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Black Cauldron stylized like the early Final Fantasy games makes a little part of me squeal in glee. How do we make this happen.
Taking the Mickey: A Save Disney Quest
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uh. Look at that.
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Yeah, that sounds like Nintendo. Sure, that bomb might melt the plastic, eternally fusing the cartridge to the system, but that Gameboy will still turn on and play Tetris, dammit.
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So, let me be the madman here. As someone who loves him some Kingdom Hearts, I'm pre-commited to any plan that sees us make that a thing.
Right now, a little company named Squaresoft is about to be on the brink, and release one last game - their so-called Final Fantasy.
I suggest that if we get the chance we should buy the heck out of Squaresoft. We let them make their cool RPGs and stuff. Maybe toss them some properties to work with every now and again. Help them localize their games. That sort of thing.
Right now, a little company named Squaresoft is about to be on the brink, and release one last game - their so-called Final Fantasy.
I suggest that if we get the chance we should buy the heck out of Squaresoft. We let them make their cool RPGs and stuff. Maybe toss them some properties to work with every now and again. Help them localize their games. That sort of thing.
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well for Kingdom hearts we need final fantasy to be released and I am not sure they are yet (sethretoth fight is best in kh1)
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We would first need to get the company actually in to the JRPG market, or at least interested in it. We could possibly do that, but we'd need to guide the upcoming video game section of the company carefully for that to actually be a thing that would attract the eyes of the Disney CEO.
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I do still have a gameboy color AND a gameboy advance sp (and a wii). I haven't used them in years, but i honestly believe that if i changed the batteries they'd still work.
My best friend has both a nintendo 64 and a Gamecube too, and they still worked perfectly 2 or 3 years ago.
Nintendium IS a thing, especially for the oldest products.
Though the sp sadly doesn't have the back-lit screen working anymore...
ff released february 1987. It's not that far off.
Still, Kingdom Hearts can't really work with pre-ps2 tech, so it's really too soon to worry about it.
maaaaaybe it could be done with a N64/ps1 if you reaaaaaally wanted to, but it NEEDS to be 3D. It could never work on NES, or even SNES.
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I think the plan is buy them early, let them progress as per IRL and then start meddling when we have workable material.
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squaresoft IS on the brink of Bankruptcy right now... though we'd need an IC reason to buy them now.
Or we could buy them after the big success that was FF 1.
Just in case, does anyone know how much was nintendo worth in 1986 compared to Disney anyway? Because i REALLY would like to buy some of their stock/the whole company.
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It'd be kinda funny if that fell apart by way of Nomura getting Nintendo on-board with his crossover idea due to butterflies
I wish I hadn't lost my GBA charger
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Getting our hands on a gaming company means we don't have to develop one from scratch. Plus Disney has ties with Nintendo already that we can leverage to help get their games out. At worst we can pick them apart, take the best of the lot and leave the worst of them to float off. Also, it'd let them get access to Don Bluth.
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That's an OoC reason. IC, the Great and Powerful Disney has no reason to be concerned about a near-bankrupt failing videogame company in another country.
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Basically, right now it's not even its own company, and until they make Final Fantasy they'll certainly be beneath our notice.
We COULD hire/buy them right after that, though. Have them make some disney-themed rpg games
(EDIT in addition to the ff of course. I would never stop ff from existing!)
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EXCEPT Japanese video games are historically known for being very good. Even the early games in that country almost always get sent over a few years later.
Also a dying game company would be an ideal buy and with intent of refurbishment and would allow the creation of their own games.
EDIT: Main reason for it being ideal is it is cheap and opens up a new market we previously had little access to.
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the thing is, it's not that square was on the brink of failure DESPITE its games being good. Why should we buy THEM instead of literally any other company?
After they make their first masterpiece the situation becomes much different
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Eh, i will admit the specifics of choosing THAT company is OOC Info but it would likely be cheap and unless someone knows ANOTHER decent company not doing well around the time....
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Yeah, if FF still becomes a masterpiece hit in this timeline, then they will be in Disney's notice. As it is, Square (whom hasn't even established their US branch yet) is beneath Disney's notice.
Like, a lot of the arguments being made in favor for why Square would already be in Disney's view has a lot of hindsight to it, not in the view of the actual year itself.
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fact is, IF Disney decided to buy a game company, why should it buy a failing one instead of a small but relatively succesfull one?
I'd happily buy Square AFTER they make Final Fantasy, but before that we have zero reasons for it. Disney wouldn't even KNOW of them! It would be like trying to buy CD Project before they made the witcher! Or Nintendo before they even made their first game&watch!
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Finding exact data on their finical situation before the late 1990s is just about impossible so it is hard to say, but they did just make the equivalent of about $300M in Japan alone and are set to make in excess of another $300M in just 1986. Buying out the company would also not likely work due to how Japanese corporate culture works, the president (and largest single shareholder) up until 2002 was still the founder's great-grandson (in-law).
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When did Pokemon come out (or digimon) since that would prove japan makes good games
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Not for another decade.
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Disney is already vaguely aware Japan makes good games. It's why they are interested in the biggest Japanese name of this year, Nintendo.
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Okay... This is big... So this is the Fortune 500 for 1986. Exxon is the 2nd on that list only behind General Electric. The story now isn't the fact that a media company took on Exxon in the energy sector, the story is now that the largest oil company in America got beaten badly by a company that isn't even IN the Fortune 500 or in their industry. This isn't Goliath losing to David, this Goliath losing to an emaciated gerbil who was trying to eat celery. Exxon is likely in critical danger of losing their status as the leader of the petroleum industry lobby, which potentially allows for Mobil, Texaco or Chevron to take it's place, but if those companies have even the slightest of sense they will look at how Exxon lost to a Mouse and re-evaluate their strategies for lobbying and development. Doubling down on fossil fuels has shown itself to be a losing enterprise, and a very costly one, one that they are unlikely to repeat since it didn't work in even a very friendly political administration. They have too much to lose when the king of their industry was taken down by a bunch of theme park engineers. Furthermore Exxon is not going to have an easy recovery, thanks to Clifton C. Garvin who is the current CEO, and this guy Lawrence Rawl is the President of the company. One is a prominent power broker of the Reagan Administration it seems, and the other moved the company out of New York to Texas and led the company during a crisis in 1989 and reading into that we can tell that he won't deal with any sort of PR issue or crisis well, which probably only combines the minuses that Exxon faced. If you wanted to see a hostile board meeting imagine what Rawl and Garvin faced in the Quest at the end of 1985
. The consequences of this could be... well interesting. All the Petroleum Lobbyists are likely to get different marching orders as doubling down has show not to work, and congressmen could be leery of bringing in new refineries or other fossil fuels since alternative energy has been show to be viable AND popular with the general public. We got Reagan to back down... Reagan, Mr. Popular President in 1985 on solar power and the fact that he decided to keep the solar panels, despite the petroleum industry lobbying shows just how much we've shaken things up, and just how BADLY Exxon is dealing with it... we've potentially butterflied a huge number of oil industry careers, and possibly political careers.
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Okay... This is big... So this is the Fortune 500 for 1986. Exxon is the 2nd on that list only behind General Electric. The story now isn't the fact that a media company took on Exxon in the energy sector, the story is now that the largest oil company in America got beaten badly by a company that isn't even IN the Fortune 500 or in their industry. This isn't Goliath losing to David, this Goliath losing to an emaciated gerbil who was trying to eat celery. Exxon is likely in critical danger of losing their status as the leader of the petroleum industry lobby, which potentially allows for Mobil, Texaco or Chevron to take it's place, but if those companies have even the slightest of sense they will look at how Exxon lost to a Mouse and re-evaluate their strategies for lobbying and development. Doubling down on fossil fuels has shown itself to be a losing enterprise, and a very costly one, one that they are unlikely to repeat since it didn't work in even a very friendly political administration. They have too much to lose when the king of their industry was taken down by a bunch of theme park engineers. Furthermore Exxon is not going to have an easy recovery, thanks to Clifton C. Garvin who is the current CEO, and this guy Lawrence Rawl is the President of the company. One is a prominent power broker of the Reagan Administration it seems, and the other moved the company out of New York to Texas and led the company during a crisis in 1989 and reading into that we can tell that he won't deal with any sort of PR issue or crisis well, which probably only combines the minuses that Exxon faced. If you wanted to see a hostile board meeting imagine what Rawl and Garvin faced in the Quest at the end of 1985
Exxon Board Member Q4 1985 said:
. The consequences of this could be... well interesting. All the Petroleum Lobbyists are likely to get different marching orders as doubling down has show not to work, and congressmen could be leery of bringing in new refineries or other fossil fuels since alternative energy has been show to be viable AND popular with the general public. We got Reagan to back down... Reagan, Mr. Popular President in 1985 on solar power and the fact that he decided to keep the solar panels, despite the petroleum industry lobbying shows just how much we've shaken things up, and just how BADLY Exxon is dealing with it... we've potentially butterflied a huge number of oil industry careers, and possibly political careers.
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and it was all started by a mouse...
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not to mention we might present the idea going to middle east for oil is no longer an option for war or trade