This do be above our pay grade. If daddy wants our advice, he can ask for it.

[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father
 
[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father, but also suggest a compromise: the lands are restored to the Umbers and the Mountain Clans, who are thereafter obligated to send a proportion of their tax to the Night's Watch, and the crown will consult Lord Stark and send one-time help to aid in developing these lands, so that they can be put to use sooner.

I like the idea, might still create some problems if future cadet Houses of the Umbers are founded in those lands. Unless those are bound by the same treaty too.
 
This do be above our pay grade. If daddy wants our advice, he can ask for it.
This is the answer we are giving right now. If these two have an issue with the idea, I trust them to raise it. In fact, right now is the best time to get feedback, or we'll just be giving advice (if we give advice) without even knowing how the people actually involved in the whole thing feel about this option.
 
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This is the answer we are giving right now. If these two have an issue with the idea, I trust them to raise it.
It's not our pla e to suggest solutions here. We do not have the authority, but we are here as our father's envoy, so it will be taken as an official statement of the crown anyway.

Just. Don't.

We can make suggestions to dad when we are back home.
 
I accepted that one write in since it's effectively combining existing ideas into one idea. Do not try to write in a full paragraph that's the perfect solution to all the Watch's problems, Rhaenyra does not have the skills or knowledge for that and this is not the time. Trying to find the perfect answer in writes is going to lead to less write ins being allowed.
 
[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father, but also suggest a compromise: the lands are restored to the Umbers and the Mountain Clans, who are thereafter obligated to send a proportion of their tax to the Night's Watch, and the crown will consult Lord Stark and send one-time help to aid in developing these lands, so that they can be put to use sooner.
 
[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father

We could have been improving our style this whole time?! Well now that we have our own personal disposable income from the Tourney win...

Shopping montage when?
 
When we talk abt this with Viserys, I think we could steal Ned's & Benjen's Canon plan: create new houses who are cadet branches of the ones whose lands was used to create the New Gift, and have them sworn to pay taxes to the Night's Watch (& defend the Gift obviously)

[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father
 
[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father, but also suggest a compromise: the lands are restored to the Umbers and the Mountain Clans, who are thereafter obligated to send a proportion of their tax to the Night's Watch, and the crown will send one-time help to aid in developing these lands, so that they can be put to use sooner.
 
[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father, but also suggest a compromise: the lands are restored to the Umbers and the Mountain Clans, who are thereafter obligated to send a proportion of their tax to the Night's Watch, and the crown will send one-time help to aid in developing these lands, so that they can be put to use sooner.
 
A thought. Daddy already put our Progress on pause due in part to our willful behavior; perhaps it is not the best idea to test his patience with a write-in that oversteps our authority?
 
[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father

Well time to head home and try and figure out what we are going to do until Spring. Certainly seems like Viserys was just waiting for an excuse to pause the Progress which isn't much of a surprise.
 
Rule 2: Don’t Be Hateful - Use of Slurs
[X]Promise to Take Lord Umber's Ideas to Your Father.
We all know how this ends, and honestly the Queen's decision was retarded. These lands need to be brought back to the fold of the North.
 
[X] Promise to Take Both Proposals to Your Father

Well, this shoukd be an interesting conversation.

Wonder what's gonna happen with steffon, this kinda short circuited our plan to get to know him before placing him in the gold cloaks.
 
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