The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
- Thread starter Teen Spirit
- Start date
- Pronouns
- Reader
Ahh. That's some egg on Otto's face.
- Location
- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
Well, fights to determine Kingsguard appointments is nothing new, be it duels or tourneys. It's usually not against a woman, but otherwise it's pretty standard. So, on some level, that risk was always there for Otto.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Cole won but he was expecting to utterly embrass Rhaenyra so uh, he's not happy.
I see this as an absolute win
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
Get good scrub.
At himself, Rhaenyra or both is the question. Because can see a case for himself than anything.
- Location
- Who knows?
I think he would deflect self anger back onto Rhaenyra
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Sucks to suck Cole. In an appointment that can get as political as the Kingsguard Cole who has the lowest political standing is expected to at least show that he has the skills to pay the bills.
I wonder if us doing so well against Mallister would help our reputation as a warrior a bit. Everything else aside, this is us engaging in a series of pretty public fights in which people from far and wide get to see our skills against credible opponents. It's the sort of event that we'll need happening from to time if we want to get that knighthood and have it be taken seriously.
Last edited:
- Location
- Spain
To be honest, I was expecting that this fight would be more reliant on bonuses rather than straight-up opposed rolls.
Don't get me wrong @Teen Spirit I hate Ser Crispin and I am glad we got rid of him, but credit where credit is due, he was one of the best fighters of the generation, and I kind of assumed that he would win thanks to that unless he rolled a nat 1...
Last edited:
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Cole won despite us rolling a bit better then him, we rolled 15, Cole rolled 14, meaning a 1 point advantage to us, with Cole's higher hidden Prowess stat presumably still giving him the higher score, but us still being able to put up a bit of a fight.
In contrast against Tarly we rolled 14 against Tarly while Tarly rolled 17, meaning a 3 point advantage to Tarly.
I take this to mean that Tarly is good enough that a 4 point advantage on the rolls is enough for him to have a better showing then Cole.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Rhaenyra didn't win any of the fights (though if she had nat20'd the Mallister she would have) but with Cole and the Mallister she did a lot better than anyone expected and that alone for Cole is humilating.
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Some things that I'm expecting from this:
For one, assuming the rolls were also in the order in which we were fighting the three, then us doing so well against Mallister as our very first fight would have lead us to being taken more seriously in subsequent fight, as we showed that we were engaging in more then just a young girl's fancy. Another is that given we kept doing worse in fights the later they were, perhaps it might give us some benefit of the doubt for our loss against Tarly in that it was after we had already fought two people, even if we were making sure to rest and hydrate between bouts.
Anyway tough times ahead for Cole. Cole is very good with a sword, morningstar and lance, but by the standards of Westeros he is incredibly low born, being the son of a commoner steward. Without being included in the kingsguard here, he is very unlikely to reach the sort of political heights he did in canon. Perhaps he might become a famous tourney knight, but he's unlikely to be making any kings here.
Hopefully the result will also reduce the flak a bit from Otto. Mallister and Tarly were probably the two most prominent nobles who were offered here, so ending up with Tarly isn't too poor of an outcome from his viewpoint, while Tarly also showed that he was substantially more skilled. I imagine Otto would have thought least of us if our test resulted in Cole being chosen given his low birth, and its not like tests of prowess in order to determine a kingsguard nomination are unheard of.
Last edited:
- Location
- Spain
So, despite that we will may still need to worry about Ser Incel's sheneigans in the future...
Good to know...
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
For now I don't think we should have that much to worry for given how lowly placed Cole is without his spot in the kingsguard.
Watch out in case we or someone known to be close to us ever ends up competing with Cole in a tourney though. Canonically Cole uses tourney matches as figleaves in order to maim people he has a vendetta against twice.
Last edited:
If we go by the rolls it also showed that Tarly being the most accepting of the spar. So weirdly enough got the best person from this.
As for Criston Cole? Honestly he can still get a important position in the future. Maybe not Kingsguard but maybe like a knight sworn to the Crown or something?
As for Criston Cole? Honestly he can still get a important position in the future. Maybe not Kingsguard but maybe like a knight sworn to the Crown or something?
- Location
- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
There might always be a high-ranking noble around in need of a Bronn.
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Cole still has all of his remarkably good skills, so he's probably still going to be acing the tournament scene. At some point he might get picked up by someone who feels they could use his skills after seeing him in tournies despite his low birth like @Susano suggested.
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
And then we find out the noble that ended up picking him up is named Daemon Targaryen...
If we go at least by the show version Daemon seems to have taken his loss to Cole in stride, and lord Flea Bottom is probably one of the nobles I could see least caring about Cole being the son of a commoner. If anything I'd think it'd be Cole who'd take more issue with the idea given how far Daemon is from the chivalric ideals that Cole likes to think of himself as upholding.
Still, even as Daemon's Bronn Cole should have much less influence on the affairs of the crown then as a kingsguard. For one he won't be getting that seat on the council that he had when he was named lord commander. However there's still something eerily foreboding about the prospect of a Cole - Daemon
Last edited:
- Location
- Spain
Well, if the Dance starts around the same time it did in canon (around 16 years) a few more vacant spots will eventually open in the Kingsguard during that time (There are a few new faces in the show after the timeskip, besides Ser Erryk and Arryk), so he may give it a try next time a spot is opened...
Also, @Teen Spirit, sorry for bothering you, but if Rhaenyra has just been named heiress to the Iron Throne, shouldn´t she be (by the series canon) 14 rather than 16?
View: https://youtu.be/xv8c8XwgjkY?t=71
Last edited:
- Pronouns
- He/Him
It is 112 AC, Rhaenyra was born in 97 AC so...Yeah, I need to fix that.
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Also our guy is a bit old. By the time in which the dance canonically starts he might not even still be alive.
Though one thing to note, apparently according to the wiki one of Rhaenyra's suitors was "the son of lord Tarly". The Tarlies are likely a prominent enough family for us to find a match with their heir. Perhaps our guy might introduce us to him a bit early in which case we can see if he might be somebody we'll like.
Last edited:
- Location
- Spain
TBH unless Rhaenyra falls for someone who literally too good to pass up, my preference is still Harwin "Breakbones" Strong... Not only because all the reasons we have already talked about, but also because Strong and Targaryen genetics go together like peanut butter and jelly (at least seeing how well Jace, Luke, and Joffrey turned out to be), and seeing the tendency of the Targaryen line to produce total fuck ups, that is something quite valuable...
Last edited: