Glorfindel – Great Eagles and the Dwarven Rings of Power.
Udrabax – The Clan and Line of Udrabax, the Greenskins of the Mountains and the Grudges of Udrabax.
King Thain – An Invitation and Go
Writing starting now.
Adhoc vote count started by Warkeymon on Feb 3, 2022 at 2:00 PM, finished with 96 posts and 20 votes.
[X] Write-In: Speak to him of the Great Eagles that circle your goat flocks, and of the one beardling that did good service in guarding a goat from them...if young enough to succumb to the allure of a youngling great eagle himself. Ask Glorfindel what he knows of the Gold Sickness these 'rings of sauron' cause, for if you are to mediate, you must be able to account for such alterations of the mind.
[X] Write-In: Ask him of his clan and lineage's history, of the urk, grobi, and harbgrobi that plague these mountains. Speak of your slaying of the under city that was infested with the grobi so they might know that any such Grudges they bear against them can be struck out.
[X] Write-In: Ask him of his clan and lineage's history, of the urk, grobi, and harbgrobi that plague these mountains. Speak of your slaying of the under city that was infested with the grobi so they might know that any such Grudges they bear against them can be struck out. Ask about the second moon.
The rough halls of Udrabax are a chilly day in your journey. The Longbeards prefer to remain in their guest hall and not wander Udrabax and Elder Bogrur takes only two with him to explore. Not that there's much to explore, you spent but two years as a Miner while a Beardling as is tradition and still your Tunnel Sense could grasp the entirety of the shape of Udrabax.
You go with Glorfindel one day to an invitation to eat with the Lord of Udrabax and you sit there with his family. The Lord is at the head and beside him a brother and then there are sons who spread down the table on one side. You sit on his other side and Glorfindel sits beside you with some of his Companions and some of your Longbeards taking the other seats.
You turn to speak with the Lord of Udrabax, Neath son of Drith of Uri's Folk who had made and dwelt in Nogrod in elder days. After the fall of Nogrod, Uri's Folk came to join with Durin's Folk, and they have since been treated much as one people except by the Lord Sauron who knew them in three parts and knew their Lines. The Line of Uri who were Kings in Nogrod dwell now at Thundercleft on the southern branch of the Ered Mithrin which goes towards the Iron Hills although in joining Durin's Folk they are no longer Kings of their own but Lords.
Neath son of Drith is not of Uri's Line but when you ask of his lineage he tells that he is of the Firebeards and you soon come to understand that the Line of Uri are Firebeards as well. It is not uncommon for the Lords of Noble Clans to have descended from Royal Clans and you nod slowly.
Uri's Folk were known in elder days for master craftsmen and their workings were greater than even the Noldor smiths, except perhaps one. Glorfindel is frowning now, perhaps at the insult to his folk's craftsmanship, but continues to translate as the Lord tells his tale. From Nogrod marched mighty hosts of Dwarves without whom the Noldor could not have defeated the Dark Lord Melkior in many of their battles. The Dark Lord possessed the greatest of all the works of the Noldor which were jewels of unimaginable beauty called the Silmarils.
One of these gems was gained again by the Sindar King of the realm of Doriath who had possessed the finest work of Nogrod, the Nauglamir. This working was a gift given to an ancestor of that King as a sign of his deep friendship with the Line of Uri and when he had the Silmaril he would decide to unite his two finest artifacts. So, he sent for Uri's Folk to work the Silmaril into the Nauglamir and great jewelsmiths and goldsmiths went to his city of Menegroth and did their work there.
When the work was done, and the King offered the smiths payment they demanded only his finest possession: the newly remade Nauglamir. He denied them and sent them out with no payment at all for their rudeness in his Hall and they instead slew him and took the Nauglamir and went back to Nogrod with it.
And so, Uri's Folk and Doriath warred for a time and thereafter Nogrod had not the strength in the War of Wrath to keep it from coming crumbling down and Uri's Folk were scattered eastwards and homeless until Durin's Folk took them into their Halls and set for them places to rule as Lords.
In the end Uri's Folk were sent to the Ered Mithrin and set such halls as Thundercleft where the Lord of Uri's Line dwelt and here Udrabax where Neath son of Drith was Lord. Word came, some two thousand and some years ago from Khazad-Dum that Uri's Folk were to seal their gates except to the King of Durin's Line until the darkness had gone from the world again.
When the gates of Udrabax at last opened they had lost many of their kin, a quarter of the Ered Mithrin lay to the west of Udrabax and yet this was the most westerly hall left in it. Gundabad, once mighty and dear to all of Durin's Folk of each of the three parts, had been lost to dark forces and so too all holds north of the High Pass. The Line of Durin did not move to reclaim what was lost, much as the Line of Uri had never gone back to reclaim Nogrod though its shattered ruins were in part still to be found in the West.
You conversation becomes complex as you try to explain the different Greenskin peoples that the Dawi knew. Drazh'Urk, Urk, Gor'Urk, Drazhgrobi, Wutgrobi, Grobi, Hargrobi. Even Glorfindel was clearly struggling to find the words to describe them.
There are Urki in the fallen holds and they even still press on Udrabax from time to time, but Urki fall into two halves here. The Urki, who are smaller and weaker and twisted, and the Karaz'Urki who are greater and have been forged by the Dark Lords to be strong and unhindered by the power of light.
Grobi they tell are little distinguishable from that first sort of Urki except perhaps by being lesser still and dwelling only in hiding places in the Ered Hithui whereas the Urki of both sorts were kept in great warhosts in the dark lands where they were forged and bred. But there are no sorts of Grobi and the divisions the Dawi use to discuss them are not effective descriptions here.
You tell then that the Hargrobi of Kazad Urbaz, which you had called Kazad Hargrobi when they dwelt there, have been driven out and slain and the High Pass had been made secure. If the Dwarves of Udrabax have Grudges against those Grobi then they can be struck out as the Dawi have struck out their Grudges. While Lord Neath son of Drith is pleased to hear that the Ered Hithui have grown something safer by your actions he does not recognise that the fall of the High Pass was a matter for Uri's Folk to be vengeful for as the Pass was little used by them.
You stroke your beard slowly and consider this Dwarf who would not make grudges against Grobi for the capture of mountain passes.
Your journey through the Ered Mithrin to Silverplunge is long and there is the time along the way to speak with Glorfindel. You tell him the tale of how the Great Eagles had been discovered hunting in the Near Vale of the Anduin, then later they had discovered your Goats and hunted there. Your Goatherds had driven them off a number of times until a Stonebeard had been carried away with his Goat by a Great Eagle. They had spent a night together in the roost of the Great Eagles, the Goat had slept by his feet and a chick of the Great Eagles had also climbed over to them and slept there but the Beardling had bared his pick and stood awake the whole night and kept away the adults of the Great Eagles. Then the pair were returned by the Great Eagles and the Great Eagles hunted Dawi Goats no longer.
Glorfindel is quiet as you tell the tale but nods along at the beats of the story. He had been a Prince of the House of Golden Flowers in Gondolin he tells in the First Age of the Sun but he was eld enough to have been amongst the Noldor who lived in the immortal west with the Valar. There was Manwe the King of the Sky who had shaped from the winds the Great Eagles and their father and king Thorondor.
In the First Age of the Sun, Thorondor and his sons and vassals had come to Gondolin and had fought against the Dark Lord Melkior as dear allies of the Noldor. 'I am told by Lord Elrond, though Lord Elrond had not yet been born to see it himself, that when the Lord of the Dumi came to slay the survivors of Gondolin and I and He slew one another in the final battle of the Gondolodrim it was Thorondor who returned me to the survivors of my house when the Dumi would have defiled my corpse had he not.'
He goes on to explain that the Valar Mandos the Doomsayer had taken Glorfindel from his halls where the dead Noldor went and put him into a new body and sent him back into the mortal east an age later. Had ever Gazul sent back from the Underearth a Dawi to his people when they had the dear need? You thought it had never happened but supposed it would be in Gazul's power to do if he wished perhaps.
When the War of Wrath was done and won, Thorondor and some of his folk flew back into the immortal west and the others led by his eldest son Lord Gwaihir remained in the mortal east and settled high in the Ered Hithui. They served Manwe and were his watchers and agents in the mortal east and worked with the others who served light in Middle-Earth. Lord Elrond spoke, from time to time, with some of the Great Eagles to know what they had seen of the wider world and know where the darkness was growing and where it was waning.
They were a folk, according to Glorfindel, who were worthy of much friendship. If they have turned aside from your Goats after the Beardling proved some worth within himself, in the staying of his hand when it should be stayed and in the baring of arms when it was proper and duteous to do so, then it may be that Manwe has instructed them to leave to the Dawi their Goats. And it may be that in the future they will count you as agents of light and you might make use of their eyes as Lord Elrond did.
And then of the Rings of the Dark Lord Sauron you asked. Glorfindel told a poem then.
Three Rings for Quendi Kings under the Sky,
Seven for the Dwarflords in their Halls of Stone,
Nine for Mortal Umgi doomed to die,
And One for the Dark Lord on his Dark Throne,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
Sauron had worked with Noldor smiths in a disguise and claimed to be able to teach them a way of making powerful rings. They worked in Eregion which now is lost and made sixteen rings. Then Sauron went away to Mordor where he made one alone for himself that would be master over all other rings made in the fashion he taught the smiths of Eregion whilst there the smiths toiled to make three more without his knowledge or guidance.
Sauron had taken his ring and put it on and then gone to seek the sixteen rings of Eregion. He besieged the city of Ost-In-Ethil where the greatest of the living Noldor smiths, Celebrimbor dwelt. He conquered that place and tortured Celebrimbor who had discovered the dark trap of the Sixteen Rings and hidden them. And after two years of torture, Celebrimbor revealed their hidden place and Sauron took them. But though upon wearing the One Sauron had discovered the Three, Celebrimbor died before he revealed their hiding places.
The Three had been hidden and given to some of the leaders of the Quendi. The Lady Galadriel of Laurelindorenan bore Nenya the Ring of Water, the High King Gil-Galad of the Noldor bore Vilya the Ring of Air and Lord Cirdan of the Havens bore Narya the Ring of Fire. Though the last two had gone to new owners and indeed Lord Elrond made use now of Vilya to warden Imladris with its power.
But Sauron had the Sixteen and his One. He gave the Nine to the Umgi who would become his Greatest Servants, the Nazgul. They were made into wraiths who could not die, into mighty warriors and powerful sorcerers and they were chained by their rings to the One and its master Sauron.
Then he gave the Seven to the Dwarves and they did not do as the Nine had. Each of the Lines of the Fathers of the Dwarves was gifted one Ring of Power and each of them was able to resist the commands of Sauron. Nor did they become powerful sorcerers, but the Rings of the Dwarves gave their bearers longer lives and great skill at craft. They have wielded those Rings to amass great wealth although that has drawn the attention of Dragons that live in the frozen north and two Rings in the east have been lost to Dragon's fire and so too were the Great Halls of their Fathers.
All of the Rings of Sauron, the Sixteen, the Three and the One whisper into the minds of those who bear them. They call upon them to become more powerful, ever greater, to fall ever further into their need for these Rings. The Nine were consumed entirely and to remove their Rings is unthinkable in their minds. The Seven, some say, impose a terrible greed upon their bearers for the power of the Dwarves has often been in their great material wealth and though there have been Dwarflords who could take off their Rings they were nearer the beginning. Now the Dwarflords who bear the remaining of the Seven are subject greatly to the whim of the Seven and there are matters in which they can lose their sense of good reason because of it.
Celebrimbor forged the Three alone and the dark traps of Sauron were not so strong in the Three and the bearers take them off often and have even gifted them to friends and kin and rid themselves of the Three entirely. While it is said that the One is so filled with malice of Sauron that it need not even be worn to entrap the heart of the stoutest of souls and surest of minds. The One is a master of trickery as Sauron was himself, though it has been lost in the early days of the Third Age of the Sun.
The Grip of the Ring: 28-??? = ???
After the outburst of Thain son of Nain and King of Durin's Folk you stayed for but a short time and made clear your intent to depart the next day. He went to the gates with the you to see you off and you gave to him your invitation to Karak Drekfut. He might visit you, King to King, and you might discuss many matters of kingship and fellowship between Ankor.
There is still a coldness to King Thain. He accuses you of still trying to call him to suffer your judgement over him and even before you go out the gates he has turned away and gone back into his halls. Thain son of Nain will not soon be a visitor at the Door Onto the Pass.
Well. Fuck you, Thain son of Nain, your ankor is doo doo, and you make me sad. You need to come to our ankor so we can flex and your inferiority can be proven mathematically.
Never thought a Dawi would like an Elgi more than he'd like his fellow Dawi. But those aren't Elgi or Dawi.
Hmm… we know of the Rings and how they can make the bearers foolish. Maybe we should arrange a situation in which we can separate him from his Ring. Or maybe just being in Drekfut under the aegis of the Master Rune of Balance will be able to clear his head.
Thrain, the father of Thorin from the Hobbit founds the only hall of Durin's Folk in the Blue Mountains after the fall of Erebor and the War of the Dwarves and Orcs at Moria. Uri's Folk and Balin's Folk of Nogrod and Belegost were scattered and though most went to Khazad-Dum some wandered homeless and might be found throughout Middle Earth in hills and mountains. Similarly Sindri's Folk and Thrar's Folk in the east have lost their homes and some wander homeless within the West and might be found amongst the hills and mountains but most will have gone to the other eastern Dwarves.
Part of them problem is you can't help those who don't want to be helped, what are we meant to do kidnap him and drag him back to the hold? Even if we can rid him of the active influence somehow he has likely been twisted by his time with it, so we'd also need to ensure he wont go right back to using the ring again.
Those buggers can sit in their silly outpost. We will show them a MIGHTY Karak and make them be foolish beardlings!!! That and break the damnable rings of power if we ever get the chance too. Grudge shall be declared to have Sauron taken down once and for all!
I hope so, it might be useful as far as laying claim to resources and land but it's a little boring to have so little population and settlements on a continent. Even abandoned Dwarf holds and settlements that just were never mentioned by the Tolkien's, for example.
Part of them problem is you can't help those who don't want to be helped, what are we meant to do kidnap him and drag him back to the hold? Even if we can rid him of the active influence somehow he has likely been twisted by his time with it, so we'd also need to ensure he wont go right back to using the ring again.
Which is why we would hand the ring to Runelord Gutfroy for destruction. If a dragon can destroy some of the Seven Rings then I'm sure a Runelord can do the same.
But yeah it is a puzzle. Not one we can solve right now. I hope that he does eventually visit Drekfut and that either the Master Rune of Balance will clear his head enough for us to convince him to surrender the Ring or, if necessary, I'm willing to take it by force and confine him in the Hold until it's effects begin to wear off.
Between Gutfroy and the Elves I'm sure they could purge whatever lingering influence is upon him.
There should, IIRC, be a modest settlement in the Blue Mountains, but it would have been nither large nor of much importance prior to the fall of Eribor to Smaug and the following exodus. The line of king Däin Ironfoot was settled there, as I recall.
Personally I voted for it because I saw benefits, but there are also benefits of him staying away: now we don't feel awkward or cause awkward situations trading with the people of Fram.
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Anyway:
We know the Dunenain are out and about, and it's about fourth years since Arnor's destruction. I'm hopeful the human population is just concentrated more to the west and southwest. I'll have to check my Atlas to see if it has answers.