would maybe have been an option if we followed the "Investigate Aenys' death" set of options. If we bring it up to Qoren in a few years after doing that research, it could maybe even remain a possibility (although that stuff has little to do with Dorne's reasonable objections to Visenya, in all honesty. Rhaenys would also be a hard sell, most likely)
One thing we could do is loosen the requirement a bit. Don't limit it to visiting sunspear, you got a dragon. You can visit the various Dornish lords, hob nob with them.
Well in meta terms, given that each Turn is 3 months, I would assume that we would need to visit Sunspear for one turn every year, which honestly doesn't sound that bad.
This is a good point...
We have already agreed on the previous terms which included this... I don't think we can discuss these matter any longer
Even if it's still technically an option, it would definitely be a bad look to wait until now to bring it up.
Please note that if any of the past votes to be included in Stepstone negotiation had previously won, We would have a major win w/ the Velaryon right now and we could tie their loyalty w/ us. As the reason to push to be involved Stepstone negotiation have been entirely to push these outcome but with our name attached as the one that indeed give House Velaryon its just reward of Stepstone war.
How about this as term?
How about this as term?
Agreeable, I would have voted to do this anyway.
This may drag the realm as a whole into a war with the Triarchy. I'd also like to split the tolls 80-20 in the Velaryons favor on the grounds that Dorne doesn't really have a navy.
I'd also like Viserys to have a feast for the diplomatic achievement a lifetime.
Perhaps this might take place over several years for those who don't want to be ruled by Dornish/Reachmen/Stormlords can move to the areas controlled by those they favor.
This may annoy Corlys.
As long as they don't basically build a land based version of the Twins over the Kingsroad this should be good.
I'd like both parties to do this. Ideally they should both take a few unreasonable efforts to eliminate banditry in the Dornish Marches
No comment.
I'd go even further. Rhaenyra would probably have to spend 3 months every year in Dorne anyways.
Given the logistical burdens of moving around as royalty (sure, we have a dragon, but the dragon can carry literally just us and maybe Alicent and fuck-all else), we really want to compress that into as few trips as possible.
@Teen Spirit , is it true that there won't be big festivals celebrating the betrothal? I would think that would be kind of automatic, additional to and in no way exclusionary of Daemon's party.
I don't have a problem with going to Dorne every few turns, but honestly, I think that Qooren should also try to come to visit KL regularly as well before our coronation... If only so that he is not a complete unknown in KL and because most of his children will live here...
Hopefully we can pitch that to him and convince him of it, but trying to make him agree to it contractually could be tough.
We don't exactly need to bring a huge entourage every time we go. Most of the time we will likely just take Alicent along and have either Tarly go ahead by ship or send someone else to be our guard there.
Shouldn't be too hard to convince him of that.
We should probably send Alicent via ship as well, to avoid the spreading of rumors...
Yeah, but if we are formalizing Nyra's visit to Dorne, we should also do the same with Qooren's visits to KL...
I dunno. Remember, if we want to be in a strong position after we inherit the Iron Throne, we need Rhaenyra to start cultivating an entourage of her own and some people she can rely on to have her back.
To be fair, Qoren is going to be a busy guy for the next few years trying to keep Dorne happy with this. But yeah, if I was going to vote to negotiate this, I'd want to add:
The term about "striving to visit" binds nobody to do anything, only to make a good faith effort. It thus has no weight for or against the agreement.
